heh heh
Just roll with it, this thread has been a dumpster fire from the jump anyway
Cheers!
Just roll with it, this thread has been a dumpster fire from the jump anyway
Cheers!
Are you implying that a clear IPA is for a beginner and that a new england is for a more advanced palate?
If Ninja v Unicorn is a beginner beer, I don't ever want to mature to the grown-up stuff.Its ok if you are not ready for this. We are here to share. Its your turn to share. Maybe you dont feel comfortable sharing. I shared the ninja vs unicorn in solidarity[emoji110]
The guy probably doesn't like beer and didn't start drinking it until they made beer that tastes like juice, my brother is the same way.C'mon man, you're entitled to your opinion, but don't be ridiculoous.
Look at the ingredient list of a good West Coast IPA- it's not cheap by any means and it's certainly not flavorless.
And "meh"? everyone likes different stuff, man, but you can hardly call West Coast IPAs meh.
Are NEIPAs the only style you like?
I enjoy almost all styles of beer tbh, just depends on my mood. (yes, including NEIPA hazy bois)
Applescrap is a troll and always has been. Been a fixture on my ignore list for a good few years. Don't waste your time.
Looks tasty. Just close your eyes and go for it. CheersI found one that was tasty so I thought I'd share... I still think that IPA is a misaligned label for this style. I just have to look the other way I guess...
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How about Butterface Ale?I found one that was tasty so I thought I'd share... I still think that IPA is a misaligned label for this style. I just have to look the other way I guess...
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How about Butterface Ale?
#TastesGoodDrinkIt
I found one that was tasty so I thought I'd share... I still think that IPA is a misaligned label for this style. I just have to look the other way I guess...
you guys are putting "hazy" and "new england" together as the same thing. They are not the same. The New England fad started out (i believe) by Alchemist and the like using Conan yeast and heavy dry hopping combined with not filtering. result was heady topper and the like.
Trillium, treehouse, other half, and all the NJ breweries i see churning out 2 or 3 new NEIPAs per week are doing the whole "heavily oated and wheated" thing along with big late and multiple dry hoppings. many of these are good. some are bad. they are all very similiar.
I dont think anybody could genuinely tell the difference between ANY variety of trillium NE DIPAs.
These are the beers that I'm over. they have the look and mouthfeel of porridge.
I don't want NEIPAs gone (to each their own) i just want a resurgence of bitter, clear, piney, citrusy, vibrant, crisp West Coast IPAs.
I'm going to SanDiego next week for a week and plan to bathe in classic West Coast IPAs and to mail some home.
that would be stupid tho since it implies that whatever is new or currently popular is somehow "better" especially since we're talking flavor preference.I believe that's exactly what he's saying.
buddy, what?Its ok if you are not ready for this. We are here to share. Its your turn to share. Maybe you dont feel comfortable sharing. I shared the ninja vs unicorn in solidarity[emoji110]
that would be stupid tho since it implies that whatever is new or currently popular is somehow "better" especially since we're talking flavor preference.
buddy, what?
i work at a craft beer bar. our bottle share is crazy in that i get to try a ton of amazing New Englands. I'm just over them is all. You assuming that I'm not "ready" or "advanced" enough to appreciate them is just laughable at best.
My wife's boss is like this. He got into craft beer around the time that juicy NEIPAs rose to fame and that is the only thing the man understands as craft beer. we try and expose him to stouts, saisons, sours, real belgian beers etc... no go... "i just want something juicyyyyy"
one time, as a joke, i put like 1/3 OJ in a NEIPA and he liked it. joke didnt land, lol
Bouillabaisse or marinara. Sure argue one is better than the other based on preference or flat like one better based on preference, got it. The ol end all, I prefer that.
Going past that, perhaps the neipa is in actual fact better, in identifiable ways. They are likely more expensive to make, have more complex grain bills, more hops, and more flavor. From a non biased view wouldnt a rational person, perhaps a non beer drinker, conclude one is in actual fact better. Just like you would go to the gumbo over tomato soup. That said sometimes I do like tomato soup a lot!
