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My circadian clock is finely tuned. You don't mess with a man's circadian clock.

You know who else's circadian clock you can't mess with?

Infants' and toddlers' and preschoolers.

We had both grandsons this weekend, but not at the same time. The toddler was Friday and Saturday night- you couldn't tell him Sunday morning he got up at 5 AM and it was too early.

We had the preschooler last night. He came strolling into our bedroom just before 6 AM, wondering why on earth we were still in bed. It was "his" 7 AM, and he was raring to go. By "our" 7 AM, he had eaten, changed into his play clothes, and was ready for the day. He ended up going grocery shopping at 7:15 today with Bob, since he was more than ready for going out. And there is no way on God's green earth he will be able to stay up until 8 PM tonight for his mom. So she's in for a pre-6 AM morning as well.

Leave the clock alone already!
 
Yeah... I remember those days with my own kids. They get over it after a couple of years, though. I suppose this is all moot for you, living in Michigan. Winter there must be like living in the icy underbelly of a glacier - who cares what time the sun rises? ;)

I agree there are aspects of it that suck, but I'll take them over the alternatives (as previously stated). The bottom line is that we should be blaming the Earth and its stupid tilted axis. Seriously, why can't it just stand up straight? Are we living on the drunk uncle of all the plants in our solar system? Get your act together.
 
It does not bother me, but someone pointed out to me several years ago that it is actually "Daylight Saving Time" and not "Daylight Savings Time" as most people pronounce it. Apparently you are only saving it once so it is not plural. Really pisses off your local grammar nazi once they are aware.

I do notice it every time now though.
 
It's a lot easier if you can simply assume 0900 is morning everywhere, and base your times off that.

It's exactly the same calculation. You still have to figure out how many hours difference you are from someone you intend to call (e.g. my 0900 is his 0400, so I have to wait until 1400 to call).

The real major downside is that many people will have a date change at random time (halfway through the afternoon, for instance).
 
It's exactly the same calculation. You still have to figure out how many hours difference you are from someone you intend to call (e.g. my 0900 is his 0400, so I have to wait until 1400 to call).

The real major downside is that many people will have a date change at random time (halfway through the afternoon, for instance).

That was my problem when I was calling my brother-in-law in Japan. I had to remember: change PM to AM, add 4 hours, and it's tomorrow.
 
Dairy cows also do not understand the concept of going on/coming off Daylight Saving Time. Cows are truly creatures of habit, and know within a few minutes of when they are supposed to be milked. When milking happens late, those cows really raise a ruckus! When milking happens early, they haven't arrived in the barnyard yet! The cows eventually get used to it, but it sure does cause havoc in the lives of dairy farmers!

glenn514:mug:
 
Dairy cows also do not understand the concept of going on/coming off Daylight Saving Time. Cows are truly creatures of habit, and know within a few minutes of when they are supposed to be milked. When milking happens late, those cows really raise a ruckus! When milking happens early, they haven't arrived in the barnyard yet! The cows eventually get used to it, but it sure does cause havoc in the lives of dairy farmers!

glenn514:mug:

The cows get milked at the same time (dawn) before and after daylight saving time ends - the clock just says something different.

My work day starts in reference to dawn all the time. Saturday, I started work at 7:00am. Sunday, I started work at 6:00am. The sun came up at the same moment both days (sans 30 seconds). Daylight saving takes place (mostly) so that when I start work in the summer, it's at 5:00am instead of 4:00am, and then I have an extra hour of daylight at the end of the day.
 
It does not bother me, but someone pointed out to me several years ago that it is actually "Daylight Saving Time" and not "Daylight Savings Time" as most people pronounce it. Apparently you are only saving it once so it is not plural. Really pisses off your local grammar nazi once they are aware.

I do notice it every time now though.

was that in Warshington or Baston?
 
I live in Hawaii. Daylight savings plan is not part of Hawaiian time. Most places close to the equator have never adopted the idea because The difference in day and night is insignificant throughout the year.

Two states on similar latitudes like IL and IA on two different zones is pretty nuts. You live in a state that recognizes time changes but work across the border it isn't recognized? Umm? There could be a few problems.

When i lived in states that observed the time change I haven't really decided if I like having more sumner hours or not.

I always thought the original idea was to give the majority of farmers an extra hour in the fall to harvest. In the states where winter is harsh and not much grows which is anywhere (as my reference cue point) a couple of hundred miles north and south of mid Illinois.

California is a huge agricultural state. They easily farm year round.

Hmmm. I'm torn whether daylight savings is pertinent these days. When Benjamin Franklin suggested it and it was further made a norm. Technology was not as advanced as it is now
 
I live in Hawaii. Daylight savings plan is not part of Hawaiian time. Most places close to the equator have never adopted the idea because The difference in day and night is insignificant throughout the year.

Two states on similar latitudes like IL and IA on two different zones is pretty nuts. You live in a state that recognizes time changes but work across the border it isn't recognized? Umm? There could be a few problems.

When i lived in states that observed the time change I haven't really decided if I like having more sumner hours or not.

