Griffsta
Well-Known Member
I am going to try to brew both of these beers at the same time, using one mash. Not really a true partigyle (because Im not seperating the wort mid sparge). But something similar.
Here are the two recipes I am going make:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f66/nierra-sevada-session-snpa-clone-27673/
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f66/dead-guy-clone-extract-ag-see-note-25902/
(thank you Beirmuncher and Yooperbrew!!!)
I have spent the last 2 days of my free time playing with beersmith to get the right weights and necessary volumes. Essentially, I have made a base-wort recipe that I can covert into each of these two brews. I was able to use the SNPA recipe for the entire base wort. That meant, that for the Dead Guy Clone, I replaced the Cara-Munich with Cara-Pils, and the crystal 40 L to crystal 60 L. I want the added head retention with the cara-pils, and Im hoping that the change from the crystal 40 to 60 wont tweek the flavor too much.
Here are the recipes.
For my base wort, I have used the SNPA grain bill (I added an extra pount of 2-row because I will collect an extra gallon, as I boil a lot off):
16 lbs of 2 row (US)
1 lb of carapils
1 lb of crystal 60 L
I will mash this at about 155 for an hour, flysparge, and collect about 13 gallons. This should give me a gravity (after boil) of about 1.046 - perfect for the SNPA). I will divide this into boil kettles, each with 6.5 gallons (boil off about a gallon each).
Then, I will make the SNPA clone as is (without steeping any extra grains, since the base wort boil is essentially an 11 gallon batch of the SNPA. Just add hops, per the schedule, and its ready to go.
The Dead Guy Clone will be made as follows:
Use half the base wort as described above, then steep 3 lbs of 2 row (US) and 1 lb of Munich for 30 min before the boil.
Then boil and add hops, etc, as normal.
By steeping the 2 row and munich, I get the higher gravity (1.066) and same ingredients (except for trading out the cara-munich for cara-pils, and switching from crystal 40L to 60L) as the Original Dead Guy recipe.
A couple quesitons for you pro's:
In the Dead Guy clone, will the excange of Cara-Munich with Cara-Pils, and the crystal 40 L to crystal 60 L make that much of a difference? I can always use only pale 2-row for the base wort, then steep grains in both boil kettles to get the exact ingredients. The fact is, I want the SNPA to be as close as possible. I dont mind if the Dead Guy clone is slightly different, as long as it tastes similar, and GOOD!
Is there anything that I am missing about all this? I get the same amount of sugar out of steeping as I do mashing, right?
So, please let me know what you guys think. Any comments are greatly appreciated!
Here are the two recipes I am going make:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f66/nierra-sevada-session-snpa-clone-27673/
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f66/dead-guy-clone-extract-ag-see-note-25902/
(thank you Beirmuncher and Yooperbrew!!!)
I have spent the last 2 days of my free time playing with beersmith to get the right weights and necessary volumes. Essentially, I have made a base-wort recipe that I can covert into each of these two brews. I was able to use the SNPA recipe for the entire base wort. That meant, that for the Dead Guy Clone, I replaced the Cara-Munich with Cara-Pils, and the crystal 40 L to crystal 60 L. I want the added head retention with the cara-pils, and Im hoping that the change from the crystal 40 to 60 wont tweek the flavor too much.
Here are the recipes.
For my base wort, I have used the SNPA grain bill (I added an extra pount of 2-row because I will collect an extra gallon, as I boil a lot off):
16 lbs of 2 row (US)
1 lb of carapils
1 lb of crystal 60 L
I will mash this at about 155 for an hour, flysparge, and collect about 13 gallons. This should give me a gravity (after boil) of about 1.046 - perfect for the SNPA). I will divide this into boil kettles, each with 6.5 gallons (boil off about a gallon each).
Then, I will make the SNPA clone as is (without steeping any extra grains, since the base wort boil is essentially an 11 gallon batch of the SNPA. Just add hops, per the schedule, and its ready to go.
The Dead Guy Clone will be made as follows:
Use half the base wort as described above, then steep 3 lbs of 2 row (US) and 1 lb of Munich for 30 min before the boil.
Then boil and add hops, etc, as normal.
By steeping the 2 row and munich, I get the higher gravity (1.066) and same ingredients (except for trading out the cara-munich for cara-pils, and switching from crystal 40L to 60L) as the Original Dead Guy recipe.
A couple quesitons for you pro's:
In the Dead Guy clone, will the excange of Cara-Munich with Cara-Pils, and the crystal 40 L to crystal 60 L make that much of a difference? I can always use only pale 2-row for the base wort, then steep grains in both boil kettles to get the exact ingredients. The fact is, I want the SNPA to be as close as possible. I dont mind if the Dead Guy clone is slightly different, as long as it tastes similar, and GOOD!
Is there anything that I am missing about all this? I get the same amount of sugar out of steeping as I do mashing, right?
So, please let me know what you guys think. Any comments are greatly appreciated!