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There's lots of people in here. There's always going to be someone here whom knocks someone else for something that has to do with something and some other things while promoting something to do with some belief they hold.

I've seen people knock and promote just about everything here.
 
I don't mind a friendly buzz. Nothing worse than a belligerent, foul mouthed sloppy drunk, though. I enjoy being around a few people with whom I have had a few nice beers and am sharing a nice buzz with, but being around drunks, regrdless of what they got drunk on, can be very much a drag.
 
It sounds like moderation is the key. I, like most of the posters so far, think both flavor and buzz are important. Luckily, it takes me a few, so I get to enjoy plenty of flavor before the buzz hits me. But there is never a need (for me) to go to Bud to just get drunk - plus it would take me all night!
 
anyone who says they drink beer solely for the taste or the artisticness is a fecking liar! :d

+1

and lets put it this way . . . I dont brew a single beer less then 6% ABV and thats only because lately I have been trying to reduce the ABV of my brews . . .
 
Revvy said:
and I really appreciated the couple of good tasting N/A beers I was able to find. And that's why several of us ARE into trying to brew good tasting non alcoholic beers. Not all the time...but still.

I'm not being snobby, I'm not bashing bmc drinkers, but unless you have open heart surgery or an illness that prevents YOU from being able to drink, don't call us snobs OR hypocrites, OR liars.

If you wanna get blitzed that's your trip. But don't disrespect those of us who have other views.....

There's some things to be said for enjoying something that tastes great that doesn't get you a DUI, or liver disease, heart damage or that you can drink when you're pregnant, or recovering from a major illness.

Which NA beers did you like? And what progress have you made on brewing reduced- alcohol beers?
I also love the taste of beer but don't don't always want the side-effects. When I get drunk, I try hard to keep it to where I won't end up with a hangover.
 
so raising my hand as well. I won't fault those out there who wanna get blitzed.. have at it. I can't stand being plastered, I really hate the hang over, but just for reminders, I set out to get hammered once a year. I'm not a snob about it though.

I think more often than not, this place is about improving the craft. I've seen very little opposition to those who like to get druk.. Now I have seen opposition (and rightly so) to those who would stoop so low as to admit publicly that they drink BMC... for shame.

Even if you're at a party, and it's the only "beer" they have... drink some burbon for pete's sake.... BMC only paves the way to hell my friends... it's a gateway to Zima! and we all know what people who drink Zima are like... :D
 
I love to get hammered on good beer and wine and spirits, it's the best of both worlds.

I've just turned 40 and have a 3 year old kid, so it's hardly ever during the week because I have to work, but Friday or Saturday I like to tie one on, again not every weekend, but the purpose of drinking is to get inebriated. Whether that's a small or a large buzz is irrelevant, it's the same purpose. If it ever got to the stage where I couldn't sleep without a buzz on then it's time for me to give it up.
 
Wow, if anything, I get plenty of notion that people on here like to get a good buzz on. I've been to several homebrew days where there wasn't much stumbling around acting like idiots, but I can say with confidence that most of the people there had at least a little stinger the next morning!

I'm not usually one to promote intoxication, especially if the person can't act at least NICE when they are drunk, but for instance, this weekend I KNOW I'm going to get a good buzz going! Going to sample a BUNCH of homebrew. I'm not going just go get plastered, but it's the sad side effect. Hopefully I'll be able to pace myself like I envision now.

I do enjoy the mellow feeling sometimes when I want a relax. But other times I wish I could have a tasty beer and NOT have any alcohol. That's the reason why I am joining forces with a few people on here to look into making delicious NON ALCOHOLIC homebrew. At least to see if it can be done. I would like to be able to come home and have a full-flavored, full bodied beer after work and not have to worry about driving the kids to dance, or running to the store.

But I can guarantee you this: There are a lot of people here who would laugh at the attempt to make a non alcoholic homebrew.

Whatever. To each their own, and as long as these people aren't out driving on the roads after drinking, or beating up on their kids and/or wives, I could not care less.

-Homer
 
There's lots of people in here. There's always going to be someone here whom knocks someone else for something that has to do with something and some other things while promoting something to do with some belief they hold.

I've seen people knock and promote just about everything here.

And this is going to happen in any and every forum. I've been on enough to see that :p

My two cents ... I agree with most people on here in that I enjoy drinking great beer and also enjoy the inevitable relaxing effects of alcohol. Almost any time I crack open a beer I don't have the goal to get hammered, but sometimes they are flowing a little too well and going down a bit too easy and next thing you know ... BAM you gotta real nice buzz on or even more than just a buzz. It happens. But to each his (or her) own ... whatever makes you happy!
 
