Double IPA Sunny D IPA

[multipass82]

The 1LB shows as unavailable for me. I did just grab what looks like the last 8oz of it though in 4oz packages. Thanks!

 

[m00ps]

The 1LB shows as unavailable for me. I did just grab what looks like the last 8oz of it though in 4oz packages. Thanks!

Oh crap, I actually mightve grabbed the last pound. I got the package yesterday from UPS. Hopefully, they release it again. Its a really great hop. I don;t think it would be too hard to substitute though

 

[multipass82]

No problem. I got the 8oz of it, should be enough for a couple batches of this if I can get the first batch to turn out. Which I hope it does. I have been looking for something like this to recreate what I have been getting from the East Coast IPA's lately with that Orange Juice look and the juicy flavor. This recipe looks like it is going to give me that x10, can't wait.

 

[multipass82]

Also, I usually just slow carb in the keg. With the keg hop addition, do you just drop those hops in, hookup the gas, put it in the fridge and call it good? Or do you have a process for the keg addition? I have never hopped in the keg before.

 

[m00ps]

Also, I usually just slow carb in the keg. With the keg hop addition, do you just drop those hops in, hookup the gas, put it in the fridge and call it good? Or do you have a process for the keg addition? I have never hopped in the keg before.

I use a weighted-down muslin bag, tied to the outside handle of the keg with unflavored dental floss. The floss just goes up through the keg lid and doesnt prevent it from sealing. I have multiple CO2 tnaks and regulators, so my kegs will sit for a few weeks on the hops at room temp and 35psi until a spot opens up in the kegerator. I think you could put the hops in, fill, and chill/carb, but the hop character from the keg hops would take much longer to come through

I always use whole hops for my keg hops, but ive heard multiple people using pellets and having good results.

 

[m00ps]

So I just kegged the most recent batch of this and its fully carbed now. I switched up a few things with the hop schedule but kept the grains and yeasts the same. Its not nearly as harsh as the last one at the time of tapping. The last one took a week of settling out hop material to not have an abrasive burn in the back of your throat.

It still needs a few days to calm down but man, its some potent stuff. Its got a pungent sticky resinous flavor in addition to the orange (likely from the exp7270 and apollo). IME, the flavor will shift more to orange in a few weeks. I might take a pic in a week or so for comparison

 

[olotti]

Ha know I was reading through other threads regarding flaked barley and how it's not used in light colored beers due to it causing a haze kind of like rye, if haze is what we're looking for in these east coast style beers would adding say 1/2 lb of flaked barley be a good idea to increase the haziness of the beer? So could this along with a low floccing yeast like Conan or London ale III plus a large dry hop get us there. The only thing I guess against it is that it seems that these breweries prefer wheat malt and flaked wheat over barley so maybe there's a reason they don't use it. Just thinking out loud here.

 

[m00ps]

The 1LB shows as unavailable for me. I did just grab what looks like the last 8oz of it though in 4oz packages. Thanks!

Hey FYI the 1lb is available now for just $14!

I just grabbed another pound since I dunno if it was even harvested in 2015 since I havent see anythign pop up. Dont worry, even though its 2014 harvest, the aroma at least is as pungent at its ever been. The hop is like a combo of amarillo and apollo to my tastes. Orange upfront with some peach and pear, then some dank that fades as the beer matures

 

[arnobg]

Good stuff @m00ps what was different about this one, just the hops?

I'm curious your opinion on taste differences between the first and second recipe you used and which you liked better.

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[m00ps]

@arnobg
According to my beer stained scribble sheets, it looks like I was saving my citra for something else for the last one I sent you. I used some meridian instead. I also had a lot of apollo on hand so after giving it a smell, I decided to use it in hopstand and dry hopping too. I wouldve liked to use more amarillo, but its so damn expensive nowadays. I did kinda like the dank edge that apollo gave in post-boil additions though. It definitely calms down as it gets older and gets more orangey.

