Windows 11

[sibelman]

fresh install of 11

Nothing like fresh. Now retired, and happily running Linux. But I do miss the freshness benefit of the (Win10) desktop virtualization at work.

 

[day_trippr]

I spent the day upgrading my year-old pc and then using the cast-off parts in a new build for my wife. I replaced my 12900KS with an 14900KS, and replaced the three 2TB M.2 NVME SSDs with faster drives. I had been holding out on this until the reviews of the latest Intel firmware and Win11 updates seem to have resolved - or at least mitigated - the Chernobyl Effect that was killing these flagship processors.

Once I had my system back up and running (plenty of drama including flashing the updated firmware, etc) I put the 12th gen CPU and the SSDs in her machine to go along with plenty of goodies (64GB of DDR5-6000 memory, an even better 1000 watt power supply and a better AIO than mine) all in a handsome LianLi fishbowl chassis loaded with fans and a 360mm AIO. She gets a wicked fast machine, and I get an even wickeder faster machine. Win win!

She'll be running on the graphics card from her current machine - or the Intel graphics on the 12900KS - until she inherits my RTX 4090. Shouldn't be a problem for awhile. I'll be installing W11P and the myriad of apps she uses for the next many days I suspect. I can knock out a new build in a handful of hours but installing the OS and updating all the drivers and then installing all the software - that can take a week

Cheers! (Worth it!)

 

[balrog]

I spent the day upgrading my year-old pc and then using the cast-off parts in a new build for my wife. I replaced my 12900KS with an 14900KS, and replaced the three 2TB M.2 NVME SSDs with faster drives. I had been holding out on this until the reviews of the latest Intel firmware and Win11 updates seem to have resolved - or at least mitigated - the Chernobyl Effect that was killing these flagship processors.

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Once I had my system back up and running (plenty of drama including flashing the updated firmware, etc) I put the 12th gen CPU and the SSDs in her machine to go along with plenty of goodies (64GB of DDR5-6000 memory, an even better 1000 watt power supply and a better AIO than mine) all in a handsome LianLi fishbowl chassis loaded with fans and a 360mm AIO. She gets a wicked fast machine, and I get an even wickeder faster machine. Win win!

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She'll be running on the graphics card from her current machine - or the Intel graphics on the 12900KS - until she inherits my RTX 4090. Shouldn't be a problem for awhile. I'll be installing W11P and the myriad of apps she uses for the next many days I suspect. I can knock out a new build in a handful of hours but installing the OS and updating all the drivers and then installing all the software - that can take a week

Cheers! (Worth it!)

You need more fans.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

by the way on the latest update page, you can opt out of auto update now

 

[day_trippr]

Something different than the existing up to 5 week delay setting?

Cheers!

 

[balrog]

Ok, @day_trippr , I thought that **I** was an OCD neat freak, but this is next level.

 

[day_trippr]

It is my curse in life to be OC AF, and Corsair provides these plastic wire combs with their power supplies, so

Cheers!

 

[Kent88]

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Something different than the existing up to 5 week delay setting?

Cheers!

although
Because Microsoft is committed to keeping Windows devices around the world safe and secure, there are regular security updates. Whether you have the toggle On or Off , you'll still get these recommended security updates installed as usual on a regular basis.

 

[day_trippr]

True enough, but those are largely antivirus engine and signature updates that historically don't cause issues.
It's pretty much everything else we need to worry that they get close enough not to actually screw with us

Of course one can bring the delivery of everything to a quick stop by stopping and disabling the wuauserv service...

Cheers!

 

[Hoochin'Fool]

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LOL @balrog
So does that thing sound like a hurricane or a tornado or a swarm of 10,000,000 mosquitos?

 

[day_trippr]

It is remarkably quiet, actually, until something works it hard. One can move a lot of air with few fans spinning fast or many spinning slow

I have a years experience with the Corsair magnetic bearing fans I used on her system because I used them on mine first. Not including the three on my 4090, her system has one more fan than mine because my 5000T case can fit a single 140mm exhaust fan in the back where hers uses a pair of 120mm fans. Like hers, my system is very quiet when I'm not gaming, and when I am gaming hard and the 11+3 fans are keeping up with the heat, I'm wearing over-the-ear 7.1 headphones and don't care Even then it's more "whoosh" than buzz...

btw, the neatness is definitely enabled by the Corsair iCUE LINK platform because fan-to-fan is snap-together, an assembled pack only needs a single power and control wire, and you can daisy-chain elements together to eventually connect to a power and control channel on a hub. It really does cut the clutter down a lot...

