American IPA Stone Ruination Clone

[sablesurfer]

Brewing a Yooper recipe!

 

[crusader1612]

If your planningthe ruination clone itself for V2.0, the base build is the same.
bump your 10 min to 1.75 oz, and use maybe 1.25oz azacca/simcoe/citra at flameout.
then deryhop with a buttload of centennial.

so pretty similar just a bit more complex towards the end.
this is what i'd do, and will do after my wedding.....

14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 93.33 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 6.67 %

1 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 73.2 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (30 min) Hops 22.1 IBU
1.75 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (10 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.00%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
1.25 oz Simcoe [12.60%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
1.25 oz Azacca [14.50%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
3.50 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops

Alternative version of this brewed on friday.
Went back a bit towards yoopers recipe., but increased the hoppingto suit the above.

Here's where I went (wanted it drier)
13.2lb Ale Malt
2.2lb Vienna
1.1lb Munich
8oz Acid (pH)

1 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 73.2 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (30 min) Hops 22.1 IBU
1.75 oz Cascade [6.60 %] (10 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
2.8 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
2.3 oz Citra [12.60%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops
1.4 oz Galaxy [14.50%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops
0.35 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops

Yeast M44 Mangrove Jacks (5 Packs - Rehydrated (this stuff likes higher pitch rates, and it tended to start faster with higher pitch rates.)

OG 1.075
FG (aiming for 1.010)

 

[crusader1612]

Alternative version of this brewed on friday.
Went back a bit towards yoopers recipe., but increased the hoppingto suit the above.

Here's where I went (wanted it drier)
13.2lb Ale Malt
2.2lb Vienna
1.1lb Munich
8oz Acid (pH)

1 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 73.2 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (30 min) Hops 22.1 IBU
1.75 oz Cascade [6.60 %] (10 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
2.8 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
2.3 oz Citra [12.60%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops
1.4 oz Galaxy [14.50%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops
0.35 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops

Yeast M44 Mangrove Jacks (5 Packs - Rehydrated (this stuff likes higher pitch rates, and it tended to start faster with higher pitch rates.)

OG 1.075
FG (aiming for 1.010)

hit 1.073 - to 1.011 so pretty close.
It'll taste different, but When I kegged yesterday, it had nice saturated hops character. big bitterness, and plenty of fruit forward flavor from citra/galaxy.

 

[BobOki]

I have this in the fermenter right now.. Added a little extra water so I could bottle some wort.... but still hit OG1.072. It is currently bubbling like mad.
I also added some Irish Moss, about 1oz at 15min.... threw in a couple of my whole hop centennial in the boil too.... and lastly used WLP007 as my yeast with a huge ole starter. I got Fermentation happen in 1st day, and it has already gone down .010 gravity since Sat night.

 

[Tarpon87]

Crusader,

Any word how the last version turned out? This will probably be next brew as I already have all the hops for it.

 

[crusader1612]

Crusader,

Any word how the last version turned out? This will probably be next brew as I already have all the hope for it.

turned out really well.
I'd probably eliminate the Galaxy though (my stock was a little old i think, still good to use, but missing some aroma)

 

[Tarpon87]

I'll probably use azacca instead of Galaxy anyway since that's what I have on hand. What was your water profile? How close was the beer to the real thing?

 

[crusader1612]

I'll probably use azacca instead of Galaxy anyway since that's what I have on hand. What was your water profile? How close was the beer to the real thing?

the centennial made it close, given theres so much of it.
but wit hte citra and galaxy it made it different enough. if that makes sense.

azacca makes more sense anyway (I just can't get it here)

the water profile for me is easy, we have really good water her e in chch.nz.
just a littele bit of chloride and sulphate.
i added 1/4tsp of gypsum as well to crisp it up,

 

[Tarpon87]

Plan on brewing 5gal of this up tomorrow

 

[Tarpon87]

So i got 5.5gal fermenting now. But i realized i used mosaic instead of azacca for the late additions. Should i just roll with mosaic for the dryhop or switch to azacca now?

 

[crusader1612]

So i got 5.5gal fermenting now. But i realized i used mosaic instead of azacca for the late additions. Should i just roll with mosaic for the dryhop or switch to azacca now?

i dont think it will matter. i using mosaic will change the beer obviously, but you've already chaged it slightly anyways.

it will all depend on whether you want to use more mosaic, (you might want some for another beer) or switch over.
just personal preference. really.

it'll still taste good.

 

[Tarpon87]

Ok question- been fermenting for 6 days. Activity has slowed way down, havent checked graavity so i dont know exactly where its at. Im going out of town for a week, do i dry hop before i leave or let it sit another week and dryhop when i get back?

Edit: decided just to leave it for another week, ill dryhop when i get back

 

[darrickv]

I dry hop after 7 days so I would dryhop it now. It wont hurt either way, just adds time to the process and makes you wait to have a drink!

 

[jimdkc]

Had a Ruination v2.0 the other day. I actually miss v1.0!