I haven't messed at all with the grain bill since its so drinkable. SWMBO kicked the keg yesterday so I probably have to start scrounging up another load of hops

 

[m00ps]

@multipass82
FYI, 2015 Exp 7270 is available at farmhouse brewing supply now. Just got me a pound

 

[tomchukj]

I'm still trying to find time to brew this. Have all the hops but am afraid my 8g brew kettle wont handle it. Need to get a 10 or 15 gallon but the wife keeps nixing it.

 

[m00ps]

I'm still trying to find time to brew this. Have all the hops but am afraid my 8g brew kettle wont handle it. Need to get a 10 or 15 gallon but the wife keeps nixing it.

You could always boil 1-2 gallons separate, cover and let it cool. Then use that to top off your fermentor

Good luck!

 

[monkey50187]

This is a beautiful beer. I substituted the Apollo hops for Galaxy because they just didn't smell right and I wasn't willing to chance it on some potentially cheesy hops. It has a great mango and citrus aroma. I can't wait to add the dry hop additions and get this on gas.

I didn't add the flour and this is hazy as can be. There was a huge amount of break material.

Thank you for putting this out there m00ps.

 

[m00ps]

This is a beautiful beer. I substituted the Apollo hops for Galaxy because they just didn't smell right and I wasn't willing to chance it on some potentially cheesy hops. It has a great mango and citrus aroma. I can't wait to add the dry hop additions and get this on gas.

I didn't add the flour and this is hazy as can be. There was a huge amount of break material.

Thank you for putting this out there m00ps.

Hope it turns out well for you. I've got #6 impatiently cooling in the kegerator right now. I figure it'll need another week to calm down to where the hops aren't offensively fresh though.

I'd be curious to hear how yours is as soon as its carbed. I find its at its best about 2 weeks after kegging. Its immensely fresh and hoppy right after being carbed, but its much smoother after about 2 weeks

 

[Blackhawkmech06]

Subscribed! This looks amazing

 

[monkey50187]

I still need to dry hop the beer, but right now it has an amazing flavor of mango and citrus. Its still hazy and bone dry. I can't wait to get this on gas. Maybe next week I'll keg it.

 

[DemonsRun]

EXP 7270 hops are in stock and on sale again $1 an ounce.
http://www.farmhousebrewingsupply.com/exp-7270-4-oz-2015-sale

 

[olotti]

EXP 7270 hops are in stock and on sale again $1 an ounce.
http://www.farmhousebrewingsupply.com/exp-7270-4-oz-2015-sale

Just got me 8oz with some mosaic and Columbus and Apollo. Looking to make a dipa with the Ctz to bitter then all late additions of the mosaic, 7270 and Apollo. Wanted some Galaxy but they sold out fast.

 

[m00ps]

Just got me 8oz with some mosaic and Columbus and Apollo. Looking to make a dipa with the Ctz to bitter then all late additions of the mosaic, 7270 and Apollo. Wanted some Galaxy but they sold out fast.

I made a dank bomb amber IPA with 7270, Apollo, Summit and Columbus and it basically turned out exactly as I expected.

I do hope they keep 7270 around permanently. It's been in experimental status for more than 2 years now and I've even seen a few commercial breweries using it

 

[olotti]

I made a dank bomb amber IPA with 7270, Apollo, Summit and Columbus and it basically turned out exactly as I expected.

I do hope they keep 7270 around permanently. It's been in experimental status for more than 2 years now and I've even seen a few commercial breweries using it

What do you get from the 7270, they say tangerine so I'm hoping to get the tangerine from that with the mosaic berry flavor and intense dank and deep pungency from the Apollo.

 

[abbysdad2006]

Hi, I have a question about the sugar in the grain bill? Are you mashing the sugar or putting it late in to the boil? Also, are you mashing the flour?