Cheers!

 

[day_trippr]

Idle time between snow-blowing and watching the Superb Owl, decided to do some thermal stability testing on my PC that I upgraded from a 12900KS to 14900KS as part of building the new machine for my wife. Pulled up Cinebench and let it run for a few minutes...and with the CPU package temperature hovering around just 65°C with the AIO working well I am not unhappy with the performance results of my $649 CPU vs a $1200 to $1700 Threadripper

Cheers!

 

[Snuffy]

I have a years experience with the Corsair magnetic bearing fans I used on her system because I used them on mine first. Not including the three on my 4090, her system has one more fan than mine because my 5000T case can fit a single 140mm exhaust fan in the back where hers uses a pair of 120mm fans. Like hers, my system is very quiet when I'm not gaming, and when I am gaming hard and the 11+3 fans are keeping up with the heat, I'm wearing over-the-ear 7.1 headphones and don't care Even then it's more "whoosh" than buzz...

I could not do that many fans. The dust bunnies would land in my beer,

 

[balrog]

Well the hits just keep coming don't they @day_trippr ?

https://www.xda-developers.com/windows-11-update-breaks-file-explorer/

 

[day_trippr]

I saw that one yesterday. Best as I can tell neither of our deskside systems running 24H2+ are afflicted, and both took KB5051987 last Tuesday. In fact right now everything seems surprisingly stable - aside from that audio DAC bug that muddies my headphones every once in awhile jumping into War Thunder. Fortunately exiting and re-launching "fixes" it, so nbd. I noted that update should also have fixed the Auto HDR thing as well. I should give that a try.

fwiw, I've been playing around with VMs and gave VirtualBox a try. I was appalled at how many under-hood security functions I had to disable in Win11 to get it to work - some real hard core stuff. Even after getting what I wanted to do to work, the whole thing felt so sketchy I immediately reverted to the pre-installed state (I love having a hot boot drive clone available!) and gave the notion more thought.

Last night I decided to give Hyper-V a try. It was a piece of cake! Did not have to disable or modify a single thing to turn it on and load up a VM with WindowsXP Pro SP3 running in it. I can't even imagine at this point why anyone would go through the pain and lowered security to use VirtualBox on W11...

Cheers!

 

[PCABrewing]

The XP SP3 runs but do the games run under it?

I lost the ability to run a couple of my favorites when Win 10 came out. Last thing I tried was VMWare.
I was able to run XP but the graphics support (lack of) blocked me from running AOE III and some others. The games previously ran fine under XP SP3 native. I gave up.
I did try Steam but they kept reducing features so much it wasn't worth it.
Sounds like you are running some even heavier games.

 

[day_trippr]

In this case, I have a Bentley Publishing Audi S4 service manual in digital form I'm trying to run on Windows 11 Pro when it wants XP and no "compatibility mode" setting works. I have it (still) running on the laptop I installed it on back in 2000 (yes, really) but that old chunk won't run forever so I'd like to see if I can get it running in an XP VM.

Just to make it more challenging I no longer have a viable installation CD, but I do have an image file of it on that laptop that would be accessible via a virtual CD application - but I uninstalled that app forever ago. Fortunately I found an installation kit for that app and have to install that to see if I can access the image with it to burn a new disk, but it appears to need to be licensed...and on and on...

Lunch first!

Cheers!

 

[PCABrewing]

In this case, I have a Bentley Publishing Audi S4 service manual in digital form I'm trying to run on Windows 11 Pro when it wants XP and no "compatibility mode" setting works. I have it (still) running on the laptop I installed it on back in 2000 (yes, really) but that old chunk won't run forever so I'd like to see if I can get it running in an XP VM.

Just to make it more challenging I no longer have a viable installation CD, but I do have an image file of it on that laptop that would be accessible via a virtual CD application - but I uninstalled that app forever ago. Fortunately I found an installation kit for that app and have to install that to see if I can access the image with it to burn a new disk, but it appears to need to be licensed...and on and on...

Lunch first!

Cheers!

I had the VW A3 manuals from Bentley back in 2003.
They (Bentley) were not helpful in resolving issues.
I wish there had been a hard-copy version of the docs as I found the "e" version lacking depth.
At least with hard-copy you can annotate as you go.
I was a dealer mechanic back in my youth and the manuals we had from the factory were very detailed. And there was no such thing as "e".
Of course back then we actually repaired components, not swap-out for a new unit.