 

[Tarpon87]

I never had the original but 2.0 is one of my favorite beers

 

[Tarpon87]

Well just got back from out of town, no catastrophies with the beer while i was gone. Checked gravity and dryhopped this morning. Didnt get the the fg i was looking for, finished at 1.022. Oh well, didnt have time for a starter but double pitched 1099..
Had to modify my dry hops cuz i ran out of citra early.
Citra 1.2oz
Azacca 2.3oz
Centennial 1.5oz
Should still be a good beer

 

[sweed]

Brewed this up last Friday night. I've been looking at this recipe for years, I like how simple the recipe is.
OG 1.084 - Added some sugar.
On Sunday at some point my wife turned on the dehumidifier downstairs and my temps went from 68 to about 74+ on Monday... I hope this does not affect the turnout!
It's back down to upper 60's. I'll dry hop when I get back from the cape next Thursday.

 

[HimalayanBrew]

Brewed this about a month back for our homebrewing COOP. I added 3oz of Cascade in the dry hop. A huge crowd pleaser!

 

[NickAus]

Interesting that version 2.0 of this beer on their website lists quite a few hops including citra, anyone tried it? Much of a difference? Another cracking recipe Yoop, thanks!

 

[crusader1612]

Interesting that version 2.0 of this beer on their website lists quite a few hops including citra, anyone tried it? Much of a difference? Another cracking recipe Yoop, thanks!

Technically I think you'd call it version 3.0. As they changed the dryhopping regime after I visited. All the "new" hops are in the dryhop stage I've been told. The base recipe remains the same.

 

[NickAus]

You should let them know the name is wrong

Cheers for the possible dry hop info, good to know, might give it a try.

 

[jimdkc]

1.0 was one of my favorites. Personally... I think they screwed up a good thing!

 

[NickAus]

Cool thanks for sharing

 

[jimdkc]

Don't get me wrong... 2.0 is still very, very good!

 

[crusader1612]

14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 93.33 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 6.67 %

1.75 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 73.2 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (30 min) Hops 22.1 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (10 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (1 min) Hops 1.2 IBU
2.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -

1 Pkgs Pacman Yeast (Wyeast) [Starter 50 ml] [Cultured] Yeast-Ale

You could use any well-attenuating clean ale yeast. WLP001, or Wyeast 1056 come to mind, or S05 for dry.

Mash at 152.
My beers seem to attenuate really well- so use a lower mash temp if you've have attenuation problems in the past. I got about 82% attenuation with the pacman yeast.

For extract, a full boil would be the same but use 8 pounds light or extra light DME.
For an extract batch with a 2.5 gallon boil, do this:
4 pounds DME
1 pound crystal 20
4 pounds DME (added at flame out)
Hopping the same.

This was obviously built and brewed a long long time ago.

and now the website for Stone suggests the below hops feature in the beer, I'd be interested to see if anyone has tried to clone or take inspiration from the changes?? (I'm sure many of you think (V1.0) was better, but we should hopefully be past that now.

FEATURED HOPS
Magnum
Nugget
Centennial
Simcoe
Citra® & Azacca

Centennial obviously still plays a major part in the beer, both in boil and dryhopping, citra would be dryhop only, with magnum of bittering and nugget i assume at 30 minutes?

90min - 30G magnum (Or whatver Bittering Hop you want)
30min - 30G Nugget

10min - 30G (Centennial??)
flameout - 30G EACH?? (Simcoe?? & Centennial??)

Dryhop - Centennial & Citra (Azacca too??)

Planning on using the new Verdant yeast, once I figure out how and where I want hops

 

[bamcisman]

This was obviously built and brewed a long long time ago.

and now the website for Stone suggests the below hops feature in the beer, I'd be interested to see if anyone has tried to clone or take inspiration from the changes?? (I'm sure many of you think (V1.0) was better, but we should hopefully be past that now.

FEATURED HOPS
Magnum
Nugget
Centennial
Simcoe
Citra® & Azacca

Centennial obviously still plays a major part in the beer, both in boil and dryhopping, citra would be dryhop only, with magnum of bittering and nugget i assume at 30 minutes?

90min - 30G magnum (Or whatver Bittering Hop you want)
30min - 30G Nugget

10min - 30G (Centennial??)
flameout - 30G EACH?? (Simcoe?? & Centennial??)

Dryhop - Centennial & Citra (Azacca too??)

Planning on using the new Verdant yeast, once I figure out how and where I want hops

That looks good to me, although I'd do a huge flameout/whirlpool. Probably 56g each of Centennial and Simcoe. Then dry hop with mostly Citra/Azacca and a small charge of Centennial.

 

[Shenanigans]

Looking into brewing a tasty DIPA and have all the hops listed.
Any update on the attempts with version 2.0 ?

 

[crusader1612]

Looking into brewing a tasty DIPA and have all the hops listed.
Any update on the attempts with version 2.0 ?

true, sorry.

yeah i used M44 yeast instead to keep it nice and clean.

i ended up prety much at the recipe above, with a dryhop of 75g each of centennial and citra, with 50g of azacca.
it was tasty, but still needs work.

 

[Shenanigans]

true, sorry.

yeah i used M44 yeast instead to keep it nice and clean.

i ended up prety much at the recipe above, with a dryhop of 75g each of centennial and citra, with 50g of azacca.
it was tasty, but still needs work.

Thanks for your reply.
What would you change?

Sometimes the yeast makes all the difference.
When I get around to brewing this I will for sure use WLP007.

 

[Broothru]

If you're looking for a great British yeast, I'd go with Imperial "Pub", which is supposedly is Fuller's. That said, I'm quite a fan of London Pride.