I often will forgo food just so I can drink beer on an empty stomach so I'll catch a better buzz. I can eat later. There, I said it. And I know I'm not the only one.:)
 
Beer drinkers are becoming foo-foo little *******? Don't get me wrong I love the taste of beer but I'd never consider making non alcoholic beer. Alcohol and beer need to go together. Byproduct of beer is drunkenness. I don't know if you're just trying to wind everyone up here but I haven't gotten that vibe on this forum.

Do what you will, and say what you will, but there isn't a brew day that i'm not trashed by the time that wort is cooling.
 
I have learned that there is no worse start to any day than to start with a hangover.

That being said, I do like to relax with a couple of beers, and do not mind a slight buzz from time to time. And sometimes the beer is going down so well I end up more than buzzed, but I will not drink to the point of drunk anymore.

I can understand why people on this forum would look down on those who drink soley to be drunk, although I am not one of them. If you want to be drunk, be drunk.

But when you are, no need to fight and get angry. And when you're woken up at 4:30 AM to go fishing, you damn well better have a smile on your face. :)
 
I've never gotten that vibe from this forum. Now, we don't necessarily always drink for the purpose of getting drunk or even buzzed, but sometimes we do, and I've never felt looked down upon around here for those times. But generally, when I have a beer, it's 1-2 in an evening spanning a few hours. I am drinking for flavor and not buzz then, but I also take 6-12 beers to a cookout or something with the full intention of drinking them all and getting a good buzz. I still drink tasty stuff though in those circumstances...usually :D
 
Beer without alcohol is like Lady Gaga without the hot body. There will always be those self-serving, idealist types who say they’re there for the music, but take away the looks and theatrics and she’d never have gotten to where she is today.

Not a fan of the stupid drunk, but a mellow buzz sure is nice.
 
WTF :eek:

Damn! I'd hate to be in your head.

($hit, I said head. Just think what he'll do with that.)

You do know that lady GaGa is a hermaphrodite???

What did you think the song "Born this way" was about?

You're gonna have to shower in bleach after you do a bit of googling man.
Muahahaa
 
For one thing, there are some people who can't have alcohol without risking creating more health issues, so making NA homebrew would be one way to allow them to have a craft-style beer without the side effects.

And as I've said before, there are times where I would like to enjoy a good beer, but not want to risk getting pulled over and taken to jail, or risk endangering the lives of my family or others on the road. It may be that this NA homebrew experiment might prove useful to that end as well.

Or consider the responsible person in a group who decides to be a designated driver. Having a decent choice of a drink might be a good thing to have for them.

For sure I like drinking beer, and I don't often mind a bit of a buzz. But there are times where I would consider it irresponsible to drink it.
 
You do know that lady GaGa is a hermaphrodite???
No. I really don't care about her reproductive organs or her dog like face.
All I said was that she has a hot body and an act, and that's what attracts people.
I don't listen to or like her music. Why am I expaining this?

I guess using a metaphor doesn’t work for some people. Sorry. :D
 
I often will forgo food just so I can drink beer on an empty stomach so I'll catch a better buzz. I can eat later. There, I said it. And I know I'm not the only one.:)

I do almost everyday after work put two or three down on the way to shower dont get hammered but a good mellow (tried unwind) but doesnt look right Here in heat a couple are good I have 14 kegs 8 on tap and not afraid to use them. Yea am over forty, not talking fall down drunk but do like to relax with my tasty homebrews. This is why we brew over 3.2% beers with taste. Not taking shots at those with heath issues even they wish they still could relax with a few So dont be a buzzkill this hobby is about relaxing after all :mug:
 
AnOldUR said:
No. I really don't care about her reproductive organs or her dog like face.
All I said was that she has a hot body and an act, and that's what attracts people.
I don't listen to or like her music. Why am I expaining this?

I guess using a metaphor doesn’t work for some people. Sorry. :D

Please post picture of said hot body.
 
my college days are over and I have a wife and kids so there is no getting snukered anymore. That being said, I certainly like a beer with dinner, almost every night.
 
I got very snukered last night and I have a wife and a baby. Doesnt happen often but when it does it is fn sweet.
 
I love being labeled a liar without even posting!

