Who is this guy??? lol

[seigex]

Hey- this guy is having fun, is inspiring people to get into brewing, and clearly likes his own beer. What is wrong with that? It's also a great reminder that beer brewing doesn't have to be complicated. Is the beer good? Not for me to say.

I completely agree, thats the great part about home brew and craft brew.. there's no specific rules to it.. You make the rules.. If you want to do it half-assed then hey, more power to you...

Remember we're not commercial brewers that have to toe the line on a specific recipes, formulas or directions.. People will see him, realize how easy it is, then find homebrewtalk or other forums and learn how to improve ...

 

[BeerPressure]

I couldnt drink a beer as fast as that guy. wow.

 

[-TH-]

I thought we weren't supposed to knock a method until we've tried it.

 

[brrman]

My grandfather brews like that guy - his beer is always subpar, but he loves it and loves the process. Who am I to infringe on that... lol

 

[ohiobrewtus]

LOL

The rest of you are more polite than I am and I'll just leave it at that.

I'm really not anywhere near that polite, I just don't want to face the wrath of Yuri's modhammer.

 

[Yooper]

I'm really not anywhere near that polite, I just don't want to face the wrath of Yuri's modhammer.

Yeah, me neither.

I guess we could get all smug and insult the method, but if he likes the beer, then who am I to say it's wrong?

I wouldn't want to post my spaghetti sauce making video online, and have professional chefs (or amateur chefs)critique it. It's my sauce- I like it, it works for me, and it's quick and easy. Someone with more experience might jeer, because it's not the "right" way to do it.

It's the same thing with the beer. Many of us make good beer. But I've had some pretty ****ty beer in a few beerswaps, too. No way would I tell anybody that their way is wrong.

 

[Hegh]

<sarcasm>

I think we need a "Hooch" forum, where the main ingredients are sugar and kool-aid. Maybe it would attract Google searches from people watching these videos, and then they'd start browsing the rest of the site. :rockin:

</sarcasm>

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

Hey- this guy is having fun, is inspiring people to get into brewing, and clearly likes his own beer. What is wrong with that? It's also a great reminder that beer brewing doesn't have to be complicated. Is the beer good? Not for me to say.

I agree...some people enjoy playing bad golf. IMO it all goes back to the question; Why do you brew? If it's just for personal enjoyment then whatever gets you that personal enjoyment is a good thing.

 

[flyangler18]

You know, I'd say there are way more brewers doing things in the vein of AB, Craigtube and this guy than we think. Despite being some 30K members strong (of which say 10-20% are really active participants), HBT is really a small sliver of the total brewers out there.

For many, brewing at home is just about having access to inexpensive booze (like CraigTube) rather than geeking out on styles, process, yeast ranching, etc. These guys really embrace the homebrewing spirit, producing an end result they are satisfied with. It's being sensitive to the multitude of reasons that people choose to brew their own beer that gives me pause about evangelizing to the masses too loudly without sounding like an utter pedant.

Some comments.

 

[lamarguy]

From what I've heard, this was the state of the art during prohibition. Probably still better than a can of Bud

Probably not...If I was forced to choose between a Bud Light and homebrew beer fermented at 90F (that wasn't a Saison), I'd take the Bud Light all day.

No hot fusels for this guy...

 

[RScottyL]

As mentioned earlier, I got into this by watching CraigTube, as well as Mieces 2Pieces, and seeing how easy it is to start out with very basic equipment.

Anyway, I decided to start making my own videos, in the spirit of CT and M2P:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqSwiIIpFR8]Home Brew - Real Ale - Part 1[/ame]

 

[chefchris]

I'll just place my 2 cents right here.

The thing I'm concerned about is new guys thinking this is the way to do it. Sure, we can all be PC and say, "well if he likes it...", but he's more than liking it, he's making ****ing instructional videos. Let's be honest, that beer has to taste like ****. I don't want new guys that could go very far in this hobby seeing these videos, trying it out and quitting after one batch because it sucks ass.

 

[andysim]

that guy also creeped me out just a tiny bit....l

I'm pretty sure he lives in his mom's basement too.

 

[Hegh]

Well, people on this board made the "I am a homebrewer" video, perhaps we should make some instructional videos on how to *actually* do it.

