PackerfaninSanDiego
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lead is tasteless
Who uses garden hose water to brew?
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lead is tasteless
Originally Posted by USAFSooner
I use a blue potable water hose from WalMart ran through a filter. My beer tastes just fine.
OK...But I doubt the "blue" or "potable" tastes bad???
I use a blue potable water hose from WalMart ran through a filter. My beer tastes just fine.
OK...But I doubt the "blue" or "potable" tastes bad???
DirtyOldDuck
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I just make kids six and under sign a release before I allow them to imbibe any of my leaded homebrew since lead is a lot more harmful to kids in that age range than to beer drinking adults. Oh, I also make pregnant woman and nursing woman sign releases also, but unlike the kids they really shouldn't be drinking anyway.
I cannot imagine that you could get enough lead from a garden hose to cause health problems in an adult. Hell, we all drank water from hoses when we were kids and are still kicking. Half the products you buy in an auto parts store or anyplace selling cleaning solvents are known the the state of California to cause cancer. In fact, I find those warnings to be so ubiquitous, I pretty much ignore them.
PackerfaninSanDiego
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blue tastes better than green
yeah. I prefer wintergreen over mint also. : ]
USAFSooner
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No hose water taste that I can detect.
cavalrymsh
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Yeah, but that's the water softener, not necessarily the hose. If you were to collect water from the hose, then remove the hose and collect water directly from the tap, I'll bet you'd find no appreciable difference.
Ramitt
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Drinking water safe hoses are to cheap not to use in the big picture of what we spend on brewing.
ObsidianJester
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I use mine to run the wort chiller!
However to the serious nature of the post, It appears that the health concerns are as follows:
1. Brand new hoses that have not had enough water running though them to leach out whatever chemicals are in there.
2. As in many things its not incidental contact, or a sip of water or occasional ingestion in small amounts that are the problem, it is questionable hoses that have long term ingestion/contact situations happening.
3. This would mean since much of this is heavy metal contact that is not boiled out of your brew that actually brewing with your garden hose could be something of a crapshoot. Could a few brews hurt you, not likely but long term the damage could be there.
4. You could get your water tested like many do from their tap to see the water profile if you want to use a hose and have a clear mind.
5. You could get a food safe hose and not worry about it. (This may be cheaper than sending your hose water off to a lab to check it.)
6. See what chemicals are found commonly in hoses particular to country of origin. Remember though heavy metals are very slow to be removed if at all from the body so the accumulation factor is what gets anyone.
7. Save empty gallon water/milk/juice jugs ahead of time and fill them with the desired water from the faucet to have available on brew day.
8 Relax, have a home brew or brew period after a riveting discussion I never thought I would have about garden hoses.
However to the serious nature of the post, It appears that the health concerns are as follows:
1. Brand new hoses that have not had enough water running though them to leach out whatever chemicals are in there.
2. As in many things its not incidental contact, or a sip of water or occasional ingestion in small amounts that are the problem, it is questionable hoses that have long term ingestion/contact situations happening.
3. This would mean since much of this is heavy metal contact that is not boiled out of your brew that actually brewing with your garden hose could be something of a crapshoot. Could a few brews hurt you, not likely but long term the damage could be there.
4. You could get your water tested like many do from their tap to see the water profile if you want to use a hose and have a clear mind.
5. You could get a food safe hose and not worry about it. (This may be cheaper than sending your hose water off to a lab to check it.)
6. See what chemicals are found commonly in hoses particular to country of origin. Remember though heavy metals are very slow to be removed if at all from the body so the accumulation factor is what gets anyone.
7. Save empty gallon water/milk/juice jugs ahead of time and fill them with the desired water from the faucet to have available on brew day.
