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I got half way through list then got bored. Most of the phrases I have seen used on HBT so not sure why the list is being singled out. My unjustified pet peeve is "crushable" for session beers. Seen that numerous times on this board.

Every hobby has slang or similar. When friends and I talk about homebrewing with non brewers they phase out and rightfully mock us. "I'm brewing an oatmeal stout this weekend with multi step mash and EKG. Using 002 and fermenting at 18 degrees. Then going to transfer to spunding vessel with 4 points to go". Absolute gobbledygook!
 
As someone in their mid twenties who loves beer and the art of brewing and who has lived in the most hipstery of hipster neighborhoods (but not a hipster himself) in Brooklyn, I have not heard of many of these. I CALL SATIRE!!!
 
As someone in their mid twenties who loves beer and the art of brewing and who has lived in the most hipstery of hipster neighborhoods (but not a hipster himself) in Brooklyn, I have not heard of many of these. I CALL SATIRE!!!

I've never heard most of these either. And as far as my beer drinking group goes.... well... The immortal "Lawrence" from "Office Space" says it best...…

 
On a related front, say the word "sparge" or "sparging" around someone who isn't a homebrewer and see the reaction you get....

Fads come, and they go. That's why they are fads. I keep hoping the gose fad will go away, and know it will someday. As a former bartender and current fifty-something avid homebrewer, I've seen so many stupid fads have their heyday (red bull and vodka, anyone? Or perhaps a moscow mule?). A few years ago when I was still behind the taps, seeing 20-somethings get offended when we didn't have PBR on tap about made me fall on the floor laughing. Suggest one of the craft beers we had on tap to these children, and watch their collective noses about hit the ceiling. These same kids are now on a witch hunt for whatever beer will give them the most "cred" with their peers (if that is still the term, I'm old and decrepit), the more hard-to-find the better, makes me about hysterical. Getting old has its rewards.
 
Happening to live and work in the middle of NEIPA HYPE country this is all too real and is certainly not satire. Think of it as a window into the world of the NEIPA crowd. There is a beer club at my office and the discussions and samples are almost always around the juiciest, haziest and dankest NEIPAs in the area. Some of the people I work with will pop out of the office around 10:30am to wait inline at Trillium for an hour or two on release day to get whatever new item they are selling. The bartering over trading beers in their collection is unreal too; it almost reminds me of trading pokemon or magic cards growing up.

My only concern with this fad is that all beer styles are slowly morphing into NEIPAs. I had a Lord Hobo Angelica Wheat a couple days ago at a bar and thought they might have given me one of the IPAs on draft. Even looking at the description of the beer on their website it's basically an IPA with a large percentage of wheat in the malt bill. "A New England take on a classic beer style, Angelica offers the refreshing drinkability of a wheat beer combined with fruit juice characteristics and elegant haze." ugh...

In the end though, it gives me a few more people to talk beer with so I'm content. I get to occasionally toss in some little technical nuggets and get to drink decent beer once a week with them and we do have things besides NEIPAs some weeks.
 
When I first started brewing I didn't like IPAs at all, but over the course of a couple of dozen batches I am getting more and more into hops. The resulting beers are what laypersons default to calling an IPA because of dominant hop flavor, but in reality they are just hop-forward versions of a bunch of different styles. I think its a mistake to label a highly hopped porter a "black IPA", this over simplification encourages ambivalence about the range of historical and regional styles. If I walked into a brewpub and just asked for an IPA they would stare at me with a blank expression. "Which IPA? We have a dozen on tap!" "I'll take the black IPA that is actually a Belgian stout with a bunch of hops tossed in." Call them what they are and note the degree of hoppiness, otherwise you're just dumbing down your audience.
 
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I would argue that the craze is actually bringing in more people and educating them. Yea hop forward is the norm at the moment, but it's working to draw in new people. I know a lot of people who were ambivalent about beer forever, until someone handed them a Tree House, or a Trillium, or some other local NEIPA. They'd always been mainstream beer drinkers, maybe venturing to sam adams levels. the NEIPAs are approchable if nothing else. Now I see these same people branching out and trying a lot of things. They still go crazy over anything NEIPA, but they're exploring classic German styles, belgian, dark beer, etc. Your opinion and observations may vary. That's just what I've seen living in the heart of the NEIPA HYPE! region.

I totally get why it's annoying to people who've enjoyed craft beer for years and years and now are seeing variety shift toward HOP ALL THE THINGS however.
 
