What are you drinking now?

[Swarley88]

Couldn't resist the call of the Blaecorn Unidragon RIS. A phenomenal beer.

Love that beer.

 

[jerryteague]

Having a Roggenbier or three before I have to go to bed. Long weekend ahead (I'm gonna have to work my butt off getting things in order). Tomorrow, I plan on picking up some more Puncheon, and a few sixxers (not sure what yet, but I may also grab a couple Marshall 5's for the cellar).

Edit: dimmit, my keg just kicked, so only one Roggenbier. Had to break out another bottle of Puncheon, that I had planned to cellar. Oh well, I'll just have one less for later...

 

[Fuzzymittenbrewing]

Love that beer.

Just finishing up now. Best RIS I've ever had. I can't wait to start sampling everything else they have to offer.

 

[Cathedral]

Ahhhhh...guess they give off a kiwi like flavor/aroma. That makes sense C.Y. Thank you.

...it's because people from New Zealand are called "kiwis" the same way that people from the USA are called "yanks." Nothing to do with fruit, flavor, or aroma.

 

[Dave37]

...it's because people from New Zealand are called "kiwis" the same way that people from the USA are called "yanks." Nothing to do with fruit, flavor, or aroma.

Oh. : |

 

[Channel66]

Yeah, it's trying to figure out the interplay of simple and complex. I think petrus pale is great and it's supposedly just pils, but I always feel like I want to build the body a little more. I like dry, but not thin. Have you looked into the amount of glycerol different sacc strains produce. Chad Y says brett doesn't make glycerol which leads to thin mouthfeel without spelt, rye, oats, etc. I've guessed that maybe saison strains produce more glycerol than other sacc, hence the enhanced perception of body in very dry beers.

Glycerol is a sweet alcohol, that is very viscous. It takes a significant amount of it to actually be responsible for the mouth feel of anything that isn't coming in as dry as wine .995 or so.

You will notice a mid pallet sweetness that can be contributed to glycerol. A lot of saison yeasts do indeed produce high amounts of glycerol but the beer is still too thick at above 1.000 for it to be more than just a contributing factor in the body of the beer.

The body of a saison can be attributed to the polyphenol content (i know they are usually considered bad, but even small amounts greatly affect the protein content, and in turn affecting the apparent thickness), residual sugar, polysaccharide content, mannoproteins, and the esters that almost all of our saison strains produce in spades, Glycerol is not responsible for mouthfeel, but does play a small small part due its “sweet” mid pallet taste, beyond the flavor of the alcohol itself, it doesn't contribute to the "feel" of the beer. I think you will find that it is mostly the esters in a saison strain that contribute to the mouthfeel. But without a combination of all of these, it would appear very thin.

Brett for example will munch through complex bonds, tearing up the polyphenols, the polysach, etc in turn thinning out your beer, it has less to do with the low glycerol content than most wine and beer makers will lead you to believe. It would be great if just one thing like glycerol production could affect the mouthfeel. But in reality it is a balance of many contributing factors.

 

[Fuzzymittenbrewing]

Hard Rootbeer just about ready to hit the road (yes she's driving ) to Jolly Pumpkin Ann Arbor.

 

[mcbaumannerb]

Have fun!

 

[finsfan]

a few other brews i had last night. the shipyard was a good solid IPA but nothing special

 

[mewithstewpid]

a few other brews i had last night. the shipyard was a good solid IPA but nothing special

yeah, i dont usually like shipyard brews, but the monkey fist IPA was pretty good! it has a nice cascade hop flavor/aroma

 

[NIZZLE]

Hard Rootbeer just about ready to hit the road (yes she's driving ) to Jolly Pumpkin Ann Arbor.

Have a safe and fun trip.

 

[DisturbdChemist]

Thanks Leubega. This one was really excellent. I wish I had more to age a bit :s. Had a couple Mercenaries after and now a Brew Free or Die.

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me want that beer/beers

 

[Swarley88]

me want that beer/beers

Oh man, this was a great sour.

 

[bobmcstuff]

Bout that time again! 5pm on a Friday and I'm in the airport.

 

[bobmcstuff]

It's so malty and delicious.

 

[mcspanner]

It's so malty and delicious.

My Brother in Law loves that stuff and I must try and clone it for him to try. I always think it sounds like a gay rights parade as in " what are you wearing for London Pride this year?"

 

[bobmcstuff]

My Brother in Law loves that stuff and I must try and clone it for him to try. I always think it sounds like a gay rights parade as in " what are you wearing for London Pride this year?"