I know a number of members have posted recordings of how they do it, but has anyone tried to do a real instructional video?

 

[ohiobrewtus]

I'll just place my 2 cents right here.

The thing I'm concerned about is new guys thinking this is the way to do it. Sure, we can all be PC and say, "well if he likes it...", but he's more than liking it, he's making ****ing instructional videos. Let's be honest, that beer has to taste like ****. I don't want new guys that could go very far in this hobby seeing these videos, trying it out and quitting after one batch because it sucks ass.

I could not agree more.

Well, people on this board made the "I am a homebrewer" video, perhaps we should make some instructional videos on how to *actually* do it.

I know a number of members have posted recordings of how they do it, but has anyone tried to do a real instructional video?

I've thought about it many times, but with a mediocre video camera and subpar video editing skills I'm concerned about the quality of the finished product.

 

[chefchris]

I could not agree more.



I've thought about it many times, but with a mediocre video camera and subpar video editing skills I'm concerned about the quality of the finished product.

Plus, what if the BN hated it?

 

[McCuckerson]

CraigTube


It was because of CraigTube, that I realized how easy it is to make beer starting out!

He looks like the crypt keeper

 

[ekranzusch]

No hot fusels for this guy...

If you slam it, you don't have to taste it.

I gotta admit, the boiling yet still sealed can of extract... priceless.

 

[chefchris]

Water in one pot, sugar in the second, drink from the third!

 

[RScottyL]

I'll just place my 2 cents right here.

The thing I'm concerned about is new guys thinking this is the way to do it. Sure, we can all be PC and say, "well if he likes it...", but he's more than liking it, he's making ****ing instructional videos. Let's be honest, that beer has to taste like ****. I don't want new guys that could go very far in this hobby seeing these videos, trying it out and quitting after one batch because it sucks ass.

I never thought that when I saw the videos!

Luckily, I had just not watched their videos, but alot of others, as I was doing my research!

I did learn that this is good for people that do want to get into this, are just starting out, and don't necessarily have the finances to get into all grain brewing!

I know the beer won't taste as great as in doing it with all grain brewing, but I am getting the satisfaction of making my own brew....and will eventually move up to all grain!

 

[Kickass]

Sure, there's some bad advice out there. We've been through this discussion before, and it usually winds up getting a bit ugly. The bottom line is that guys like Craig and mieses2pieces enjoy the hell out of what they do, so much so, that they felt compelled to share their experiences. That's actually pretty admirable. Places like HBT exist to help take it to the next level.

Touché, it may not be flawless but there is passion. I feel there is a bit of a disservice but I’ll reserve those comments on account of understanding points of view like yuri’s. Everyone is entitled to brew within their means, after all were all home brewers.

 

[seigex]

I'll just place my 2 cents right here.

The thing I'm concerned about is new guys thinking this is the way to do it. Sure, we can all be PC and say, "well if he likes it...", but he's more than liking it, he's making ****ing instructional videos. Let's be honest, that beer has to taste like ****. I don't want new guys that could go very far in this hobby seeing these videos, trying it out and quitting after one batch because it sucks ass.

My $.02 on your $.02, if people take that video, made ****ty beer, and give up to go on their way to other hobbies, then so be it. For any TRUE DIY'er as i'm sure most people here are in spirit, you have to make something, then learn how to improve upon it.

You can relate this to any hobby, such as remote control cars. You get one of those crappy radio shack or walmart remote control cars with the wire connecting the remote to the car. You decide you want something more intense, so you buy a wireless one, until you move on to gas cars and racing, or even helicopters and planes. This is just a point of entry, and if the person is a real DIY'er he'll find homebrewtalk.com just like all 30,000 of the rest of us did.

 

[ewtotel]

Actually... I'm horribly tempted to try his "method" on some boring Saturday afternoon when I have an empty bucket sitting around. I'm quite curious as to what the results would be.

 

[jacketsfans]

Sure, there's some bad advice out there. We've been through this discussion before, and it usually winds up getting a bit ugly. The bottom line is that guys like Craig and mieses2pieces enjoy the hell out of what they do, so much so, that they felt compelled to share their experiences. That's actually pretty admirable. Places like HBT exist to help take it to the next level.