8 Relax, have a home brew or brew period after a riveting discussion I never thought I would have about garden hoses.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Element-...ater-Hose-ELMRV12025FM/100175856#.UdwQK5zd1X8
http://www.lowes.com/pd_429501-177-...uctId=4363615&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1
Same brand. Same specs. Just different color and price.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_429501-177-...uctId=4363615&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1
Same brand. Same specs. Just different color and price.
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rubber garden hose...
i spoke with my grandfather last night on the phone and asked him about drinking from the garden hose. he said of course we did. we drank just about any water we could find when we were out terrorizing the neighbourhood. he said we never ran in the house to get a glass of water, cut in to our time. He then laughed at me after i told him about this debate. LOL he said that being worried about all the little things in life were going to kill me.
and yes i have always drank for the garden hose and will continue to.
and yes i have always drank for the garden hose and will continue to.
Gringo_Bandito
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I'll take the word of the EPA over some random Bing results.
http://www.epa.gov/reg3wcmd/lp-faqhealth.htm
Also, don't use Bing.
I use potable RV hoses and a 2 stage RV sediment/GAC/KDF filter. This is going to catch any sediment and/or bacteria. Then I typically treat with Campden tablets to eliminate the chloramine that our water source uses and add the minerals to make up for what our water lacks and acid to counteract the alkalinity that our water has plenty of when needed.
I use the regular garden hose with an in-line RV filter I picked up at Wal-Mart for about 15 bucks. Keep it dry and with the brew gear when not in use. Works just as good as the filter in the fridge and is actually a little bigger.
Don't recall seeing that size. I have a 10' that I bought from Amazon for less than $7. I recall seeing 4' also, but that was more expensive than the 10'.
leadfree garden hose for me, no taste to it. Many minutes of water are used to pre-clean and wash down the area prior to brewing so the hose has been flushed many-a-time.
PackerfaninSanDiego
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lead is tasteless
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mikescooling
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It's a statement, you post the same thing over and over, word for word. I do read every post, and here is this guy " lead is tasteless"," lead is tasteless" OK!!! I got it the first time!!!
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Craigtube uses a green garden hose.
Why don't you just draw a glass from the tap and from the hose and do a taste/chem test.
Also, a local OSH store will carry all the supplies needed to make your own food-grade hose with minimal labor, so I suggest that. My store has at least half dozen different types of vinyl and hi-heat hoses in all appropriate sizes.
Craigtube? Seriously?
It amazes me that people will build elaborate rigs, buy the finest ingredients, control fermentation with a freezer/digital controller, and then use unsafe, foul-tasting water from a standard garden hose for the primary ingredient in their homebrew.
g-star said:Craigtube? Seriously?
It amazes me that people will build elaborate rigs, buy the finest ingredients, control fermentation with a freezer/digital controller, and then use unsafe, foul-tasting water from a standard garden hose for the primary ingredient in their homebrew.
I went ahead and ordered an RV hose. It's funny because I never thought this topic would be so divisive!
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ultravista
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I filter my water through a carbon filter one gallon at a time. Sure, it takes a wee bit longer but I know the water is better than without.
I would never use a regular garden house. The one I bought @ Sams Club a year ago still smells like vinyl when I'm watering the plants.
I would never use a regular garden house. The one I bought @ Sams Club a year ago still smells like vinyl when I'm watering the plants.
From my experience extract with hose water couldn't taste a difference. All grain with hose water taste like beer with an after taste of hose. My water is good it taste fine drinking it from the hose but once used to brew taste overpowered the beer. Filtered water is worth the cost to have the control over flavor. As others have said why spend so much time and money on equipmemt if you aren't going to do the same for the largest ingredient involved in brewing.
I'd worry more about chlorine/chloramines in unfiltered tap water run through even an RV/Marine hose affecting the final taste over a hose taste.
I use an RV hose with a filter for brew day. Before that I used bottles of spring water from the store.
I use an RV hose with a filter for brew day. Before that I used bottles of spring water from the store.
I use RV hoses and a filter, and then I use Campden because I know our water company uses chloramines.
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