Will this cheap 3500 watt induction burner work?

[brettwasbtd]

My research seemed to indicate that more than 1800 watts is required for an all-grain boil. I have a wide 10-gallon pot that could have straddled two 1800 watt burners plugged into separate circuits, but pot's manufacturer (Johnson Rose) said one 3500 watt burner is the way to go. I couldn't be more pleased with this model, and the 220V was not an issue for me - I just wired a commercial receptacle to a dryer cord/plug and unplug my dryer when brewing.

This sounds about right. I think i read somewhere someone was able to bring 6.5 gallons to a very light boil and it took a while with the 1800 watt setup. The 3500watt can obviously boil over 10 gallons! What pot do you have? (link maybe)

 

[tbelczak]

This sounds about right. I think i read somewhere someone was able to bring 6.5 gallons to a very light boil and it took a while with the 1800 watt setup. The 3500watt can obviously boil over 10 gallons! What pot do you have? (link maybe)

I have this pot: http://johnsonrose.com/product.php?item=47400 and it works great. I think you're better off finding one that's closer to a 2:1 height:diameter ratio, though. I just bought this one because I was able to get a great price on it through a friend.

 

[carlk47]

Bumping this thread because I am researching this induction burner and had a question on which type of kettle to pair with it..

For using an induction burner, is it recommended to use a thinner base pot like a Bayou Classic, or is it better to use something like a MegaPot 1.2 that has a tri-ply bottom with aluminum sandwiched in it to evenly distribute the heat?

I am looking to build a simple countertop BIAB system and this looks like a very nice combo!

 

[tbelczak]

Bumping this thread because I am researching this induction burner and had a question on which type of kettle to pair with it..

For using an induction burner, is it recommended to use a thinner base pot like a Bayou Classic, or is it better to use something like a MegaPot 1.2 that has a tri-ply bottom with aluminum sandwiched in it to evenly distribute the heat?

I am looking to build a simple countertop BIAB system and this looks like a very nice combo!

I would definitely say sandwiched. Even then, you can still physically see the rings of heat in the bottom of your pot, but I think the aluminum does dissipate it as well. Temperature readings across the diameter of the pot vary, but the good rolling boil evens things out. I have never had any scorching with my 3-ply sandwiched pot from Johnson Rose.

 

[BigFloppy]

I use http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MVN1M6/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20 paired with a bayou classic with no issues at all ad I can get a good rolling boil on 6.5 gallons without any insulation at all

 

[carlk47]

Do you need GFCI protection when plugging in an induction burner or can I just wire and extension cord from my dryer outlet to this?

 

[brettwasbtd]

Do you need GFCI protection when plugging in an induction burner or can I just wire and extension cord from my dryer outlet to this?

Nope, don't need gfci. Should be able to just wire three prongs to a 6-20 receptacle

 

[BigFloppy]

Do you need GFCI protection when plugging in an induction burner or can I just wire and extension cord from my dryer outlet to this?

I plug mine into a regular wall socket

 

[ercousin]

If you are going to be building a cable to plug the 6-20 into your 14-30 dryer outlet, I would be sure to build a 20A breaker into the cable too. That way it's safe. Otherwise you could fry your cable/cooktop if an overcurrent occurs.

Also be sure to check if the Megapot is induction ready. The bayou classic's work really well and have a good aspect ratio compared to the wider pots. I've been brewing twice a month for almost 10 months on my setup. I insulated the pot with reflectix and do BIAB.

 

[JustLooking]

If you are going to be building a cable to plug the 6-20 into your 14-30 dryer outlet, I would be sure to build a 20A breaker into the cable too. That way it's safe. Otherwise you could fry your cable/cooktop if an overcurrent occurs.

Panel breakers are there to protect your house wiring, not the appliance plugged into an outlet.

 

[carlk47]

http://www.webstaurantstore.com/ava...r-208-240v-3500-watt/177IC3500 208*240.html

plus..

