The Saison Thread

[iong516]

I love SP Biere du Pays, it's crushable. If anyone's interested I'd be willing to do a GPIUFMB or two. They have bottles to go at the SP Cellar right now, 2pp, $20 a pop. Let me know!

Yes please!

 

[caaam]

I love SP Biere du Pays, it's crushable. If anyone's interested I'd be willing to do a GPIUFMB or two. They have bottles to go at the SP Cellar right now, 2pp, $20 a pop. Let me know!

Surely missed the boat here. A damn shame, as I love SP saisons. Strongly ISO a StL regular for the non-fruited stuff

 

[Treebs]

Every time I find myself getting caught up in the hard to acquire saison game I remember this is on the shelf and I forget about everything else.

 

[FTowne1]

Every time I find myself getting caught up in the hard to acquire saison game I remember this is on the shelf and I forget about everything else.

Das it mane!

 

[Dpaquet]

Every time I find myself getting caught up in the hard to acquire saison game I remember this is on the shelf and I forget about everything else.

One of the only beer i buy by the case a couple of Times a year. Always the same and never disappoint.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

Every time I find myself getting caught up in the hard to acquire saison game I remember this is on the shelf and I forget about everything else.

Was lucky enough to try a super fresh (within a month of bottling IIRC) bottle of Saison Dupont with fear025 and trickytunadicky when they did the RB International Secret Santa about 3-4 years ago. Unreal how hop forward and bitter it was compared to the beer we get, also extremely tasty.

The Elmwood Park Binnys manager back in the day used to love Saison Dupont, so he would take all of it and store it unopened from the case box in the cooler, best bottles I ever had. Sadly he is no longer employed there and they are dying on the shelves in artificial light.

 

[Thorpe]

It's really weird to me how few American makers of saisons use hops to control their acidity levels. Saisons should ultimately be quite balanced, and this was historically done by using a huge amount of low-alpha hops that kept acidity down, or at least slowed its progress, while letting the brett set the initial character. Older bottles would go sourer in time, and then get blended back in. It just makes sense.

Agree, though unfortunately this isn't limited to saisons. Most American breweries making sours, wilds, or whatever you want to call them also have issues keeping acidity levels in check such that it becomes the dominant character rather than being complementary to other fermentation characteristics.

 

[Thorpe]

Was lucky enough to try a super fresh (within a month of bottling IIRC) bottle of Saison Dupont with fear025 and trickytunadicky when they did the RB International Secret Santa about 3-4 years ago. Unreal how hop forward and bitter it was compared to the beer we get, also extremely tasty.

The Elmwood Park Binnys manager back in the day used to love Saison Dupont, so he would take all of it and store it unopened from the case box in the cooler, best bottles I ever had. Sadly he is no longer employed there and they are dying on the shelves in artificial light.

Come over for a glass of the Dupont Amy and I normally have on tap. At least the kegs in the U.S. are usually quite fresh

 

[Gus13]

Agree, though unfortunately this isn't limited to saisons. Most American breweries making sours, wilds, or whatever you want to call them also have issues keeping acidity levels in check such that it becomes the dominant character rather than being complementary to other fermentation characteristics.

This is why I like blending best! My home culture became overly acidic and I couldn't keep it in check. Now I just blend a little bit of the mature sour beer in with a hoppy saison and boom! Something I learned from many places (your blog included) back in the day! haha

 

[Calcifer]

More Brew Gentlemen.

 

[holldy01]

More Brew Gentlemen.

Do they have bottles to go on a pretty consistent basis or are they all special releases/more hard to get?

 

[Calcifer]

Do they have bottles to go on a pretty consistent basis or are they all special releases/more hard to get?

Right now I can walk in and pick up Ligne Claire, Mosaic Saison, and Homegrown Saison with no limits and no hassle. I believe their Grisette called Runaway (clocking in around 4%) is bottled and conditioning now as well.

 

[holldy01]

Ok. Thank you. I wasnt sure if it was like Tired Hands where their shelf bottles are easy to grab but they are not always available or they were constantly there and easy to get. I need to check them out next time I am out that way.