I like different and unusual ales and beers; I used to drink a lot of Rogue stouts. Lately I have been downing IPAs of all sorts. I also like brown ale and rye ale. We were at one of our favorite brew places the other night. I usually get either JAWN or coffee JAWN. They had a blueberry gose; I was intrigued, because in Massachusetts I had had a Wachusett blueberry ale (thirty years ago I used to ski at Wachusett; how nostalgic!) that was incredible; a soft, velvety blueberry top note over a very nice hoppy ale. I had never tasted gose; I don't know what it is and I don't want to know; I couldn't drink it! It tasted like blueberries and seaweed. I asked for a nice JAWN, followed by a coffee JAWN, and was happy. They didn't charge us for the gose, which sat like an unhappy orphan on the table until I asked them to get it out of my sight.
 
I like different and unusual ales and beers; I used to drink a lot of Rogue stouts. Lately I have been downing IPAs of all sorts. I also like brown ale and rye ale. We were at one of our favorite brew places the other night. I usually get either JAWN or coffee JAWN. They had a blueberry gose; I was intrigued, because in Massachusetts I had had a Wachusett blueberry ale (thirty years ago I used to ski at Wachusett; how nostalgic!) that was incredible; a soft, velvety blueberry top note over a very nice hoppy ale. I had never tasted gose; I don't know what it is and I don't want to know; I couldn't drink it! It tasted like blueberries and seaweed. I asked for a nice JAWN, followed by a coffee JAWN, and was happy. They didn't charge us for the gose, which sat like an unhappy orphan on the table until I asked them to get it out of my sight.
LOL Yeah, I've only had one or two encounters with Gose, both awful. A salty, soured, vomitous cesspool. Randomly adding coldbrew coffee to it as if that could cover the nasty taste only made it worse. It must be an acquired taste like stinky cheeses; my favorite when we lived in Europe was Appenzeller. The first time I smelled it I thought immediately that the milk had been tainted with manure, but the first taste was out of this world; sweet, tangy, musty, earthy and nutty. I started enjoying the younger, more tame 3 month aged silver label Appenzeller, then the cheese monger at the village market turned me on to the older and funkier 6 month old gold label, and eventually I ended up savoring small, rank wedges of my personal favorite, the 9+ month old black label Extra. So I like funky, barnyard flavors in cheese but Gose is a step too far, at least for now. Maybe I need to try it again?
 
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Partially on account of this thread, I picked up a $22 4 pack of one of these hip hop new bevs on way home. Tasty, 8.8 ABV and listed 130 IBU, mostly late process hops, judging by the taste. It was very good, not sure I'd call it beer though, something else, but still good.
 
Look at it this way, some people eat 20 year old rotten duck eggs and say they are tasty. Sucking down a turpentine flavored hop bomb can't be as bad as that. Ok, i'm kidding. Yes it can.


The younger generation eats tide pods. Probably because they aren't old enough to buy hop bombs and hazy's, and haven't hit puberty so they can't grow a neck beard.
 
you might be right
I seen the latest BYO magazine and they have an article on pastry beers, I immediately thought of Mel.
https://byo.com/article/pastry-beers/
I, too thought of smelly mell when I saw the article. Except that those recipes approach the jubject with subtlety and a judicious use of specialty grains and spices; not crudely throwing into the mash a buttload of 2nd hand defective cupcakes. The BYO recipes can rightly be called pastry beers while @ismellweird brews what could rightly be called "Betty Crocker's Crapper" or "Dolly Madison's Dumper".
 
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I wouldn't use words like "cesspool" or "vomitous"; I enjoy stinky cheeses. I just though this gose tasted yucky. It didn't nauseate me; it just tasted bad.
No, I'll stick with vomitous cesspool. We are talking about Gose, an intentionally disgusting style. When, where, and why did salt make it into the recipe?? Wazzup with that?
 
To be fair, I don't do Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat or anything (had to ask my wife what else there was besides FB and Twitter). This site is all of those rolled into one for me.
I have only heard of a couple of the terms, "flocc" comes to mind.
I've never had a NEIPA but maybe I'll try one if someone brings that to a gathering. And I've only been aware of NEIPA for about three months, having seen it mentioned here.
Different world.
Edit: Looked when I joined so I've known about NEIPA for two months or so. Same with citra hops. Never heard of them prior. I guess I never noticed.

Grab some beer from Old Nation!
They make delicious examples of NEIP. Their M-43 should be available at any of your local liquor or grocery stores
 
Grab some beer from Old Nation!
They make delicious examples of NEIP. Their M-43 should be available at any of your local liquor or grocery stores
I really do feel the need to try this style. I'll google. living where I do, there's a ton of beer choices. Thanks.
 
Future juicewolf in the making, hows your neckbeard coming? One of us, one of us.
I'm not sure about that but I see from the photos on here that the NEIPAs are, or can be, cloudy? I like that. And "juicewolf"? Who doesn't like a nickname that has "wolf" in it?
Edit: So, how many years behind am I with regard to NEIPAs being a thing?
 
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