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[onetoeddogbrewery]

When my coworker bartends at the Ukrainian club, I always go visit.. but dread their beer selection. Everything is so malty. Not an ounce of hops in that entire bar. $50 later I have the shakes and have to hit the vodka.

:: I'll agree with the Marzen vote.. much dislike.
:: I'll disagree strongly with the session IPA vote.. love them.

That would be the water from chernobyl they use causing the shakes. Don't be alarmed though View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1459261239.432612.jpg

 

[onetoeddogbrewery]

No. Just marketing. Most session ipas are too bitter with a thin body. Dont find them enjoyable. Rather have a pale ale which has more body and taste better.

Half the reason I started brewing is cuz I wanted to try and make a session ipa. Then I learned how easy it is to make DIPA in the same amount of time. Now it's rare if I brew anything less than 7%. It's funny where life takes you.

 

[Gavin C]

Good greetings this day friendly friends.

Un café

QOTD:
If you could eliminate any single beer style in the world, which would it be an why?

1-A (American light lager)

I never buy it and am never going to brew it.

Kind of a boring choice but that's mine. Should I just feck off now to a random "doesn't BMC suck" thread.

Surprized to see Pilsner (and now Marzen) in the list. CAD, what sort of monster are you?

Response gif pending??

 

[TheCADJockey]

Surprized to see Pilsner in the list. CAD, what sort of monster are you?

Haven't had one that blew me away, unless you sent me one.. I liked all of your beers. I've just never had a commercial Pilsner that made me want to buy another Pilsner. That I know of.

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

Haven't had one that blew me away, unless you sent me one.. I liked all of your beers. I've just never had a commercial Pilsner that made me want to buy another Pilsner. That I know of.

pilsner urquell
Widely regarded as the perfect Pilsner and available commercially.
I think the issue is that neither pilsner nor Marzen are meant to knock your socks off. They are both 'pure' brews that have nothing but the basics to them. And for just the basics, there are some great examples out there that would be in the category of 'this isn't offensive so its great' kind of thing. Its great because it doesn't suck.

 

[Psylocide]

pilsner urquell

Widely regarded as the perfect Pilsner and available commercially.

I think the issue is that neither pilsner nor Marzen are meant to knock your socks off. They are both 'pure' brews that have nothing but the basics to them. And for just the basics, there are some great examples out there that would be in the category of 'this isn't offensive so its great' kind of thing. Its great because it doesn't suck.

Except it's all light struck in the bottles. Would have to try it on tap.

 

[mhurst111]

Morning all

@blizzard - glad you liked the RIS. I agree on the carb level, some bottles are under some over. It was one of the first beers I bottled in over 3 or 4 years, so guess my technique was off

QOTD - was gonna go pumpkin, but Avery makes a couple I drink. thought about smoked, but Bo & Luke was pretty tasty.
I'm going to jump on The Untaggable One's bandwagon and go with American Light Lager. Plenty of other options for post lawn mowing to quench my thirst. I could never drink one of those again and not miss them at all.

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

Except it's all light struck in the bottles. Would have to try it on tap.

lol this, yes, very true.

 

[DisturbdChemist]

Half the reason I started brewing is cuz I wanted to try and make a session ipa. Then I learned how easy it is to make DIPA in the same amount of time. Now it's rare if I brew anything less than 7%. It's funny where life takes you.

I rather make a pilsner or a dark mild if I want a low abv. I think a body helps the hops. I like hope flavor not just straight bitterness with very little flavor (to me). Guess I need to try and make one. Got a few brews I want to knock out before I make one.

 

[TobyG]

Except it's all light struck in the bottles. Would have to try it on tap.

They updated packaging a couple years ago so that the six packs are enclosed completely in cardboard. Ironic thing is that they supposedly only use green bottles in the US because that was what 'high-end' Euro lagers were supposed to look like (i.e. Heineken).

 

[BGBC]

pilsner urquell
Widely regarded as the perfect Pilsner and available commercially.
I think the issue is that neither pilsner nor Marzen are meant to knock your socks off. They are both 'pure' brews that have nothing but the basics to them. And for just the basics, there are some great examples out there that would be in the category of 'this isn't offensive so its great' kind of thing. Its great because it doesn't suck.

There used to be a place in NYC called Hospoda, bohemian beer hall/restaurant. They only had Pilsner Urquell on tap, but you could order it 4 different ways, basically with varying amounts of foam, from all foam to no head. Went there once, ordered a couple of the different versions, food was good. They didn't last long...

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

pilsner urquell
Widely regarded as the perfect Pilsner and available commercially.
I think the issue is that neither pilsner nor Marzen are meant to knock your socks off. They are both 'pure' brews that have nothing but the basics to them. And for just the basics, there are some great examples out there that would be in the category of 'this isn't offensive so its great' kind of thing. Its great because it doesn't suck.

(I can't edit for some reason, so bear with me here)
To compound this thought, think of how hard it would be to cover a brewing mistake if all you could use was water, hops, barley and yeast. They are good because of the lack of flaws. This is really what I was trying to get at, I just couldn't get to that point while on the phone with somebody who has no business being a sales person.

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

There used to be a place in NYC called Hospoda, bohemian beer hall/restaurant. They only had Pilsner Urquell on tap, but you could order it 4 different ways, basically with varying amounts of foam, from all foam to no head. Went there once, ordered a couple of the different versions, food was good. They didn't last long...

That sounds like an interesting place. Do you remember if they had a yeast slurry on the side that you could get? I remember reading about this practice somewhere, but I've never actually had seen it.

 

[BGBC]

That sounds like an interesting place. Do you remember if they had a yeast slurry on the side that you could get? I remember reading about this practice somewhere, but I've never actually had seen it.

