Trademark Disputes

[lazerviking]

You didn't offend me. I just wondered about the hypocrisy and the trend, what it is rooted in. Was hoping to hear an explanation based in reason, specifics etc. . . but oh well.

Class action lawsuits can help people who can't afford to challenge a large corporation. Exxon, Wal Mart etc. . . they have deep pockets that the average person can't possibly envision going up against all alone. Multi national billion $$$ corporations hate class action lawsuits.

Every profession has bad apples.

I'm not a plaintiffs lawyer but I'll add that most plaintiffs attorneys couldn't bother with "frivolous" lawsuits because if they are indeed frivolous, the results will not justify the time they will need to spend to bring the case in the first place. Not to mention that there are rules of conduct that prevent most truly non-meritorious claims from being filed.

In my experience, whenever I have met someone with negative connotations of lawyers, they themselves have never had any negative experience with a lawyer. Just don't get it.

 

[HopHeadScott]

This guy is one I can think of who gets under my skin. He's constantly going after businesses and I know for a fact that if a business isn't compliant with his request for money, paid direct to him, then he files suit. I personally know a business owner who he rattled with legal papers wanting to extort $5K from his business to not file suit.
Here's my bad apple, I apologize if I offended the lawyers here who do the peoples work.

http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/article/20110508/NEWS/110509912

 

[lazerviking]

This guy is one I can think of who gets under my skin. He's constantly going after businesses and I know for a fact that if a business isn't compliant with his request for money, paid direct to him, then he files suit. I personally know a business owner who he rattled with legal papers wanting to extort $5K from his business to not file suit.
Here's my bad apple, I apologize if I offended the lawyers here who do the peoples work.

http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/article/20110508/NEWS/110509912

Sounds like your beef is with the law itself. For better or for worse, the ADA is enforced through private law suits.

 

[HopHeadScott]

I'm taking the 5th from here out! HA!

 

[Treebs]

So she doesn't want to soil the Schlafly name with beer, but she's perfectly OK making these kind of statements:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/who-wants-increase-the-pay-gap-between

 

[nanobrew1]

So she doesn't want to soil the Schlafly name with beer, but she's perfectly OK making these kind of statements:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/who-wants-increase-the-pay-gap-between

while Schlafly might be (okay, IS) crazy, I would not rely on anything coming from Maddow, especially related to Republican views. That would be like listening to Hannity weighing in on something Obama said or does. It is just to stir up the hives.

 

[Jake1605]

I dig Schlafly Kolsch (bottle, stay away from the tap).

 

[SeaWatchman]

FFS...

Lagunitas Files Legal Complaint Against Sierra Nevada

 

[Rau711]

FFS...

Lagunitas Files Legal Complaint Against Sierra Nevada

I know every time I see IPA under the Sierra Nevada banner I think, Lagunitas IPA.

 

[bsc]

WHATEVER KEEPS TONY MAGEE POSTING ON TWEETER

 

[Sage1]

I’M SO CONFUSED

 

[Os]

these guys want to cry that the "beer nerds" are big ol hipsters that just want the next craze...
this isn't even a craft for them anymore... it's a business... it's a big business...

I shall dub them big crafty breweries

 

[LukeAleTime]

I would quite like to try that SN beer tho.

That's all I really get out of this.

Ok I guess one more thing... the kerning and block lettering is used in almost every IPA initialism beer and non beer. It's just basic design.

 

[lazerviking]

I don't care about companies defending their marks, but from what I'm seeing, this one doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

 

[JulianB1]

I don't care about companies defending their marks, but from what I'm seeing, this one doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

Dude, did you -see- that kerning between the P and the A?!

 

[Lizard King]

Between the P and the A?

http://morningafter.gawker.com/allison-williams-gets-her-ass-eaten-to-the-sounds-of-pe-1678900471

 

[spicecowboy]

Man, I feel like such a sucker.

All this time I thought I was buying Lagunitas IPA, when actually it could have been literally any other IPA as they're impossible to tell apart.

