Dynachrome
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From one badger to another All grain isn't that hard. ...and - this turned out pretty good...
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From one badger to another All grain isn't that hard. ...and - this turned out pretty good...
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wookiemofo
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Not yet, really tempted to this weekend. But I am always disappointed with the 2 week bottle check. Might just wait until the 4th!
BrewSpook
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I'll be checking back.. I have 4 bottles of the cow left in the fridge. I am saving them until I hear about how this turned out... then I am going to brew and do a side by side. Since I can't get it out here I have to conserve the best I can.
wookiemofo
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I tried a bottle at 2 weeks, couldn't resist. Tasted pretty good, slight fruit taste. A friend whom was over (BMC drinker) said their initial thought was a bit of a skunk flavor. That just tells me it needs to mellow out a bit. But I was impressed. It's been way to long since I've had a bottle of the real stuff though. But it turns out I have a sixer coming to me this weekend. Will do a side by side in a week or 2.
Boerderij_Kabouter
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OK. So do you guys have any suggested changes to get it closer?
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Dynachrome
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I've been told wheat beer its important to get the right yeast. Don't ferment or sparge too hot. What do you have for containers? Bottles? Don't use too much hops either. WB drinkers like them fairly sublime.
I made a big batch of wort and split it and tried two different yeasts. It's amazing how different the two turned out. The WB-06 has a citrus flavor and so far everyone has liked it.
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I made a big batch of wort and split it and tried two different yeasts. It's amazing how different the two turned out. The WB-06 has a citrus flavor and so far everyone has liked it.
3,800 views on this topic already.
Were's my $25?
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I've been told wheat beer its important to get the right yeast. Don't ferment or sparge too hot. What do you have for containers? Bottles? Don't use too much hops either. WB drinkers like them fairly sublime.
I made a big batch of wort and split it and tried two different yeasts. It's amazing how different the two turned out. The WB-06 has a citrus flavor and so far everyone has liked it.
3,800 views on this topic already.
Were's my $25?
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Apparently you aren't too familiar with spotted cow. It's not a wheat beer.
Dynachrome
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Doh!
Thanks for pointing that out. I drink it once in a while. It's cloudy and yeasty - I just assumed. Please excuse me while I wpe this egg off my face.
Thanks for pointing that out. I drink it once in a while. It's cloudy and yeasty - I just assumed. Please excuse me while I wpe this egg off my face.
wookiemofo
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I don't know enough about brewing to suggest any changes! And my sixer never showed up this weekend so I have no comparison.
I will be heading up to Spooner this coming weekend however, and will be picking up a sixer on the way. I'll be better able to compare the two at that time.
I do seem to recall it having more of a fruit flavor then what I created, but maybe that will be a bit more pronounced once it mellows out.
I will be heading up to Spooner this coming weekend however, and will be picking up a sixer on the way. I'll be better able to compare the two at that time.
I do seem to recall it having more of a fruit flavor then what I created, but maybe that will be a bit more pronounced once it mellows out.
Boerderij_Kabouter
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Interesting. I would really like to know what temperature (actual beer temperature) you fermented at? That yeast is very temperature temperamental, so increasing the fermentation temp affects the fruit ester production.
wookiemofo
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Ambient was 63 degrees for a week, stalled out at 1.022 and moved it up stairs and fermentation resumed for another day or two.
Then cold crashed.
I'll give a better diagnosis after the 4th.
Then cold crashed.
I'll give a better diagnosis after the 4th.
wookiemofo
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Way more fruit flavor in week 3. In fact it's been over 2 years since i've had the real deal, and this reminded me of it.
Heading to spooner tomorrow, might bring one for a side by side.
Heading to spooner tomorrow, might bring one for a side by side.
wookiemofo
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Happy to say I found the clone to be very similar to the real thing! Mine was actually more cloud then the New Glaurus version. Theirs was a lot clearer than I remember.
