Victory Summer Love

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

Hopefully I'll get to brew my recipe up next weekend or some weeknight this coming week with my brother. It's a partial mash and this is where I wound up, hoping it tastes like Summer Love

Mash

2 lbs Vienna
1.5 lbs Pilsner

Boil

4 lbs Pilsner DME
60 minute .5 oz Simcoe
30 minute .5 oz Tettnang
10 minute .5 oz Tettnang

Gonna ferment it with the Kolsch yeast from East Coast Yeast if they have it in stock at love2brew. Comes out to the right ABV and close to the right IBUs.

 

[g-star]

I had my first of the year earlier this week, such a fantastic beer. I definitely get a Kolsch or German Ale yeast characteristic out of it. Has anyone else made an attempt at this with one of these yeasts?

I've only used Cal Ale yeast in my attempts, but you raise a good point. I think my next attempt will be with WLP029.

 

[eyedoctodd]

Added my second dry hop addition of 2oz Citra today, beer tasting and smelling a lot like I remember it from last year. However, slight problem. I had a pint of this year's Summer Love last night and I think Victory has changed it all around. There is a very upfront citrus nose in the aroma which strikes me as much more than in the past, and the other thing is the bitterness has been dialed up a LOT. If I had to guess, I'd say it was pushing 45-50 IBUs. Of course, I know beer can change depending on how it's handled and served, and of course I could be wrong, but I definitely think they changed it up. Just something to consider if you're going to compare your brew to the current official product side-by-side.

 

[NervousDad]

Added my second dry hop addition of 2oz Citra today, beer tasting and smelling a lot like I remember it from last year. However, slight problem. I had a pint of this year's Summer Love last night and I think Victory has changed it all around. There is a very upfront citrus nose in the aroma which strikes me as much more than in the past, and the other thing is the bitterness has been dialed up a LOT. If I had to guess, I'd say it was pushing 45-50 IBUs. Of course, I know beer can change depending on how it's handled and served, and of course I could be wrong, but I definitely think they changed it up. Just something to consider if you're going to compare your brew to the current official product side-by-side.

Are you using straight Downingtown water or RO?

 

[greyhoundbrewing]

Downingtown water is Delaware river water. It's the best water. It tastes like.....um. Special

 

[eyedoctodd]

For the beer I mentioned that I suggested is different, that was a pint from a bar.

For this particular brew I used my tap water which shakes down like so:
(ppm)
Ca 53
Mg 28
Na 24
Cl 51
SO4 24
CaCO3 203

For my grain bill (15# Pils, 2# Vienna, 1.5# C20, 0.5# Carapils) this left me with -93 residual alkalinity (10.5 gallon batch size) (Don't use C20 - it comes out darker than you want. My LHBS was out of C10. The beer tastes great from the sample when I dry hopped.)

To the mash I added: 6g of Gypsum and 4 mL of Lactic acid.

The resultant ppm
Ca 78
Mg 28
Na 24
Cl 51
SO4 84
and a Cl:SO4 ratio of 0.61 to enhance bitterness.
Estimated mash pH was 5.58 and the thickness was 1.3 qt/#.

Let me know if there are other questions.

I use distilled when I brew a Helles or a Pilsner..

 

[g-star]

For my next attempt (sometime within the next month or so), I'm going to drop the crystal entirely. The more that I think about it, Victory is a brewery with a strong German influence, and we know the Germans are not big on crystal/caramel malts. I'm thinking:

85% Pils
10-15% Munich
5% Carapils (maybe)

Bitter with Tettnang to 35-40 IBU's
Simcoe/Amarillo in the whirlpool/dryhop
WLP029

medium sulfate water

 

[brucedelta]

Artisan? I get my grains there all the time. Mike is always helpful, and he knows he stuff. Made it easy for me when I started out

I had a Summer Love on tap at Riverstone (gotta love $3 victory brew and Buck a shuck oyster Wednesdays) the other night and decided to brew a Summer Love inspired beer this weekend. Went to Artisan and got the ingredients today for the following recipe variation that I came up with.

Anyone have last minute thoughts before I brew tomorrow? Otherwise I will report on the results.

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Love Summer
Brewer: Bruce & Lauren
Asst Brewer:
Style: Blonde Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 8.20 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.50 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.051 SG
Estimated Color: 3.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 30.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 81.8 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8 lbs Pilsen Malt 2-Row (Briess) (1.0 SRM) Grain 1 76.2 %
1 lbs Munich (Dingemans) (5.5 SRM) Grain 2 9.5 %
1 lbs Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) Grain 3 9.5 %
8.0 oz Carapils (Briess) (1.5 SRM) Grain 4 4.8 %
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 5 25.6 IBUs
0.50 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 6 1.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 2.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 9 -
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Day Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Bruce batch
Total Grain Weight: 10 lbs 8.0 oz
----------------------------
Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 15.12 qt of water at 164.0 F 152.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun, , 6.17gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:
------

 

[eyedoctodd]

I think you're going to like that but I will say this: I mashed at 150 and also had 1.051 OG and US-05 took it down to 1.005. It has been "over"-attenuating for me on most recent batches. You may want to consider upping your mash temp to say 154. My fermentation was at 64F for about 3 days until it was around 70% through the ferment then ramped it to 68 to speed it along since I needed to dry hop and keg and have it ready for a party next weekend.

