chumprock
Well-Known Member
So.. about that video...
I canceled my BN donation...
So to your first point, tell me where anyone mentions that this is art... or even great art.
Second, tell me which of us said it was creative.
Third tell me why a network that has entire shows devoted to cloning a beer and a brewcaster that famously cloned Pliney the Elder can discriminate original from a respectably intended tribute. Also which of us said it was original. No I don't think you will find that.
Because I believe that you buy the Brewcaster's premise that we somehow represented this as something that it is not.
Perhaps you need an original opinion and not regurgitated talking points.
You'll not hear me disparage the BN, but I know thoughtless rhetoric when I hear it and I don't care which "Rockstar" I need to remind who the real brewers are.
And thanks, I found that very relaxing.
I think this is the sequel. I'm guessing this guy didn't like the original, but at least his protest is more imaginative and fun than BN's rant. It made me laugh, anyways.
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I think we are getting a little bit rabid in regards to the whole BN thing. Last I checked it was not BN as a whole that put down and mocked the video, it was the Sunday Show. BN as a whole is a pretty good source of info and their other shows are pretty good, the Jamil show was and still is a great source of info (minus a handful of shows), Brew Strong is fantastic. We need to take a take a step back, take a deep breath and redirect towards the waste of three hours that is the Sunday Show.
Kudos to Justin for at least attempting to explain what he feels about the situation.
Yea, you're right. The big view is that the flames from this intra-hobby spat might reach outside our groups and find some new audiences. I would like to see the homebrew community grow.Look at it this way about the criticism of the video: people are watching it and talking about it, which is what I'm sure everyone wanted in the first place.
Meh, I was over it pretty much soon after I posted about it. I'll still listen to the Jamil show for information. I have learned from this though. I have learned that i don't need to bother listening to the Sunday Show. I like humour and stuff, but it's just infantile.That is not my disdain talking, that is what my sense of what constitutes good humour speaking to me.
You know, when humor is too infantile for *Laughing Gnome*, of all people.........
I liked it. I think the production value could use some work, but the spirit and intent of the thing is wonderful.
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Jamil Zainasheff
Are you going to stop being a member of the AHA because your beer didn't win a medal at nationals? Because they didn't like something you made?
I received an email reply from Justin, which was nothing but polite and mature - I just wish they had done this on-air, that's all. They are free to criticize whomever they please, but I think doing it in a more constructive fashion would garner a better outlook on this whole situation.
I think we are getting a little bit rabid in regards to the whole BN thing. Last I checked it was not BN as a whole that put down and mocked the video, it was the Sunday Show. BN as a whole is a pretty good source of info and their other shows are pretty good, the Jamil show was and still is a great source of info (minus a handful of shows), Brew Strong is fantastic. We need to take a take a step back, take a deep breath and redirect towards the waste of three hours that is the Sunday Show.
Kudos to Justin for at least attempting to explain what he feels about the situation.
I received an email reply from Justin, which was nothing but polite and mature - I just wish they had done this on-air, that's all. They are free to criticize whomever they please, but I think doing it in a more constructive fashion would garner a better outlook on this whole situation.
I am a homebrewer.
I like listening to the BN.
I like posting on homebrewtalk.
The two disagreed on something.
I don't give a ****, that happens sometimes.
I am now going to brew a beer with corn AND rice in it, because no one will tell me what I can or cannot put into my beer.
...I do have to point out that as far as being 'the only audio source for interviews with the bigwigs,' I think James Spencer would disagree.
Motherf#%$%#$... the attention whore in me loathes the fact that I missed the entire project. Great job guys.
So jamesnw did a hell of a job, and for a bunch of hacks that enjoy great beer and are not videographers by any stretch of the imagination, it is great.
Oh yeah, I forgot that chumprock asked me about my funhouse. I broke/forgot my tripod and my wife was sleeping so I set up a ladder and rested the camera on that. In some shots you can see the ladder too. Confirmed: crappiest shots in the video
But, back on topic, no I would not cancel my AHA membership because they didn't like something I made. As evidenced from scoresheets from Rounds 1 & 2, they offer constructive criticism, something that I was anticipating receiving upon entering the competition. The BN did not do this - they offered their criticism in a way I didn't feel was constructive. If they didn't like it, they could have expressed their views in a more polite and mature manner on-air.
Based on your lackluster analogy, if the AHA would have sent me back scoresheets that were like, "This beer sucked" then, yeah, I would probably cancel my membership, citing this as an example. However, they noted the flaws as well as the high points. Something I can learn from. .
Your homemade t-shirt was awesome!
Your homemade t-shirt was awesome!
Indeed. That shirt was my favorite part of the video.
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