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TVYHXY/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

Seem like a great combo. Think I know what's going to be on my Xmas list this year!

 

[carlk47]

If you are going to be building a cable to plug the 6-20 into your 14-30 dryer outlet, I would be sure to build a 20A breaker into the cable too. That way it's safe. Otherwise you could fry your cable/cooktop if an overcurrent occurs. Also be sure to check if the Megapot is induction ready. The bayou classic's work really well and have a good aspect ratio compared to the wider pots. I've been brewing twice a month for almost 10 months on my setup. I insulated the pot with reflectix and do BIAB.

ercousin, do you use a basket or false bottom when you BIAB with that pot or just put the bag straight in?

 

[rdavidw]

http://www.webstaurantstore.com/ava...r-208-240v-3500-watt/177IC3500 208*240.html

plus..

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TVYHXY/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

Seem like a great combo. Think I know what's going to be on my Xmas list this year!

This is exactly the setup I have and I love it. I added a 20amp plug in my basement and insulated my kettle and lid with reflectix. It now gets up to temp way faster then on my 12,000 btu Power Burner on my gas stove. When I brewed in the kitchen it would steam up the whole house and it was a pain dragging everything up from the basement and back down again. I am very happy with it.

 

[ercousin]

ercousin, do you use a basket or false bottom when you BIAB with that pot or just put the bag straight in?

I have one of these bags: http://www.biab-brewing.com/

I can velcro it into position a few inches above the bottom of the pot.

 

[armstrong091]

Are all Bayou Classic pots induction compatible?

Looking around on the web I find that the pots are reported as about 100 different grades of stainless, most of which are non magnetic.

Common sense tells me that all the pots of the same name are probably the same steel, though.

Anybody had a Bayou classic that didn't work?

cheers.

 

[carlk47]

Hey guys, has anyone who owns the IC3500 been concerned with the weight capacity of this burner? I'm hoping to get one for Christmas and am looking at a 10 gal megapot 1.2 as well. Doing BIAB with 8 gal of strike water plus grains and kettle would run upwards of 100 lbs on this burner.

Anyone see any issues with this?

 

[carlk47]

Are all Bayou Classic pots induction compatible? Looking around on the web I find that the pots are reported as about 100 different grades of stainless, most of which are non magnetic. Common sense tells me that all the pots of the same name are probably the same steel, though. Anybody had a Bayou classic that didn't work? cheers.

So far from my research is that all currently made bayou kettles seem to be induction ready. Don't quote me on that though

 

[tbelczak]

Hey guys, has anyone who owns the IC3500 been concerned with the weight capacity of this burner? I'm hoping to get one for Christmas and am looking at a 10 gal megapot 1.2 as well. Doing BIAB with 8 gal of strike water plus grains and kettle would run upwards of 100 lbs on this burner.

Anyone see any issues with this?

I would not be concerned - the cooktop may not weight much, but it's solid and very durable. I have a heavy 10 gallon stainless brew pot and start my boil with 7.5 to 8 gallons in it. It could easily take another 15 pounds of grain. Tell you what - I'm brewing this weekend and I'll throw my pot on there with 100 pounds of barbell weights just to make sure.

Edit: just added photo of my 12.2 pound brew pot with 115 pounds of weights in it - total of 127 pounds. I'd be comfortable pushing even 200 pounds with it.

 

[carlk47]

I would not be concerned - the cooktop may not weight much, but it's solid and very durable. I have a heavy 10 gallon stainless brew pot and start my boil with 7.5 to 8 gallons in it. It could easily take another 15 pounds of grain. Tell you what - I'm brewing this weekend and I'll throw my pot on there with 100 pounds of barbell weights just to make sure.

Awesome man that would be great!