 

[day_trippr]

I had some luck with the folks at Bentley 20-something years ago as I could make a physical appearance easy enough at their offices in Cambridge - just down the street from the Modern Homebrew Emporium (before they went out). They discourage that now

But I'm closing in! I was able to find and install the program needed to load that image file on my super old laptop (which I noticed has lost one of its two cooling fans). Then I burned a CD with it and successfully installed the manual in a WinXP VM on my workstation and "register" it with my original key. I just need to get the VM's networking put together correctly to get the manual working, as it uses loopback calls to get from the reader client to the manual server (arrgh!)

Getting this far has been a trial and I need a beer or three. I'll dive into VM networking tomorrow...

Cheers!

 

[balrog]

has been a trial

The things we do, that we call "fun hobbies" <that make significant others strain their eyeroll muscles>.

 

[balrog]

Another one.
https://www.xda-developers.com/windows-11-24h2-bug-turns-simple-file-move-into-total-nightmare/

"moving files from ZIP archives can freeze File Manager"

I mean, I almost always use 7-zip anyway, but hey, love all these new features.

 

[estricklin]

In this case, I have a Bentley Publishing Audi S4 service manual in digital form I'm trying to run on Windows 11 Pro when it wants XP and no "compatibility mode" setting works. I have it (still) running on the laptop I installed it on back in 2000 (yes, really) but that old chunk won't run forever so I'd like to see if I can get it running in an XP VM.

Just to make it more challenging I no longer have a viable installation CD, but I do have an image file of it on that laptop that would be accessible via a virtual CD application - but I uninstalled that app forever ago. Fortunately I found an installation kit for that app and have to install that to see if I can access the image with it to burn a new disk, but it appears to need to be licensed...and on and on...

Lunch first!

Cheers!

I used to be an auto mechanic in a formal life, I highly suggest using a service like "All Data". These services used to be out of reach for the average shade tree mechanic, but now they're available to everyone, and the prices are really cheap. When I worked at a GM dealer I would use factory manuals some, (especially for automatics transmissions) but All Data (or at the time Mitchell On Demand) were used more. All Data even shows TSBs now.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Another one.
https://www.xda-developers.com/windows-11-24h2-bug-turns-simple-file-move-into-total-nightmare/

"moving files from ZIP archives can freeze File Manager"

I mean, I almost always use 7-zip anyway, but hey, love all these new features.

I had the same issue, I was reminded that windows 11 is constantly scanning for a virus even inside zip files now and saving cached links but I still think this is a bug

 

[shoengine]

I used to be an auto mechanic in a formal life, I highly suggest using a service like "All Data". These services used to be out of reach for the average shade tree mechanic, but now they're available to everyone, and the prices are really cheap. When I worked at a GM dealer I would use factory manuals some, (especially for automatics transmissions) but All Data (or at the time Mitchell On Demand) were used more. All Data even shows TSBs now.

I used to use Alldatadiy but their prices went through the roof, and it is a yearly subscription. I have a relatively old car so I found some paper manuals on ebay for the cost of 1.5 years of alldata.

 

[day_trippr]

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to spend money when I have the manual on at least one working machine

I ran into the W11 24H2 File Explorer problem today, dragging an attached pdf file from an email into a folder. It resulted in the open Explorer going wonky with an hour glass cursor whenever the mouse hovered on the left pane side of Explorer, and folder trees would not expand, nor would clicking on the Network icon in the left pane result in the network nodes being displayed in the right side as usual. Pretty much borked.

Killing the Explorer window and launching a fresh one "fixed" the problem.

Cheers!

 

[balrog]

That's why I call computers a hobby. Always tinkering. Always trying different things. Maybe we should figure out how to get @LBussy 's BrewPi Remix to keep Windows 11 working?

 

[LBussy]

What fresh hell did I get conjured into?

 

[shoengine]

IT. Run.

 

[Jonakr]

IT. Run.

“Hey, can you just take a look…”

 

[LBussy]

“It’s probably really simple …”

 

[balrog]

"I can't find the interface button where it mows the yard..."

[Sorry to derail. I'll be good now.]

<snicker>

 

[hout17]

So with the end of Win 10 support nearing and my laptop not being Win 11 ready lol I finally completely wiped my laptop to get windows off of it.

I used this laptop for my recipes using Beersmith. What's great though is Beersmith supports Linux and runs like a champ on Mint/Debian so I did a full backup and we are good to go.

I have a beast desktop with Win 11 but enjoy using the laptop for my beer adventures.