When I was around 19, my first two years in University (which is a legal drinking age here), I was already into craft beer (my first alcohol purchase ever being a sixer of Trois Pistoles), but rarely a week would go by where there wasn't at least one night that I'd drinking an entire 750ml bottle of 40% liquor.

After a little while, wondering every time why I kept doing that to myself, I realized that I didn't really like feeling drunk.

I'm only 25 now, but my tolerance has since dropped significantly but although I now have slight liver issues, it's not something I really think about.

These days, I drink (and brew) craft beer strictly for taste. In a world where pretty much everything these days can be overwhelmingly sweet, even a simple beer can be a nice escape from that. And great beers can absolutely blow my mind. I'd easily consider myself a foodie, and my love for great brews is really just a natural extension of that.

There is simply nothing else like it out there though, so whether I like it or not, drinking good beer means drinking alcohol. There might be the extremely rare occassion when I'm looking for a little buzz (never full-on drunk though), but I mean EXTREMELY rare. I CAN drink BMC without gagging, but if I'm at a restaurant or a friend's place or whatever, and that's all they have, I'll pass on it simply because I see no point. Heck, it's worse than that - having to drink alcohol without any personal up-side.

Generally, I'd love to make or buy equally great beer without alcohol. But all I've ever seen is a few alcohol-free versions of macroswill. There's nothing I'd love more than to be able to drink a bunch of beers without worrying about feeling sick, having the room spin, or deal with hangovers. I'd be thrilled at the ability to go to a great beer bar and try out a nice portion of their extensive selection, or sample a bunch of local homebrew, without worrying about designated drivers or how to get home. I'd love to be able to crack open a beer for any (every!) meal or time of day without having to make sure I don't need a clear head for certain responsibilities or anything else that might be on the agenda - and I don't even have kids yet!

But alcohol goes hand in hand with beer, and unfortunately, big flavor often comes with big alcohol, due to the relationship between the grain bill and ABV. I don't let the fact deter me from making big beers, as the payoff is often worth it, but the result of the alcohol content in ANY beer is that I don't get to enjoy this incredible drink nearly as much as I'd like to.

I don't care if people drink to get drunk, though there's little that upsets/angers/disgusts me more than people who get drunk and become belligerent, obnoxious, or otherwise just an *******. Alcohol never did that to me, but I find it beyond selfish when people intentionally get hammered if that's the kind of person they suddenly transform into. If you're looking for a bit of stress relief, to unwind, to loosen up a bit socially, etc, and you can still be civil even when you're loaded, then more power to you.

In fact, the art and science of beer-making wouldn't be anywhere near where it is today without people looking to get a buzz without swallowing something gross. The same thing could be said for fine wines, liquors, etc - there's a reason that you don't see the same level of artistry and refinement with something like cola. So these people still have my undying gratitude :) The only thing that might get me less than cooperative in a thread where somebody is looking yo get maximum punch without regard to flavor is when something leads me to believe that the poster might be a kid looking to make something cheap and powerful because they can't otherwise obtain or afford retail alcohol.

I know I'm in the minority here, and I'm not going to condescend to people for just doing what people are practically hard-wired to do. But it would be nice if people realized that the rest of the world doesn't operate from with their own personal framework, and that just because it might be difficult to understand doesn't mean that others must be bull****ting when they say that alcohol is not even a minor reason for why they drink beer.
 
holy wall of txt, i am way to lazy/intoxicated to read that!

When i entered this hobby i was like wow i can really make beers that are high in alc. and can get me drunk faster for cheaper.

now that i have grown a bit, i really brew for the taste, some part of the alc, but no so much anymore, its just an added affect now, but not the overall goal is to be drunk on homebrew. Speaking of that i think its time go go fill this pitcher again... since i have nothing worth doing tomorrow and its spose to rain.
 
You do know that lady GaGa is a hermaphrodite???

What did you think the song "Born this way" was about?

You're gonna have to shower in bleach after you do a bit of googling man.
Muahahaa

She's not really a hermaphrodite that was just some stupid internet rumor that you, like a sucker, believe. So she wrote the song to mock those people, because they are suckers.

"Lady" Gaga is a man. I understood completely what was implied.

No, she's not. Again, stupid internet rumors.


I am not a fan. I don't listen to her music. But even I know that she is not a man or hermaphrodite.
 
I think the stuff is so damned good I just end up obliterated trying everything I have on "look at all these new brews I found" night.
 
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