I think the key here is that @applescrap is "woke". I mean, we're all just locked into these outmoded "style guidelines" that attempt to define beer, when what truly defines a beer is what it itself identifies as.
Who's to say that a 1.050 pale lager with noble hops isn't an Imperial Stout if that beer really inherently identifies as an imperial stout?
Who's to say that a turbid beer with low bitterness can't identify as an "IPA" if it wants to? I'm not going to tell a beer that it has to be what *I* think it is... That would just be bigotry. Let the beer come out as whatever it wants!
"Style" is just a construct, man... It's imposed by the powers that be [TPTB] to keep alternative beerstyles down. What's important is what a beer, in its core, believes itself to be!!!
^LOL!^
"Can I get an AMEN!"
OK, I'll throw a crate on the dumpster fire. Since we've wandered into the kitchen now, a fruit cake is likely more expensive to make, have a more complex ingredient list, more fruit, and more flavor than a plain old rum cake, but I would wager that most rational folks would not choose the fruit cake as better than the rum cake. Complexity/cost is not a linear relationship to quality or preference. You can hand me the best NEIPA ever produced, and I will enjoy it, but I would not consider it better than a west coaster, just different.Bouillabaisse or marinara. Sure argue one is better than the other based on preference or flat like one better based on preference, got it. The ol end all, I prefer that.
Going past that, perhaps the neipa is in actual fact better, in identifiable ways. They are likely more expensive to make, have more complex grain bills, more hops, and more flavor. From a non biased view wouldnt a rational person, perhaps a non beer drinker, conclude one is in actual fact better. Just like you would go to the gumbo over tomato soup. That said sometimes I do like tomato soup a lot!
Bouillabaisse or marinara.
OK, I'll throw a crate on the dumpster fire. Since we've wandered into the kitchen now, a fruit cake is likely more expensive to make, have a more complex ingredient list, more fruit, and more flavor than a plain old rum cake, but I would wager that most rational folks would not choose the fruit cake as better than the rum cake. Complexity/cost is not a linear relationship to quality or preference. You can hand me the best NEIPA ever produced, and I will enjoy it, but I would not consider it better than a west coaster, just different.
MICA.....gotta get one of those hats.
A fish soup or a tomato sauce, is this really how you compare an IPA and a NEIPA?
OK, I'll throw a crate on the dumpster fire. Since we've wandered into the kitchen now, a fruit cake is likely more expensive to make, have a more complex ingredient list, more fruit, and more flavor than a plain old rum cake, but I would wager that most rational folks would not choose the fruit cake as better than the rum cake. Complexity/cost is not a linear relationship to quality or preference. You can hand me the best NEIPA ever produced, and I will enjoy it, but I would not consider it better than a west coaster, just different.
MICA.....gotta get one of those hats.
We know you're prejudiced and biased only to Neubier. We aren't fooled by your Altbier virtue signaling. You beer style ageist...[emoji16]
Don't knock fruitcake until you try it.....Fruitcake, fruitcake! Haha, no one eats fruitcake. But yeah thats a good point perhaps my palate isnt sophisticated enough to enjoy it. I vehemently disagree with you and that thinking was ruining my life until someone here on hbt helped me to the light in a steak discussion. Sure, ill agree that cost and complexity arent directly corollary with preference. The ol i prefer that, got it.
Cost and complexity are positively proportionate with quality in most cases imo. I get there are many cases this might not be true, but things that cost more are generally nicer and of higher quality from speakers to hotel rooms. Just my opinion.
You must realize your argument is silly by now.Fruitcake, fruitcake! Haha, no one eats fruitcake. But yeah thats a good point perhaps my palate isnt sophisticated enough to enjoy it. I vehemently disagree with you and that thinking was ruining my life until someone here on hbt helped me to the light in a steak discussion. Sure, ill agree that cost and complexity arent directly corollary with preference. The ol i prefer that, got it.
Cost and complexity are positively proportionate with quality in most cases imo. I get there are many cases this might not be true, but things that cost more are generally nicer and of higher quality from speakers to hotel rooms. Just my opinion.
The what?I dont mean the rheingoldstat (spelling?)
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