 

[carlk47]

I would not be concerned - the cooktop may not weight much, but it's solid and very durable. I have a heavy 10 gallon stainless brew pot and start my boil with 7.5 to 8 gallons in it. It could easily take another 15 pounds of grain. Tell you what - I'm brewing this weekend and I'll throw my pot on there with 100 pounds of barbell weights just to make sure. Edit: just added photo of my 12.2 pound brew pot with 115 pounds of weights in it - total of 127 pounds. I'd be comfortable pushing even 200 pounds with it.

Excellent! Thanks for doing that.. Puts my mind at ease about the weight capacity

 

[borealis]

Can I make a plug to used this with my electric range outlet or is that outlet too much amperage?

 

[carlk47]

Wired this up on Sunday.. Just waiting for my kettle to arrive!

 

[dyqik]

Can I make a plug to used this with my electric range outlet or is that outlet too much amperage?

The induction hot plate will only draw as much current as it needs, so there's no problem there.

You can always attach appliances that use less current than the outlet can provide (otherwise a table lamp in a 15A socket would be trouble...), but you should never attach appliances that can draw more current than the outlet can provide.

 

[brettwasbtd]

Wired this up on Sunday.. Just waiting for my kettle to arrive!

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Didn't you get a megapot for Xmas too? Thought I remembered you posting that somewhere. Why not try that?

 

[carlk47]

Didn't you get a megapot for Xmas too? Thought I remembered you posting that somewhere. Why not try that?

Yep sure did! However it had a few dings/dents in it that I was not too happy about, so I am exchanging it for a new one.

Good memory on your part!

 

[stevew]

The induction hot plate will only draw as much current as it needs, so there's no problem there.

You can always attach appliances that use less current than the outlet can provide (otherwise a table lamp in a 15A socket would be trouble...), but you should never attach appliances that can draw more current than the outlet can provide.

NO! An appliance should never be plugged into an outlet with a higher rating than the appliance. A table lamp may only use half an amp, but the lamps wiring is rated for 15 amps. Plugging the lamp (or your hotplate) into a 50 amp outlet could cause the wiring to catch fire before the fuse or breaker blows if there is some kind of malfunction.

 

[AnOldUR]

A table lamp may only use half an amp, but the lamps wiring is rated for 15 amps.

So, you're saying that all UL listed lamps have 14ga (or should it be 12ga for a common 20 amp household circuit) cords?

 

[whoaru99]

So, you're saying that all UL listed lamps have 14ga (or should it be 12ga for a common 20 amp household circuit) cords?

No, but my lay interpretation of NEC 240.5 is that cords for lights/fixtures of 18ga or 16ga can't be on a branch circuit larger than 20A.

For a 40A and 50A circuits looks like the minimum size conductor is 12ga.

I don't believe any of that is intended to imply the wire sizes mentioned are good for what the breakers could supply in terms of regular load. Only that the conductor vs. breaker size has to do with sufficient conductor capacity to withstand the fault current until the breaker trips.

Again, this is only my lay interpretation.

 

[borealis]

No, but my lay interpretation of NEC 240.5 is that cords for lights/fixtures of 18ga or 16ga can't be on a branch circuit larger than 20A.

For a 40A and 50A circuits looks like the minimum size conductor is 12ga.

I don't believe any of that is intended to imply the wire sizes mentioned are good for what the breakers could supply in terms of regular load. Only that the conductor vs. breaker size has to do with sufficient conductor capacity to withstand the fault current until the breaker trips.

Again, this is only my lay interpretation.

Does anybody know definitively what the answer is here? It makes a big difference to me in terms of even ordering the burner? Thank you.

 

[Epimetheus]

Boralis, more info is needed from you before a definitive answer can be given.

What is the amps rating of the breaker for your dryer?

The induction plate in question is 3500W at 240V which is 15A. If the dryer breaker is 40A or 50A, then post #58 indicates the appliance wire should be 12 gauge. You can check the induction plate specifications on that.

Post #16 suggests a 20A in-line breaker to protect the appliance. The dryer breaker would protect the house wiring.