Like a drop shot of yeast slurry? No, don't think that was an option.

 

[TheCADJockey]

I rather make a pilsner or a dark mild if I want a low abv. I think a body helps the hops. I like hope flavor not just straight bitterness with very little flavor (to me). Guess I need to try and make one. Got a few brews I want to knock out before I make one.

Well, maybe this is the opposite of my reasoning. Without trying to figure out for myself why I dislike pilsners, I'm going to go with this. I like session IPA's because they are dry, have no body and are just straight bitterness.

 

[Psylocide]

They updated packaging a couple years ago so that the six packs are enclosed completely in cardboard. Ironic thing is that they supposedly only use green bottles in the US because that was what 'high-end' Euro lagers were supposed to look like (i.e. Heineken).

Gotcha... I generally don't peruse that section much, so it's not surprising that I didn't notice it.

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

Like a drop shot of yeast slurry? No, don't think that was an option.

Drop shot, exactly. I've never seen it, but can recall reading about it being a practice at some locals.

 

[BGBC]

That sounds like an interesting place. Do you remember if they had a yeast slurry on the side that you could get? I remember reading about this practice somewhere, but I've never actually had seen it.

And there's actually a video on their website. Can't watch it with sound right now, but it looks like they're showing different styles of pour, including all foam:

http://pilsnerurquell.com/us/how-we-pour

 

[BGBC]

Drop shot, exactly. I've never seen it, but can recall reading about it being a practice at some locals.

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

And there's actually a video on their website. Can't watch it with sound right now, but it looks like they're showing different styles of pour, including all foam:

http://pilsnerurquell.com/us/how-we-pour

Pretty cool video, I'll have to watch it at lunch with sound on my phone.

 

[blizzard]

Gotcha... I generally don't peruse that section much, so it's not surprising that I didn't notice it.

I was buying Coors Light one day and the beer manager asked if I was lost. He'd never seen me in that section before.

 

[Psylocide]

I was buying Coors Light one day and the beer manager asked if I was lost. He'd never seen me in that section before.

-2 cool points for Coors light.

I know you guys get Busch Light over there.

 

[TobyG]

Gotcha... I generally don't peruse that section much, so it's not surprising that I didn't notice it.

The sacrifices I make for judging/style education. It's the only Bohemian pils/'Czech premium pale lager' that you can get practically anywhere. Personally, I can find Koutska 12 at the Avenue occasionally and prefer it.

 

[Qhrumphf]

Staropramen (sp?) not available elsewhere? It's all over here. I prefer Pilsner Urquell, but it's tasty.

 

[Gavin C]

pilsner urquell
Widely regarded as the perfect Pilsner and available commercially.
I think the issue is that neither pilsner nor Marzen are meant to knock your socks off. They are both 'pure' brews that have nothing but the basics to them. And for just the basics, there are some great examples out there that would be in the category of 'this isn't offensive so its great' kind of thing. Its great because it doesn't suck.

I've never tasted PU. I probably should pick some up. I've only made 2 Pilsners. Both German. I should proably look at expanding my horizons.

Haven't had one that blew me away, unless you sent me one.. I liked all of your beers. I've just never had a commercial Pilsner that made me want to buy another Pilsner. That I know of.

I didn't send you a Pils. But did send some malty offerings. Probably because they were just 1 or 2 made them easier to approach. Dunkel, Vienna, APA and Helles I think was what I sent. Not sure.

Except it's all light struck in the bottles. Would have to try it on tap.

Didn't know that. Hopefully @TobyG is right and they have the good packaging round here.

(I can't edit for some reason, so bear with me here)
To compound this thought, think of how hard it would be to cover a brewing mistake if all you could use was water, hops, barley and yeast. They are good because of the lack of flaws. This is really what I was trying to get at, I just couldn't get to that point while on the phone with somebody who has no business being a sales person.

Pilsners like a lot of other lagers I suppose, are very simple. There is a lot of fun to be had in making them. Lots of geeky stuff to explore.

I guess like a really good freshly harvested new potato, (or insert simple fresh food of your choosing), there is no need to gild the lily. Simple deliciousness.


potato

 

[Rhetorik]

Upcoming Sunday is shaping up to be pretty solid. Baptism for my niece (for whom I'm the godfather) in the morning, then Jays season opener in the afternoon, and grabbed tickets to see Bill Burr that night.

 

[blizzard]

-2 cool points for Coors light.



I know you guys get Busch Light over there.

Nah, I like to drink local.

Edit: I've also received the comment "Wow, you have the opposite taste in wine as you do beer." Translation: you have horrible taste in wine. Probably true.

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

I've never tasted PU. I probably should pick some up. I've only made 2 Pilsners. Both German. I should proably look at expanding my horizons.



I didn't send you a Pils. But did send some malty offerings. Probably because they were just 1 or 2 made them easier to approach. Dunkel, Vienna, APA and Helles I think was what I sent. Not sure.



Didn't know that. Hopefully @TobyG is right and they have the good packaging round here.



Pilsners like a lot of other lagers I suppose, are very simple. There is a lot of fun to be had in making them. Lots of geeky stuff to explore.

I guess like a really good freshly harvested new potato, (or insert simple fresh food of your choosing), there is no need to gild the lilly. Simple deliciousness.


potato

Well said

 

[1977Brewer]

Nah, I like to drink local.

Edit: I've also received the comment "Wow, you have the opposite taste in wine as you do beer." Translation: you have horrible taste in wine. Probably true.

Oh I have terrible taste in wine. Moscato and Riesling and that's about it. I had a glass of apparently great Cab Sauv once and almost barfed.

 

[iijakii]

Oh, so you like gross sweet wines. Man, love me a good Cab Sauv, Tempranillo, Malbec. Mmmm