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I feel like every time Rick gets in a fist fight he gets his ass kicked. Shane, The Governor almost beat him to death the porch dick more than held his own.

No sh*t!

As they fought, I kind of judged it like an MMA match, and Rick was losing. No control. I remember telling my wife, if Rick is going to fight without a gun, he might want to pick up some BJJ lessons (that floccin town seems to have everything else!)
 
I was a little puzzled about the progress of the fight, considering Rick's experience. But I also realize that the other guy is much bigger, and full of his own rage. I also think that Rick was not reacting like a trained officer, but wildly pissed off. I've seen guys lose their self control in a fight. Part of it is that the other guy has had it so good since the apocalypse, and doesn't appreciate his wife. Rick's loss makes that harder for him to bear.
 
Rick's a tiny dude. I've thought from the beginning that Rick was an odd choice for the lead character, especially the more physical confrontations he has.

If he were always kicking ass easily, it would be harder to believe. I'm glad they're at least realistic in this sense, with not having him always win, or at least not easily so. Skills and experience count a lot in fighting... But so does physical size, which is why there are weight classes in boxing, wrestling, MMA, etc.
 
If physical size determined the dominant, tyreese wouldn't have been such a wuss.

When Tyreese wanted to, he could kick a lot of ass. Remember that horde of walkers he hammered through last season? Not to mention him hulking out on Terminus baby threatener guy and the zombies around the shack. Tyreese's problem was that he didn't have any killer instinct, physically he could get things done when he put his mind to it.
 
When Tyreese wanted to, he could kick a lot of ass. Remember that horde of walkers he hammered through last season? Not to mention him hulking out on Terminus baby threatener guy and the zombies around the shack. Tyreese's problem was that he didn't have any killer instinct, physically he could get things done when he put his mind to it.

Thank you. You just accentuated my point. The guy was an absolute hulk. But it didn't make him the dominating force he could have been.
 
Thank you. You just accentuated my point. The guy was an absolute hulk. But it didn't make him the dominating force he could have been.

Misread your line there, I thought it only referred to fighting. Yeah, in group dynamics, Tyreese was more of a follower/adviser.
 
I was always rooting for Shane over Rick because Rick was living in a world that no longer existed. On that note they should just strong arm Alexandria. It's the only way
 
Wow!!!! What a way to end the season!!

What really pisses me off though is all the commercials. I guarantee they made the finale 90 minutes just so they could add an extra 15 minutes of commercials knowing there would be 15 million plus viewers.
 
Yep. Pretty cool. Sasha goes Full Metal Jacket, Rick goes A Few Good Men, Gabriel's gone bye bye, what have you got Egon? But Glen should have capped that loser. It's all fun and games until you shoot me. Then the gloves are off.
 
Whoa.

Morgan is The Book of Eli.

The show has turned to be about a survival city instead of a band of nomads. But for how long? How hard core will Alexandria become?

I wonder if the Wolves realize three people defeated their trap. And did Daryl and Aaron not notice the cans on strings?

PS
I'd bone Scarol.
 
I'm glad Morgan is back and hopefully will remain with the group and grow to be a strong character. I really thought he was going to be a gonner based on those dismembered limbs from the previous episode. The opening scene made me cringe just waiting for Morgan to be shot.
 
Opening scene was awesome, that guy gives me the chills. Don't know if anyone watched the final seconds they show the red poncho guy as a zombie with a wolves not far written on a car.

I'm glad they still have the camp, I was bummed when the lost terminus so quickly.
 
I can't wait to see what happens next. Morgan's mantra of "All life is precious" throughout the episode was glaring. His first image of Rick after all this time is of him executing someone while covered in blood. Should be interesting.

In Talking Dead, Norman Reedus gave the perspective that Darryl might be thinking that they're taking Alexandria. The last time he spoke to Rick, the thought was that they'd just take over if the Alexandria folks weren't falling in line. Now, I don't think Darryl is just going to go in guns (or bows) blazing, but who knows.
 
The thing about The Walking Dead, is:

They can be in the middle of nowhere, with noting going on, rest for one second and be surrounded by "Walkers" then they can be in the middle of a zombie fight, and pause for x-number of minute consoling a dying friend and nothing happens.

I love the show by the way.
 
Did anybody else think anything about Gabriel not getting any blood on his white shirt? I had an idea in my head that he was going to call himself gods assassin. After ripping the walkers head off, and smashing the corpse brains he remained "pure." After the way he entered the gates and had that look on his face I thought he was going on a killing spree and Rick would be right about an eye for an eye justice.
 
It's an interesting way to end the season, the show reiterates that "Rick is right, even when he's wrong". Pete went all stupid and killed Reg, so Rick had to kill him. The soft Alexandrians were too lax with the gate guard, so walkers got in and Rick had to kill them. Like I said earlier, Rick wasn't wrong last episode, he was just doing things for the wrong reasons. The Wolves look to be the next big baddies, very pumped for next season.
 
Do we absolutely know that Rick shot Pete? Don't recall seeing a dead Pete, is it possible Rick was just giving him a warning shot?
 
Do we know absolutely? No. But do we really think Rick just fired a "warning shot" at a guy held down on the ground after Deanna told him to "do it"? I'm fairly certain porch dick is dead.
 
Do we absolutely know that Rick shot Pete? Don't recall seeing a dead Pete, is it possible Rick was just giving him a warning shot?

Pete was in the "In Memoriam" segment on Talking Dead, FWIW.

Chris Hardwick also publicly apologized for coining the name "Porch Dick". :D
 
Wow!!!! What a way to end the season!!



What really pisses me off though is all the commercials. I guarantee they made the finale 90 minutes just so they could add an extra 15 minutes of commercials knowing there would be 15 million plus viewers.


Prob so. You could always pay to stream or DVR and start halfway thru and play catch up.
 
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