kanzimonson
Well-Known Member
Just wanted to get your attention.
But seriously, "cloying" is the most overused word in homebrewing. I think crystal-malt haters throw this word around so much when it comes to giving advice on recipes. For example, check out this recipe:
9.37# Maris Otter
1.1# crystal 75
.55# crystal 120
20g roast barley
I guarantee if I posted this for critique someone would try and convince me it will turn out too sweet. Guess what, it's the recipe for Stone Levitation - one of the driest amber ales I've had.
Or how about:
14# two row
1.05# Munich
1.4# crystal 45
1.05# carastan
Having a heart attack yet? Oskar Blues Gordon Ale.
It's very rare where I've had a beer I thought was too sweet. Oskar Blues Old Chub is about the sweetest I can think of, and I still will drink it.
As far as I can tell, a beer that you expect to finish with a lot of residual sweetness can always be balanced with more hops, high alcohol, or both (like World Wide Stout). The only beers that truly deserve the description of cloying is something that doesn't attenuate fully.
Discuss.
But seriously, "cloying" is the most overused word in homebrewing. I think crystal-malt haters throw this word around so much when it comes to giving advice on recipes. For example, check out this recipe:
9.37# Maris Otter
1.1# crystal 75
.55# crystal 120
20g roast barley
I guarantee if I posted this for critique someone would try and convince me it will turn out too sweet. Guess what, it's the recipe for Stone Levitation - one of the driest amber ales I've had.
Or how about:
14# two row
1.05# Munich
1.4# crystal 45
1.05# carastan
Having a heart attack yet? Oskar Blues Gordon Ale.
It's very rare where I've had a beer I thought was too sweet. Oskar Blues Old Chub is about the sweetest I can think of, and I still will drink it.
As far as I can tell, a beer that you expect to finish with a lot of residual sweetness can always be balanced with more hops, high alcohol, or both (like World Wide Stout). The only beers that truly deserve the description of cloying is something that doesn't attenuate fully.
Discuss.