 

[m00ps]

What do you get from the 7270, they say tangerine so I'm hoping to get the tangerine from that with the mosaic berry flavor and intense dank and deep pungency from the Apollo.

I first read on some blog where they compared it to something like summer or Belma. I havent ever found this to be the case. The only time I got basically just fruit had small additions with no dry hop or large whirlpool.

I've gotten stone fruit tropical flavors from it, but its predominantly dank and citrus to me the later you add it. Dry hopping it smells very similar to fresh apollo with more fruitiness in the background

 

[m00ps]

Hi, I have a question about the sugar in the grain bill? Are you mashing the sugar or putting it late in to the boil? Also, are you mashing the flour?

I always just add sugar into the kettle at flameout or right before it. It doesnt need to be mashed since its already all fermentable sugar. It just needs to dissolve.

The flour I've just dumped in with all my grains. Its definitely not absolutely necessary, but I still like the body and OJ looking haze it is able to produce

 

[abbysdad2006]

I always just add sugar into the kettle at flameout or right before it. It doesnt need to be mashed since its already all fermentable sugar. It just needs to dissolve.

The flour I've just dumped in with all my grains. Its definitely not absolutely necessary, but I still like the body and OJ looking haze it is able to produce

Awesome!! Thank you!!

 

[olotti]

I first read on some blog where they compared it to something like summer or Belma. I havent ever found this to be the case. The only time I got basically just fruit had small additions with no dry hop or large whirlpool.

I've gotten stone fruit tropical flavors from it, but its predominantly dank and citrus to me the later you add it. Dry hopping it smells very similar to fresh apollo with more fruitiness in the background

I hope it's not like Belma, tried that hop for the first time in my latest IPA along with centennial and Amarillo and I'm pretty underwhelmed by the combo. I think I'm just used to that citrus, juice dank profile I've been making lately and this is more grassy, herbal, floral, different but not my favorite. I love the thought of 7270 being a sticky, resinous, orange so the plan is to really amp that up and use Apollo and mosaic along side.

 

[tomchukj]

Got this brewed this morning. One of those brew days where nothing went right though. Not sure if it was the flaked oats or wheat but got a huge stuck sparge that took me forever to clear, a great boil over and missed my number completely (1.080) but still hoping for the best.

 

[m00ps]

Got this brewed this morning. One of those brew days where nothing went right though. Not sure if it was the flaked oats or wheat but got a huge stuck sparge that took me forever to clear, a great boil over and missed my number completely (1.080) but still hoping for the best.

Just be sure to avoid as much oxygen as you can post yeast pitching and I'm sure it'll be alright. You make any modifications?

I've brewed this 5 times I think since I posted. I've made changes in the hops, but kept the yeast strategy the same.

I have entered this into 3 competitions so far though. They were in KY, IL, and TN and I walked away with 3 gold medals . Thanks for giving it a shot dude

 

[Wolfhound180]

Just be sure to avoid as much oxygen as you can post yeast pitching and I'm sure it'll be alright. You make any modifications?

I've brewed this 5 times I think since I posted. I've made changes in the hops, but kept the yeast strategy the same.

I have entered this into 3 competitions so far though. They were in KY, IL, and TN and I walked away with 3 gold medals . Thanks for giving it a shot dude

What category did you enter it in? Also, I'm confused on the yeast used. Did you start with a different yeast and finish with the saison?

 

[tomchukj]

Just be sure to avoid as much oxygen as you can post yeast pitching and I'm sure it'll be alright. You make any modifications?

I've brewed this 5 times I think since I posted. I've made changes in the hops, but kept the yeast strategy the same.

I have entered this into 3 competitions so far though. They were in KY, IL, and TN and I walked away with 3 gold medals . Thanks for giving it a shot dude

I switched out the madarina hops for citra and added the saison yeast on day two. Its sitting at 1.09 today and I added the first dry hop addition. I almost cried taking a sample. The smell was heavenly.