Why is it so anti-craft beer to get drunk?

[McMalty]

What are you talking about?????? A lot of the discussions on this forum are solely about getting drunk. Hell, you're posting in a section called "Drunken Ramblings and Mindless Mumbling." If anything, we don't need to talk about getting drunk b/c it's pretty much implied that most of us get drunk on our brew, that's why we talk mainly about brewing and don't ask, "hey, is anyone getting drunk off this stuff?" Of course we are, not gonna write a book about it tho

 

[Wakadaka]

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/keg-stands-send-photos-246851/

That is somewhat proof of what I am talking about. Not the best example, because a keg stand is different then just enjoying several pints, and I think that was a lot of just a plug for his own business.

But still if people want to do a keg stand on their corny and post it on the internet, I am a proponent of that. Its funny. It would be awesome to see a picture of somebody sucking the beer right from the tap on a wall. I really see no reason somebody should get offended by that.

You brew your own beer do what you please with it

 

[emjay]

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/keg-stands-send-photos-246851/

That is somewhat proof of what I am talking about. Not the best example, because a keg stand is different then just enjoying several pints, and I think that was a lot of just a plug for his own business.

But still if people want to do a keg stand on their corny and post it on the internet, I am a proponent of that. Its funny. It would be awesome to see a picture of somebody sucking the beer right from the tap on a wall. I really see no reason somebody should get offended by that.

You brew your own beer do what you please with it

It would be such a shame to spend all that time brewing a beer, just to kill a keg like that. But it might be a decent way to save a batch gone wrong from the miserable fate of a drainpour.

Though with some of the beers people here often brew, it could get downright dangerous

 

[emjay]

She's not really a hermaphrodite that was just some stupid internet rumor that you, like a sucker, believe. So she wrote the song to mock those people, because they are suckers.



No, she's not. Again, stupid internet rumors.


I am not a fan. I don't listen to her music. But even I know that she is not a man or hermaphrodite.

Actually, the song has nothing to do with her except her social conscience. The song was written to support gay rights.

 

[FromZwolle]

i'll raise my hand as well. i brew beer that is too expensive or too hard to find because those styles are darn tasty. I don't like the feeling of being drunk, and i'll be quite satisfied to never have a hangover again.

That being said, i don't mind a little buzz on a saturday night. I just would rather be able to drink more than a six pack of good beer and still have a clear head.

 

[FromZwolle]

And that's why several of us ARE into trying to brew good tasting non alcoholic beers. Not all the time...but still.

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Is there a designated thread for this yet. i'd love to try my hand at it eventually, and to be able to follow others' progress until i have the chance to take a crack at it.

It would be great to have one spot to discuss recipe formulation, methods, results, names, and obviously pics.

 

[CreekBrewery]

I love beer, my beer that is, way too much to not enjoy it. When you get drunk you're not enjoying the beer. I don't drink beer to get drunk... if I want to get ripped I'll drink Kesslers

 

[curlyfat]

I love getting a buzz. I'm not ashamed of it. In fact, I went out to the bars with friends tonight and pounded BMCs because that was the option.

I also have a beer on tap that is 3.8%, and a beer that is 15%. I love the craft, the hobby, the FLAVOR, and generally tasting new things. I love beer.

Also, as noted previously, this is the DRUNKEN RAMBLINGS AND MINDLESS MUMBLINGS section....um....how is it unclear that we all like a little drunk?

 

[McMalty]

in response to the OP, i don't think so much that it's "anti-craft brew" to get drunk, it's moreso that it's a waste. A lot of people like to get drunk, however, craft beer is relatively expensive and its usually of high quality. When we get drunk, our senses are dulled, including our sense of taste. So at that point, it doesn't matter what you're pouring down your gullet, that $3 craft brew or that 30 cent budweiser, it's gonna do the same thing.

The same goes for our homebrew. Usually, we make stuff that we consider pretty damn good beer, and we've spent all that time and effort making it, to down a bunch of them in an alcoholic stupor would be a waste of all the hard work and time we put into making it. For this reason, you'll find that many people wanting to get drunk will start off with a good craft brew or homebrew and as they become more intoxicated, cut their drinking with lesser commercial beers or homebrews.

Ever go into your fridge the next day and say, "damn, I drank my entire stash of DFH, last night? why'd i do that? that's what we're talking about, it's drinker's remorse.

 

[mcaple1]

Just spend a night listening to the Sunday Session on the brewing network if you feel left out...they openly encourage drinking...arguably to an extreme. But hey, to each his own.