My clone also tasted a bit thin when compared to theirs... not sure how to describe that. Not as complex... but still really good.
Glad I found this, thanks a ton for providing it. I would love to be looped in on any variations/changes made to this recipe.
My clone also tasted a bit thin when compared to theirs... not sure how to describe that. Not as complex... but still really good.
Glad I found this, thanks a ton for providing it. I would love to be looped in on any variations/changes made to this recipe.
BrewNinja1
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Did you use the recipe from Matt D on the first page?
wookiemofo
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No, Boerderij_Kabouter from page 3
eanmcnulty
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Here is the all-grain Spotted Cow Clone I am going to try next week. I'll let you know how it goes.
Batch Size: 2.5 gallon
3.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 55.25 %
1.00 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM) Grain 18.42 %
0.75 lb Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 13.81 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 9.21 %
0.18 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.31 %
0.53 oz Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.60 %] (60 min) Hops 18.2 IBU
1 Pkgs Kolsch Yeast (Wyeast Labs #2565) Yeast-Ale
Est Original Gravity: 1.047 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.60 %
Bitterness: 18.2 IBU
Est Color: 4.8 SRM Color: Color
Batch Size: 2.5 gallon
3.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 55.25 %
1.00 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM) Grain 18.42 %
0.75 lb Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 13.81 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 9.21 %
0.18 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.31 %
0.53 oz Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.60 %] (60 min) Hops 18.2 IBU
1 Pkgs Kolsch Yeast (Wyeast Labs #2565) Yeast-Ale
Est Original Gravity: 1.047 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.60 %
Bitterness: 18.2 IBU
Est Color: 4.8 SRM Color: Color
eanmcnulty
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I'm brewing this tonight, and I'm questioning not having any finishing hops. Does this look right, or should I add a little of the Saaz?
Batch Size: 2.5 gallon
3.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 55.25 %
1.00 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM) Grain 18.42 %
0.75 lb Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 13.81 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 9.21 %
0.18 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.31 %
0.53 oz Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.60 %] (60 min) Hops 18.2 IBU
1 Pkgs Kolsch Yeast (Wyeast Labs #2565) Yeast-Ale
Est Original Gravity: 1.047 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.60 %
Bitterness: 18.2 IBU
Est Color: 4.8 SRM Color: Color
Batch Size: 2.5 gallon
3.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 55.25 %
1.00 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM) Grain 18.42 %
0.75 lb Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 13.81 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 9.21 %
0.18 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.31 %
0.53 oz Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.60 %] (60 min) Hops 18.2 IBU
1 Pkgs Kolsch Yeast (Wyeast Labs #2565) Yeast-Ale
Est Original Gravity: 1.047 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.60 %
Bitterness: 18.2 IBU
Est Color: 4.8 SRM Color: Color
wookiemofo
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I can't answer that, but I can say I just had another bottle last night. It's improved a lot in the last week... pretty spot on at this point!
eanmcnulty
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I guess I'll leave it alone, then. Thanks!
Boerderij_Kabouter
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Great to hear!
eanmcnulty
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Spotted Cow Clone BREWED!
Estimated Original Gravity: 1.047
Actual Original Gravity 1.047!!!
I am optimistic.
This time of year my basement stairs range in temperature from 66F to 68F. It's like a built in fermentation stairway. Do you think this is a good temp to ferment this beer at?
Estimated Original Gravity: 1.047
Actual Original Gravity 1.047!!!
I am optimistic.
This time of year my basement stairs range in temperature from 66F to 68F. It's like a built in fermentation stairway. Do you think this is a good temp to ferment this beer at?
wookiemofo
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Loving this beer right now!
eanmcnulty
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I'm looking forward to it too. I will bottle it in about a week and a half. I usually leave my ale in the fermenter for three weeks. Then three weeks in the bottle, but I will try one after a week. Hope it turns out.
wookiemofo
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I always try and fight the urge to try a bottle before 3 weeks, as I am always disappointed. Then I get paranoid that my beer isn't going to turn out, but it's always better after 3+ weeks.