I always thought the original idea was to give the majority of farmers an extra hour in the fall to harvest. In the states where winter is harsh and not much grows which is anywhere (as my reference cue point) a couple of hundred miles north and south of mid Illinois.

California is a huge agricultural state. They easily farm year round.

Hmmm. I'm torn whether daylight savings is pertinent these days. When Benjamin Franklin suggested it and it was further made a norm. Technology was not as advanced as it is now

That's what kills me. If you're a farmer wake up earlier. Don't make me change my clock.

My youngest was up at 4 am this morning. I could choke the dudes that came up with this.
 
I live in Hawaii. Daylight savings plan is not part of Hawaiian time. Most places close to the equator have never adopted the idea because The difference in day and night is insignificant throughout the year.

Two states on similar latitudes like IL and IA on two different zones is pretty nuts. You live in a state that recognizes time changes but work across the border it isn't recognized? Umm? There could be a few problems.

When i lived in states that observed the time change I haven't really decided if I like having more sumner hours or not.

I always thought the original idea was to give the majority of farmers an extra hour in the fall to harvest. In the states where winter is harsh and not much grows which is anywhere (as my reference cue point) a couple of hundred miles north and south of mid Illinois.

California is a huge agricultural state. They easily farm year round.

Hmmm. I'm torn whether daylight savings is pertinent these days. When Benjamin Franklin suggested it and it was further made a norm. Technology was not as advanced as it is now


IL and IA are in the same Time Zone. IL and IN are in different time zones.

Tractors and Combines have lights these days, so you can plant and harvest 24/7 if you wish, and this time of year the grain elevator is open 24/7 as well. However, you may only be able to go to the bank 3 days/week, or not after 3 pm, in some small farm towns.
 
I always thought the original idea was to give the majority of farmers an extra hour in the fall to harvest. In the states where winter is harsh and not much grows which is anywhere (as my reference cue point) a couple of hundred miles north and south of mid Illinois

When I worked on the farm, We didn’t change our clocks, and we didn’t wear our watches into the field. You just had to know everything in town closed an hour early in the summer.

It’s funny, when I was in Illinois, noon was when the sun was directly overhead. Now I live in Texas and noon is at 1:30 pm, a half hour different for the longitude, and an hour for stupid Daylight Saving Time.

You’re very wrong about Illinois not growing much. Were you thinking of Alaska?
 
we get it here australia.and nothing than pain the backside for those who work on the land or shift.we normally have three time zones,but daylight saving gives us an extra zone.and the powers to be change the time's when it start's and when it finish's to suit event's.
 
Oh, yes, and BEER! Beer for all. That's the second part of my platform. No time changes, even if YOU move, you will still be on the same time zone forever, and beer. Beer for everyone.

And bacon. No time changes, beer for everyone, and bacon. That's all we need.

I know I won't get the Jewish vote, but I think I"m onto something.

I don't know why someone else hasn't complained....Grilled cheese!

On another note. Time zones are weird for sure. Time changes make it even worse. How about living 5 minutes from your neighbor, but he is 65 minutes away?
 
I don't know why someone else hasn't complained....Grilled cheese!

On another note. Time zones are weird for sure. Time changes make it even worse. How about living 5 minutes from your neighbor, but he is 65 minutes away?

That's one of the things living where I do. There are 83 counties in Michigan. Four of them are in the central time zone, while the rest are in the eastern time zone.

Right now, it's 7:23 AM here, but north and west of us, it's 8:23 AM. It made for interesting football and basketball games when my kids were in high school.
 
That's one of the things living where I do. There are 83 counties in Michigan. Four of them are in the central time zone, while the rest are in the eastern time zone.

Right now, it's 7:23 AM here, but north and west of us, it's 8:23 AM. It made for interesting football and basketball games when my kids were in high school.

South Dakota is cut in half on the time zones almost right on the river. which I find fine anyway. it should have been East Dakota and West Dakota instead of North & South. East River folk think different than West River folk.
 
Same here. So lets just keep daylight savings time and do away with normal time.

I don't want to do anything when I come home at 5 and it's dark.
 
Same here. So lets just keep daylight savings time and do away with normal time.

I don't want to do anything when I come home at 5 and it's dark.

Same here. I lose interest in doing things when it's dark out. It's bedtime or tv time.

The only saving graces are football games, hockey games, World of Warcraft, cooking, and uh, you know... the thing...

Too bad you don't' have hockey down there.
 
We have pro hockey, but you're right it's not the same.

I got into archery recently, and now that it's cold and dark it raises the level of danger to unacceptable. I'm just doing it on the weekends now.

Oh well... I guess there's next year...
 
I am still waking up an hour before my alarm. G^%#%%$##$%!

I don't have to be up till 5:30, but I'm usually up by 5. I'm waking up at 4:30. That ruins me. Even if I'm not tired the thought of waking up at 4 is exhausting.
 
I learned a timely lesson while traveling years ago. I asked the departure time of a train at a ticket window and was told 'how could I know, it hasn't arrived yet'. I still like the convenience of specifics but time is like location, as long as everyone agrees the coordinates don't matter much. Four is the new five to our pets.
 

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