This sums up my feelings pretty well on the matter. No matter how horrifying his processes and/or final product, people who have a pretty good idea of what they want in the end will gravitate here, just like the vast majority of us.

 

[Hegh]

My $.02 on your $.02, if people take that video, made ****ty beer, and give up to go on their way to other hobbies, then so be it. For any TRUE DIY'er as i'm sure most people here are in spirit, you have to make something, then learn how to improve upon it.

Maybe, but what about this other scenario:

You find this video on YouTube and say, "Wow, that looks easy and cheap, and I'd have beer!" You follow the instructions, you're pretty sure you did everything right, and the end result is... Not what you were hoping for.

This being your only experience with homebrew, you assume that all homebrew tastes about like this, since you don't have the right equipment and ingredients like the big brewers have. You give up and figure that you just have very different tastes than that guy.

Unless there was a link somewhere near that video saying "For more information and better recipes, visit homebrewtalk.com," you would have no reason to believe that anybody could do better without a "real" brewery.

 

[flyangler18]

I'll just place my 2 cents right here.

The thing I'm concerned about is new guys thinking this is the way to do it. Sure, we can all be PC and say, "well if he likes it...", but he's more than liking it, he's making ****ing instructional videos. Let's be honest, that beer has to taste like ****. I don't want new guys that could go very far in this hobby seeing these videos, trying it out and quitting after one batch because it sucks ass.

I agree with you in spirit, but the internet is probably the most democratic medium out there - anyone with a connection and a video camera can self-publish, and YouTube is testament to that. I'm not trying to be PC, but I recognize that no amount of griping and complaining about it on one small corner of the web is going to drastically change that.

People brew for different reasons - for CT and M2P, it's about doing things on the cheap and they are satisfied with the end result. Who am I to tell them different? As large as HBT is, we're not nearly as influential as you seem to think.

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

You find this video on YouTube and say, "Wow, that looks easy and cheap, and I'd have beer!" You follow the instructions, you're pretty sure you did everything right, and the end result is... Not what you were hoping for.

This being your only experience with homebrew, you assume that all homebrew tastes about like this, since you don't have the right equipment and ingredients like the big brewers have. You give up and figure that you just have very different tastes than that guy.

Unless there was a link somewhere near that video saying "For more information and better recipes, visit homebrewtalk.com," you would have no reason to believe that anybody could do better without a "real" brewery.

I wouldn't really worry about new brewers who quit after one little failure on their first try...they prob weren't for homebrewing anyway. All it takes is a tiny bit of research/effort to find out that this process is about as scaled-down as it gets. Lots of folks don't make a very good brew on their first try...heck look at the instructions on some HBS-bought kits...some of them are only marginally better. It seems what usually happens is that the person actually makes beer and that in itself feels like an accomplishment.

Where's that super-secret instruction sheet that PBR malt extract used to send in the manilla envelope to those that asked for recipes via mail? As I recall it wasn't the greatest process either but that's what the malt extract manufacturer put in their instructions...and it made beer.

 

[flyangler18]

Here's a novel idea: encourage research, the kind that happens when you pick up a book and read rather than getting your instruction from a quick Google or YouTube search.

I read and reread How To Brew at least twice before making my first batch, I got to know my LHBS owner and I read lots and lots of forum postings.

I don't expect prospective brewers to take it to the extent that I did, but background research is absolutely critical to success.

I want to make the best beer possible, so I take it seriously.

 

[ohiobrewtus]

Here's a novel idea: blah blah blah

Here's another one: SHUT IT!

Just because you read How to Brew twice before you started doesn't mean that others are going to so the same. I know that I didn't. I brewed 2 batches before I read anything other than the instructions that came with them (but I did boil), THEN I figured out that I liked doing this and could make pretty good beer so I started doing research on how to make it even better.

The forum complaining about it is irrelevant. What is relevant is that obviously Tx needs to pay more to google so that n00bs don't find bad information before they (hopefully) find information that's at least mediocre.

 

[flyangler18]

Here's another one: SHUT IT!

Good advice. I'll be quiet now...for the time being.