I emailed or "facebooked" Summit after seeing their new label lineup hoping (praying) they would use less glue or thinner labels because i really enjoy their Saga IPA and have an EFFLOAD of bottles I could be refilling, but I cannot get them off the dang bottle. Tried oxyclean and PBW with no avail...but the brewer that emailed me back said PBW works fine for him...I am having a hard time believing this...anyone else us these bottles with success? Thanks