 

[Dr. Francois]

i'll raise my hand as well. i brew beer that is too expensive or too hard to find because those styles are darn tasty. I don't like the feeling of being drunk, and i'll be quite satisfied to never have a hangover again.

+1

Right now I'm brewing session beers, all under 4%. I call them "Dad Beers" because I need to a) be able to keep up with my destructive dinosaur of a two-year-old and b) be able to drive said dinosaur to the emergency room if he is able to follow through on one of his plans of self-destruction.

Said child:

I was a frat boy in college. I drank...hard. I still do on occasion. I'm an enthusiastic member of a bourbon-drinking website. I have more bottles of wine in my cellar than I have relatives in my extended family.

I think my current signature quote by Roland Barthes sums up my current philosophy quite well. He's describing the French attitude toward wine.

"drunkenness is a consequence, never an intention. A drink is felt as the spinning out of a pleasure, not as the necessary cause of an effect which is sought."
--Roland Barthes

 

[ksbrain]

tldr

I brew so I can drink a lot for a bargain price. That's right I said it. Sure downing a dozen DFH in a night is a financial issue but a dozen DFH clones... not so much.

 

[android]

I often will forgo food just so I can drink beer on an empty stomach so I'll catch a better buzz. I can eat later. There, I said it. And I know I'm not the only one.

no sir, you are not.

once i eat, the drinking usually stops.

 

[jgln]

no sir, you are not.

once i eat, the drinking usually stops.

For me too. I also if I want to not drink, I drink something else and the desire to drink beer goes away. Deciding to eat is a good way to call it a night, once I eat I am done. Well, I can have some pretzles, cheese even a wing or two but a meal I am done.

I like the taste of beer but honestly if it did not relax me I would probably stop. I like ice tea too and it is cheaper.

 

[ssf4444]

I get drunk on craft (and homebrew all the time.) Some people tend to be snobs and feel they are better than others so while they are hiding behind their computer screen they spout such bull**** as "I drink for the taste, but stop when I start to get a buzz".

 

[Talljake6110]

I usually do not have my first beer (homebrew) with the intention of getting drunk. Usually. However, because they taste so damned good, i usually will have another, and another, and many times I do find myself pretty drunk. Other times i have one or two beers with dinner and that is it. Craft brew is primarily about the flavor and making beer you enjoy drinking, but yes, a result of having multiple good flavored beers is a buzz. Its not a good result, or a bad result. It is just a result. I've thrown parties using homebrew. It gets a lot of compliments and yeah, usually gets people pretty drunk. What is a shame is people getting drunk off a homebrew that do not appreciate it.

 

[Hugh_Jass]

no sir, you are not.

once i eat, the drinking usually stops.

This.....

also...

Most all of my beers brewed these days are 1.050 or under. The two current favorites on tap are Orfy's Mild and a low gravity centennial wheat.

I enjoy the act of drinking beer. The reason I brew low OG is to enjoy the flavor w/o getting sloppy. There's not much I enjoy more than knocking back 6 - 8 beers and bs.ing w/ Mrs. Jass and/or friends and family. I could do this w/ BMC (sometimes do), but prefer the full flavors of the beers I make. The inebriation is simply a side benefit; an externality if you will.

 

[quadbikerjosh]

i also have gotten the feeling here myself. i was confused when i recieved such atention on the "drunken ramblings" section of the website. one would thik that would be a good place to talk about the effects of your latest brew without some guy telling you your acting like a child. like they have never been even a little tipsey on their own beer before. anyway, forget about it n have a beer

 

[Clann]

I enjoy the act of drinking beer. The reason I brew low OG is to enjoy the flavor w/o getting sloppy. There's not much I enjoy more than knocking back 6 - 8 beers and bs.ing w/ Mrs. Jass and/or friends and family. I could do this w/ BMC (sometimes do), but prefer the full flavors of the beers I make. The inebriation is simply a side benefit; an externality if you will.

I couldnt have said it better my self.

But I bs. with my wife

 

[Kikshaaz]

I am on call 24/7 so I really am not ever looking to get trashed, Just prefer tasty beers.

 

[quadbikerjosh]

+1

Right now I'm brewing session beers, all under 4%. I call them "Dad Beers" because I need to a) be able to keep up with my destructive dinosaur of a two-year-old and b) be able to drive said dinosaur to the emergency room if he is able to follow through on one of his plans of self-destruction.