 

[Snarf1]

It's really weird to me how few American makers of saisons use hops to control their acidity levels. Saisons should ultimately be quite balanced, and this was historically done by using a huge amount of low-alpha hops that kept acidity down, or at least slowed its progress, while letting the brett set the initial character. Older bottles would go sourer in time, and then get blended back in. It just makes sense.

Is there a recently uncovered cache of historical saison brewing documents of which I am unaware?

 

[drgarage1]

Is there a recently uncovered cache of historical saison brewing documents of which I am unaware?

Only Yvan's chapter.

 

[PHBoiler]

Shambolic from Tired Hands is a damn revelation. Apparently Dorothy should utilize a pairing of Nelson Sauvin and Simcoe because Shambolic was the best "hoppy" saison I've had this side of Transient Obelus Galaxy (oaked or non-oaked). The feedback I got at the Transient release where I shared this beer was pretty much in line with my opinion as well. Tropical fruits, nice Brett presence, and wonderful carb with a dry finish. 500 mL at 6.5%. I wonder if this is something Tired Hands brews frequently and/or how available it is/was. Definitely ISO.

 

[Evahflow]

Shambolic from Tired Hands is a damn revelation. Apparently Dorothy should utilize a pairing of Nelson Sauvin and Simcoe because Shambolic was the best "hoppy" saison I've had this side of Transient Obelus Galaxy (oaked or non-oaked). The feedback I got at the Transient release where I shared this beer was pretty much in line with my opinion as well. Tropical fruits, nice Brett presence, and wonderful carb with a dry finish. 500 mL at 6.5%. I wonder if this is something Tired Hands brews frequently and/or how available it is/was. Definitely ISO.

Shambolic is brewed pretty frequently at the Fermentaria but not as often available in bottles. They have a ton of stuff bottle conditioning now though and I'm pretty sure that is one of them.

 

[holldy01]

Shambolic from Tired Hands is a damn revelation. Apparently Dorothy should utilize a pairing of Nelson Sauvin and Simcoe because Shambolic was the best "hoppy" saison I've had this side of Transient Obelus Galaxy (oaked or non-oaked). The feedback I got at the Transient release where I shared this beer was pretty much in line with my opinion as well. Tropical fruits, nice Brett presence, and wonderful carb with a dry finish. 500 mL at 6.5%. I wonder if this is something Tired Hands brews frequently and/or how available it is/was. Definitely ISO.

Shambolic is brewed pretty frequently at the Fermentaria but not as often available in bottles. They have a ton of stuff bottle conditioning now though and I'm pretty sure that is one of them.

Yeah its often at the ferm and they seem to send it out to various places that also growler it so a bottle might be a bit harder to come across but growlers shouldnt be too big of an issue

 

[iong516]

Last chance to really proper this glass ?for now?

Xpost to DDT, proper glassware, etc...

 

[Gus13]

Last chance to really proper this glass ?for now?

Xpost to DDT, proper glassware, etc...

I've got one bottle left as well. Good stuff.

 

[Farnsworth]

Stumbled upon some year and a half old Classique... Holey moley this is good. Dried out into a crusher of a saison.

I would take this over Apex Predator every damn time.

Strait up scrumtious... (quirk6)

 

[SSTroller]

would take this over Apex Predator every damn time.

You bite your tongue, Sir!

 

[Farnsworth]

You bite your tongue, Sir!

Please don't hate me...

 

[archagon]

where is the unlike button

 

[holldy01]

Please don't hate me...

 

[SSTroller]

Please don't hate me...

I'll make sure to bring a can of tuna to blend it with to change your mind

 

[Farnsworth]

I'll make sure to bring a can of tuna to blend it with to change your mind

Lets do a side by side with canned salmon!

 

[Gus13]

Very simple yet very tasty.

 

[holldy01]

Shameless self plug. My Monthly Endless LIF will be heavy on the saisons so y'all should check it out.

http://www.talkbeer.com/community/threads/monthly-endless-lif-march-2016.31747/

 

[cry me]

get excited, saison fans