 

[arren]

If Lagunitas is going to litigate over that ********, I can't wait to see Green Flash flip their **** over this:

 

[gtx281]

I like most of his beer, but Tony really seems full of ****.

 

[sacrelicio]

FFS...

Lagunitas Files Legal Complaint Against Sierra Nevada

"Additionally, Lagunitas notes the “Hop Hunter” branding appears to be a departure from usual Sierra Nevada labeling"

OK here's the labeling:

Ummm....Sierra Nevada banner on the top...barley stalks and hop clusters around the outside of the image...banner at the bottom...how the **** is this a significant departure?

 

[drgarage1]

Lagunitas still might win this. Ludicrous as it might seem, Sierra really exposed themselves by choosing to make IPA that bold and big and central on the 6 pack. It's obviously different, but in trademark disputes, you have to protect yourself just to make sure it's still enforceable.

 

[tinypyramids1]

in trademark disputes, you have to protect yourself just to make sure it's still enforceable.

pretty much this. all the articles i've read about it said that they tried to work it out outside of courts, which is about the minimum i hope a brewery would do before filing suit. i will continue to buy beer from both companies.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Lagunitas still might win this. Ludicrous as it might seem, Sierra really exposed themselves by choosing to make IPA that bold and big and central on the 6 pack. It's obviously different, but in trademark disputes, you have to protect yourself just to make sure it's still enforceable.

Litigation culture in this country sucks.

 

[drgarage1]

Litigation culture in this country sucks.

It so does! And if Lagunitas doesn't do this kind of thing religiously, there's nothing stopping AB InBev from releasing a 6-Pack that looks almost identical to IPA.

 

[rainer1]

pretty much this. all the articles i've read about it said that they tried to work it out outside of courts, which is about the minimum i hope a brewery would do before filing suit. i will continue to buy beer from both companies.

Super disappointed in Lagunitas.

 

[SirDickButts]

 

[thebandit1]

Litigation culture in this country sucks.

Hey, hey, hey. Hey! I studied this stuff in law school! Seriously. I did. With that said, beats me. The SN label does look like it could be a collaboration with Lagunitas.

I just keep waiting for Cycle to sue SN over Nooner.

 

[drgarage1]

Hey, hey, hey. Hey! I studied this stuff in law school! Seriously. I did. With that said, beats me. The SN label does look like it could be a collaboration with Lagunitas.

I just keep waiting for Cycle to sue SN over Nooner.

And Cycle would have more grounds to stand on if they had packaged Nooner before Sierra did.

 

[jbeezification1]

Apparently Lagunitas is going to drop the suit

https://twitter.com/lagunitast/status/555216772022808576

 

[rainer1]

Today, January 13th 2015, has been the worst day ever in 23 years of growing my brewery. Worst. Growing a biz involves defending a biz...

https://twitter.com/lagunitasT/status/555216102997762048

Defending a biz requires answers to Hard Questions. Q's like: Are our Foundations Strong? Are our Flavors right? Are our Labels Defensible?

https://twitter.com/lagunitasT/status/555216318513676288

There r many Courts in the world. For me, over the last month, one Court was a series of rebuffed phone calls. Another was a court of law...

https://twitter.com/lagunitasT/status/555216516208025600

Today was in the hands of the ultimate court; The Court of Public Opinion and in it I got an answer to my Question; Our IPA's TM has limits.

https://twitter.com/lagunitasT/status/555216638643933184

I don't know every answer beforehand, so I feel around for the edges and try to learn. Today I was seriously schooled & I heard you well…

https://twitter.com/lagunitasT/status/555216691336982528

Tomorrow mornin we'll Drop the Infringement Suit & get back to answering other Questions. I don't think I was wrong for wanting to know cuz…

https://twitter.com/lagunitasT/status/555216772022808576

I had to know the Answer, but the Answer came much sooner than I thought and in a different Court than I thought it would. Can I say thanks?

https://twitter.com/lagunitasT/status/555216841493078017