Said child:

I was a frat boy in college. I drank...hard. I still do on occasion. I'm an enthusiastic member of a bourbon-drinking website. I have more bottles of wine in my cellar than I have relatives in my extended family.

I think my current signature quote by Roland Barthes sums up my current philosophy quite well. He's describing the French attitude toward wine.

"drunkenness is a consequence, never an intention. A drink is felt as the spinning out of a pleasure, not as the necessary cause of an effect which is sought."
--Roland Barthes

+1 on dad responsibilities. that is one fracking awsome kid.

 

[MeatyPortion]

Irony going on with the thread and the sub-forum name.

 

[BenjaminBier]

I want to be addicted to home-brewing but not addicted to alcohol. It's important for all of us to moderate our consumption, even if we indulge our preoccupation with procuring homebrew.

 

[drathbone]

My only confusion would be this: Why would anybody who wants to make hooch (sh*t to get drunk with no quality to it) buy any ingredients and go through a process that creates something that even resembles beer? There are easier ways to make some swill without DME/LME etc. Go to sams club, buy a f*** ton of sugar, go to LHBS and buy distillers yeast. Boil sugar, cool, add yeast. Wait, drink then done.

Now I'm still an amateur brewer, but isn't anything that's "imperial" just a higher ABV than the original style? What would be the purpose of this other than the obvious which I might think the OP could be referring too.

 

[ArcaneXor]

I rarely brew anything imperial, but those beers do tend to taste differently than their regular siblings.

 

[drathbone]

I rarely brew anything imperial, but those beers do tend to taste differently than their regular siblings.

I agree. I'm sure they do taste differently (I'm still not experienced enough to entirely recognize this). I've tasted plenty of high(er) grav beers that are amazing and hide the ABV well. Is this taste in part simply due to the ABV? Or could the flavor profile be replicated without the added ABV which in turn makes it moot right? Other than getting the greater ABV effect of it.

 

[emjay]

I agree. I'm sure they do taste differently (I'm still not experienced enough to entirely recognize this). I've tasted plenty of high(er) grav beers that are amazing and hide the ABV well. Is this taste in part simply due to the ABV? Or could the flavor profile be replicated without the added ABV which in turn makes it moot right? Other than getting the greater ABV effect of it.

They get the added flavor because they are using more pounds of grain per gallon of beer, which will give any beer a more intense flavor just due to the fact that more stuff is being used for the same-sized batch. If you're making coffee and double the amount of grounds, you'd expect a stronger taste, right?

But the grain is also what contains the sugars that the yeast convert to alcohol, so more grain ALSO means a higher ABV. That's just an unavoidable fact in brewing - if you want to intensify the maltiness by using more grain, you're also going to have to deal with a higher alcohol content.

So even those of us who don't really care about getting buzzed will still drink and sometimes brew beers exceeding 10% ABV because these kinds of beers provide an intensity of flavor that simply can't be obtained any other way.

 

[McMalty]

Now I'm still an amateur brewer, but isn't anything that's "imperial" just a higher ABV than the original style? What would be the purpose of this other than the obvious which I might think the OP could be referring too.

Imperials are not just about having higher ABV. There is so much more flavor in an imperial. When your palette gets to a certain point, you may desire to have stronger flavors in your beer. An imperial is a juiced up version of it's non-imperial brethren, in all respects, not just alcohol. If you crave more intensity, you might try an imperial to satiate your craving.

I often have an imperial after work and just sit outside and enjoy it like one would a glass of wine.

 

[JoeyChopps]

like many I love to drink beer. but, i will admit something that no one else has yet. I usually have 2 kegs in the frig and 2 to 3 beers bottle and always have some keystone or high life in there too. I drink my homebrew till i know i am starting to waste it and then if i want some more on a weekend I move to cheap beer. I got a lot going on in my life and deserve an escape on the weekends. JMO

 

[phenry]

Anti-craft beer to get drunk? Tell that to the $3 pint fire sale they had of Stone IPA at the Flying Saucer last night. Sooo much better on tap than out of the bottle.

But yeah, while I see no problem in "indulging" one's self from time to time, getting drunk and acting like an idiot is what makes alcohol such a controversial substance. It only takes a few bad apples to ruin a bunch, but sadly we have way too many bad apples when it comes to beer drinkers.

It's just sad that in law makers and politicians eyes craft beer falls in line with the BMC swill that fills just about every bar and frat party.