With this one, it was interesting to see the fruit character start to show through after the 3rd week. Everything before that was 'skunky'.
With this one, it was interesting to see the fruit character start to show through after the 3rd week. Everything before that was 'skunky'.
eanmcnulty
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I'm bottling mine this weekend, so we have another few weeks before I really taste it. Looking forward to it.
BrewSpook
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I will be brewing this in the next few days. no luck getting the 2565 locally, but I did get WLP029. put on the stirplate this morning, hoping for a big starter to get this finished up in a jiffy.
Anyone make this with 029 before?
Anyone make this with 029 before?
eanmcnulty
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UPDATE!
I am surprised at how close this recipe is. It's really good. My clone does not seem as bright in color as Spotted Cow. Spotted Cow has a slight tinge more orange color. Mine seems a little dull when compared side by side.
The flavor is very close. Please forgive me, I am not very adept at describing what I taste. Spotted Cow has a slight more sour/tart-ness than my clone. I used the Kolsch yeast, so I'm guessing it is the hops. I'm not sure how to adjust this recipe, though. I have seen some recipes with Saaz hops at the finish. I used Mittlefrau, but someone else used Hersbrucker. This also has a creaminess like Spotted Cow.
I'm very happy. This is my first attempt at a clone that was not a kit from AHS. I'll try to get side by side pictures at the next tasting.
Spotted Cow Clone
2.5g Batch (All-Grain - 4g brewpot / 5g cooler)
Style: Cream Ale
Boil Volume: 3.14 gal
Actual Efficiency: 60.53 %
Mash Profile: Medium body (60min @ 154F), No Sparge
Ingredients
3.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 55.25 %
1.00 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM) Grain 18.42 %
0.75 lb Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 13.81 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 9.21 %
0.18 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.31 %
0.53 oz Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.60 %] (60 min) Hops 18.2 IBU
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Kolsch Yeast (Wyeast Labs #2565) Yeast-Ale
OG 1.047 SG
FG 1.011 SG
Color 4.8 SRM
Bitterness 18.2 IBU
ABV 4.69 %
I am surprised at how close this recipe is. It's really good. My clone does not seem as bright in color as Spotted Cow. Spotted Cow has a slight tinge more orange color. Mine seems a little dull when compared side by side.
The flavor is very close. Please forgive me, I am not very adept at describing what I taste. Spotted Cow has a slight more sour/tart-ness than my clone. I used the Kolsch yeast, so I'm guessing it is the hops. I'm not sure how to adjust this recipe, though. I have seen some recipes with Saaz hops at the finish. I used Mittlefrau, but someone else used Hersbrucker. This also has a creaminess like Spotted Cow.
I'm very happy. This is my first attempt at a clone that was not a kit from AHS. I'll try to get side by side pictures at the next tasting.
Spotted Cow Clone
2.5g Batch (All-Grain - 4g brewpot / 5g cooler)
Style: Cream Ale
Boil Volume: 3.14 gal
Actual Efficiency: 60.53 %
Mash Profile: Medium body (60min @ 154F), No Sparge
Ingredients
3.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 55.25 %
1.00 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM) Grain 18.42 %
0.75 lb Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 13.81 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 9.21 %
0.18 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.31 %
0.53 oz Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.60 %] (60 min) Hops 18.2 IBU
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Kolsch Yeast (Wyeast Labs #2565) Yeast-Ale
OG 1.047 SG
FG 1.011 SG
Color 4.8 SRM
Bitterness 18.2 IBU
ABV 4.69 %
eanmcnulty
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After looking at my recipe, I think I will use less Flaked Barley to lessen haze and add a little more Vienna for orange color. I might switch the hops to Hersbrucker and add some Saaz at the finish.