 

[brucedelta]

I think you're going to like that but I will say this: I mashed at 150 and also had 1.051 OG and US-05 took it down to 1.005. It has been "over"-attenuating for me on most recent batches. You may want to consider upping your mash temp to say 154. My fermentation was at 64F for about 3 days until it was around 70% through the ferment then ramped it to 68 to speed it along since I needed to dry hop and keg and have it ready for a party next weekend.

I mashed at 153 and hit the 1.053 OG exactly, so I am happy there. Due to accidental mixing we ended up with 1# of carapils in the grain bill. I have been having good luck with the 05 yeast, and consider it my house yeast at this point. I think the beer should be well attenuated for the crisp flavor I associate with the Summer Love. I hope it gets down below 1.010, but time will tell.
I will bring you one to try at a BUZZ meeting and we can compare.

 

[EnergyGod]

Just letting everyone know, this is the next beer my father and I plan on brewing. By far my favorite summer beer! Has there been a consensus on the recipe? I've learned more about beer making in this thread, than actually brewing it. Any suggestions or pointers would be fantastic!

Right now we have:

Pilsen Light Malt 6lbs
2 Bags of Czech Saaz Hops
Pilsner Lager Yeast

Not sure if any of this stuff will work in the recipe (again we're amateurs), but it is from Midwest Supplies, we're about to order more hops and whatever is needed to get the recipe going.

 

[g-star]

This is an ale, so you definitely don't want lager yeast (especially if you're "amateurs"). Saaz hops have a distinctive character that might be appropriate as part of the hop bill, but you'll need some American hops for aroma/flavor. The Victory website specifically mentions Simcoe/Amarillo.

 

[Brewsncrabs]

Maybe I had some from a bad batch or something, but the one I had at the restaurant this past Saturday was awful. 3 of us tried it and all agreed it was awful. My friend just bought a case so I will try a bottle, but man it was bad.

 

[brucedelta]

Just letting everyone know, this is the next beer my father and I plan on brewing. By far my favorite summer beer! Has there been a consensus on the recipe? I've learned more about beer making in this thread, than actually brewing it. Any suggestions or pointers would be fantastic!

Right now we have:

Pilsen Light Malt 6lbs
2 Bags of Czech Saaz Hops
Pilsner Lager Yeast

Not sure if any of this stuff will work in the recipe (again we're amateurs), but it is from Midwest Supplies, we're about to order more hops and whatever is needed to get the recipe going.

If you are beginners you probably do not want to do a lager, it requires chilling to ferment. Victory mentions the hops they use on the website and Saaz is not one of them. While you can make a wonderful beer with Saaz, I do not think it will help you make a summer love inspired beer.
Not sure if you are looking to do all grain or extract.

I went to the Phillies game over the weekend and for those who do not know, they have a Victory Beer hall there, where summer love was on tap. A very good beer indeed. Going down to the game again tonight, so I look forward to some more summer love. They have good selection of craft beers at Citizens Bank Park this year, with all the Philly area brewers well represented, now if they could only get the beer man to hand out sly fox cans instead of those silly aluminum bottles.

 

[NervousDad]

I just had this years batch and wow the Simcoe really comes through.. I love this beer

 

[strangr419]

Anyone tried this as an extract with grains recipe. I'm hoping to brew this weekend and haven't been able to see a Summer Love extract and grains recipe. Any help you all can provide would be MUCH appreciated!

 

[temple240]

I had a Summer Love on tap at Riverstone (gotta love $3 victory brew and Buck a shuck oyster Wednesdays) the other night and decided to brew a Summer Love inspired beer this weekend. Went to Artisan and got the ingredients today for the following recipe variation that I came up with.

Anyone have last minute thoughts before I brew tomorrow? Otherwise I will report on the results.