Yeah - I think it's been around a bit longer than the pride movement though!

 

[NIZZLE]

Water been in foooking court all gd morning over something that happened 10 months ago I just don't get how 4 dic k bags can jump me and I get sued over it and charges against me so hopefully by the end of the day we will have this figured out.

Edit: oh and they are trying to get me for a hate crime W.T.F.

 

[Channel66]

Water been in foooking court all gd morning over something that happened 10 months ago I just don't get how 4 dic k bags can jump me and I get sued over it and charges against me so hopefully by the end of the day we will have this figured out.

Yikes brother. Good luck!

 

[mcspanner]

Yeah - I think it's been around a bit longer than the pride movement though!

Absolutely! I suppose when it was thought up people would have been confused by the concept of a happiness parade!

 

[finsfan]

so im assuming you bet the f#%k out of these four guys and thats why they are sueing?

 

[NIZZLE]

Yikes brother. Good luck!

I think my lawyer finally is getting it through their heads 4 against 1 = self defense.

 

[DisturbdChemist]

Water been in foooking court all gd morning over something that happened 10 months ago I just don't get how 4 dic k bags can jump me and I get sued over it and charges against me so hopefully by the end of the day we will have this figured out.

Edit: oh and they are trying to get me for a hate crime W.T.F.

That sucks NIZZLE. Hope ecerything is dropped. Gotta love the sue happy country we live in. Its so retarded. Good luck!

 

[Dave37]

Water been in foooking court all gd morning over something that happened 10 months ago I just don't get how 4 dic k bags can jump me and I get sued over it and charges against me so hopefully by the end of the day we will have this figured out.

Edit: oh and they are trying to get me for a hate crime W.T.F.

**** like this makes me sick.. Lets hope sanity prevails here today and everyone of those 4 @$$holes gets it back to them 10 fold for putting everyone in that courtroom through this waste of time.

The sad and sick truth is that sometimes sanity doesnt prevail.

Sorry for the rant haha good luck NIZZLE

 

[WesleyS]

Water been in foooking court all gd morning over something that happened 10 months ago I just don't get how 4 dic k bags can jump me and I get sued over it and charges against me so hopefully by the end of the day we will have this figured out.

Edit: oh and they are trying to get me for a hate crime W.T.F.

Man, you gotta stop thinking you're tough enough to pick a fight with four guys. Who do you think you are, BillyKlubb?

Seriously, though, sorry to hear that. Hope everything works out in your favor. People are so sue happy these days and it seems the law is used to protect the criminals more than the victims.

 

[Channel66]

So this is a beer that I'm particularly proud of. I just bottled today, but this is a saison fermented with my saison yeast as12, lacto, pedio, and finished with 2 strains of brett (b and l)

I taste tested it after 12 months, it wasn't what I wanted, so I put it on some oak, letting it age a bit, tried it again at 16 months, it was much nicer, but I wanted some fruit, so I added fresh strawberries and .5lb dextrose.

Now at 18 months. This beer is sitting at .999 with a full mouthfeel,(considering its not carbed) a nice tart start and finish with some saison character throughout. This sample is a bit cloudy because it's the bottom of the bottling bucket. But I'm very very excited for this beer. It might just top my barrel aged farmhouse from '11.

 

[WesleyS]

So this is a beer that I'm particularly proud of. I just bottled today, but this is a saison fermented with my saison yeast as12, lacto, pedio, and finished with 2 strains of brett (b and l)

I taste tested it after 12 months, it wasn't what I wanted, so I put it on some oak, letting it age a bit, tried it again at 16 months, it was much nicer, but I wanted some fruit, so I added fresh strawberries and .5lb dextrose.

Now at 18 months. This beer is sitting at .999 with a full mouthfeel,(considering its not carbed) a nice tart start and finish with some saison character throughout. This sample is a bit cloudy because it's the bottom of the bottling bucket. But I'm very very excited for this beer. It might just top my barrel aged farmhouse from '11.

Sounds like you're making some good stuff up there. I need to start experimenting making more beers like that.

 

[Remmy]

Needed a cold one after cutting down maple and cherry trees today. Free firewood...more heat this winter!

 

[nukebrewer]

I'm looking forward to it. I'm thinking of doing a 50/50 barley/wheat grain bill and letting the Nelson just dominate the profile of the beer.

Nice, that sounds like it will delicious. We'll have to do some trading when I am in town in November for my brother's wedding.

 

[Remmy]

Clint hooked me up. Ivan el terrible!

12.2% ABV you can't even taste. I call it el Diablo!