tko17
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Howdy folks.
I've been absorbing knowledge from these forums for a little over a year, but since each of my questions had already been answered several times, I have never had the need to post.
But I can't find a situation that mirrors my current problem.
I've recently moved from extract into partial mash and small batch all grain brews (using the BIAB technique I found here). My first two all grain batches (a pumpkin ale and a saison) each developed a weird off flavor in between bottling and drinking.
I wasn't worried as much after the pumpkin ale because I made some other mistakes with the mash temperature and flavor additions, but before bottling the saison tasted delightful and now it tastes like nothing.
And that's the issue. I call this an off flavor strictly based on the definition of an off flavor being a flavor that I don't want. It isn't terrible, it isn't super strong. It just tastes like a flavorless beer. A little bready? A little yeasty? The saison had a great flavor and aroma from the wyeast 3724 with just a hint of mint and pepper before bottling, and now those are all gone and the beer just tastes flavorless.
I'm thinking that this is a sanitation issue of some sort. I learned last night that I should be disassembling the spigot for my bottling bucket. But I think this particular infection might be coming from my racking hose. Upon inspection I noticed a little bit of crud on the inside of the last 8 inches of the hose. Not a massive amount, but some spots here and there. I think this probably came from a few batches ago when I left the cane and hose in the primary bucket with the yeast trub for a little too long after I racked into my secondary.
So I'm already planning on replacing the hose, but I really want to make sure that I'm not missing something else. I have a couple of (i think ) pretty special batches going right now and I would be truly pissed if they got infected.
So my questions are these: 1) Has anyone had experience with this sort of non-offensive off flavor that offends by covering up the rest of the flavor in the beer? and 2) I notices that some of my bottles of the saison have a pattern of something yeast colored growing on the inside of the bottles. Haven't noticed this before, but it certainly seems to indicate an infection. Is that reasonable? 3) could the crud inside the racking hose really be the source of infection even though it soaks in a strong starsan solution for at least a half hour before I use it? and lastly 4) should I have any hope for these beers? Or should I dump them and try again?
Thanks for the help!!
I've been absorbing knowledge from these forums for a little over a year, but since each of my questions had already been answered several times, I have never had the need to post.
But I can't find a situation that mirrors my current problem.
I've recently moved from extract into partial mash and small batch all grain brews (using the BIAB technique I found here). My first two all grain batches (a pumpkin ale and a saison) each developed a weird off flavor in between bottling and drinking.
I wasn't worried as much after the pumpkin ale because I made some other mistakes with the mash temperature and flavor additions, but before bottling the saison tasted delightful and now it tastes like nothing.
And that's the issue. I call this an off flavor strictly based on the definition of an off flavor being a flavor that I don't want. It isn't terrible, it isn't super strong. It just tastes like a flavorless beer. A little bready? A little yeasty? The saison had a great flavor and aroma from the wyeast 3724 with just a hint of mint and pepper before bottling, and now those are all gone and the beer just tastes flavorless.
I'm thinking that this is a sanitation issue of some sort. I learned last night that I should be disassembling the spigot for my bottling bucket. But I think this particular infection might be coming from my racking hose. Upon inspection I noticed a little bit of crud on the inside of the last 8 inches of the hose. Not a massive amount, but some spots here and there. I think this probably came from a few batches ago when I left the cane and hose in the primary bucket with the yeast trub for a little too long after I racked into my secondary.
So I'm already planning on replacing the hose, but I really want to make sure that I'm not missing something else. I have a couple of (i think ) pretty special batches going right now and I would be truly pissed if they got infected.
So my questions are these: 1) Has anyone had experience with this sort of non-offensive off flavor that offends by covering up the rest of the flavor in the beer? and 2) I notices that some of my bottles of the saison have a pattern of something yeast colored growing on the inside of the bottles. Haven't noticed this before, but it certainly seems to indicate an infection. Is that reasonable? 3) could the crud inside the racking hose really be the source of infection even though it soaks in a strong starsan solution for at least a half hour before I use it? and lastly 4) should I have any hope for these beers? Or should I dump them and try again?
Thanks for the help!!