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Love Summer
Brewer: Bruce & Lauren
Asst Brewer:
Style: Blonde Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 8.20 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.50 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.051 SG
Estimated Color: 3.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 30.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 81.8 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8 lbs Pilsen Malt 2-Row (Briess) (1.0 SRM) Grain 1 76.2 %
1 lbs Munich (Dingemans) (5.5 SRM) Grain 2 9.5 %
1 lbs Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) Grain 3 9.5 %
8.0 oz Carapils (Briess) (1.5 SRM) Grain 4 4.8 %
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 5 25.6 IBUs
0.50 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 6 1.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 2.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 9 -
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Day Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs

Mash Schedule: Bruce batch
Total Grain Weight: 10 lbs 8.0 oz
----------------------------
Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 15.12 qt of water at 164.0 F 152.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun, , 6.17gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:
------

Have you sampled this yet? I'm planning on brewing nearly the same thing this weekend.

 

[MrOH]

Met the brewer at a beer week event and he said that summer love was tettnanger, Amarillo, and citra.

 

[temple240]

That's weird, their website says Simcoe not citra. Maybe the site is out of date. I'll be using Simcoe regardless.

 

[NervousDad]

I think he may have been thinking of Head waters pale ale when he said that. I know for sure that one uses Citra and Summer love definitely has Simcoe

 

[eyedoctodd]

Just to correct a previous comment about "over-attenuation".... Turns out the FG tool for refractometers in Beersmith is not correct. My FG was actually 1.010 so a 150-152 mash was perfect.

There is a more accurate refractometer tool at seanterrill.com

 

[brucedelta]

Have you sampled this yet? I'm planning on brewing nearly the same thing this weekend.

The beer I brewed with the recipe shown in my original post came out great! I already need to brew a new batch. I took the keg to a small party where many were skeptical of homebrew, but they went back for more and more of this brew.

The beer tastes close to summer love based on my beer memory. I have a couple bottles of summer love in the fridge and have an official side by side comparison scheduled for monday, but bottom line is do not hesitate to brew this beer, it is good.

 

[greyhoundbrewing]

Does anyone think this years summer love is different from last years?

 

[EnergyGod]

Does anyone think this years summer love is different from last years?

Yes I have, and I think it tastes a bit different, almost more of a bite. But personally I like it this year a lot! Also, my father and I got a bunch of different hops you guys suggested in this forum, so thanks! I'll let you know our recipe/game plan.

 

[strangr419]

I've taken Brucedelta's AG recipe and come up with this extract and grains summer love clone. Please critique:

6.6 lbs Pilsen light LME
1.0 lbs Munich grains
1.0 lbs Vienna
.5 lbs. carapils
0.5 Chinook (had to sub for Simcoe LHBS was out of Simcoe) @ 90
0.5 Tettnang @ 10
0.5 Amarillo @ 5
0.5 Tettnang @ 0
Sad ale US-05
0.5 Tettnang dry hop
0.5 Amarillo dry hop
0.5 Chinook dry hop

Thoughts? Comments? Much appreciated. I'm set to brew tomorrow. Ill let everyone know how it comes out in 2 months.

 

[orangemen5]

I've taken Brucedelta's AG recipe and come up with this extract and grains summer love clone. Please critique:

6.6 lbs Pilsen light LME
1.0 lbs Munich grains
1.0 lbs Vienna
.5 lbs. carapils
0.5 Chinook (had to sub for Simcoe LHBS was out of Simcoe) @ 90
0.5 Tettnang @ 10
0.5 Amarillo @ 5
0.5 Tettnang @ 0
Sad ale US-05
0.5 Tettnang dry hop
0.5 Amarillo dry hop
0.5 Chinook dry hop

Thoughts? Comments? Much appreciated. I'm set to brew tomorrow. Ill let everyone know how it comes out in 2 months.

I'm pretty sure munich and Vienna need to be mashed. You'll get some color from steeping but no full conversion. They do make a munich extract.

 

[sugrless]

Sorry if I am missing something but what hops were used to dry hop? 2oz of Citra?

 

[sugrless]

Hopefully I'll get to brew my recipe up next weekend or some weeknight this coming week with my brother. It's a partial mash and this is where I wound up, hoping it tastes like Summer Love

Mash

2 lbs Vienna
1.5 lbs Pilsner

Boil

4 lbs Pilsner DME
60 minute .5 oz Simcoe
30 minute .5 oz Tettnang
10 minute .5 oz Tettnang

Gonna ferment it with the Kolsch yeast from East Coast Yeast if they have it in stock at love2brew. Comes out to the right ABV and close to the right IBUs.

HoppyHippo - how did it turn out? close to a clone?

 

[NewJersey]

Have you sampled this yet? I'm planning on brewing nearly the same thing this weekend.

looked up summer love on the forum and this thread pops up. i now know what i'll be brewing this saturday!
thanks all

 

[joe10pa]

At what point should I dry hop the clone recipe. I've heard anywhere between 2 weeks and 2 days before
Bottling. It is in primary now and active fermentation is done. I was going to leave it there for about three weeks. Just not sure when to add the rest of the hops. Any suggestions?


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