American IPA Stone Ruination Clone

[BadDeacon]

If you had it at 72 for more than a few days, it might just be C02 and not fermentation. Something to consider.

I need to take a sample and test the gravity but I can't find my friggin thief since I moved. Tempted to just drop the hydrometer in there.

 

[1977Brewer]

I need to take a sample and test the gravity but I can't find my friggin thief since I moved. Tempted to just drop the hydrometer in there.

Do it. Sanitize it first. Or go spend two bucks on a turkey baster.

The business end of an auto siphon works as well.


You have options.

 

[yukonhijack]

Moved mine to secondary after two weeks in primary. It is dry hopping now, and it did ferment down a couple more points to 1.010. Sample was again very tasty. I plan to move it to the keg tomorrow (5 days of dry hopping), and dunk in 2 ounces of whole leaf dry hops. Hopefully it will be ready by Saturday!

 

[yukonhijack]

Kegged my Ruination clone yesterday, put it at 35 psi for 29 hours, and just tasted a pint. SUPER tasty! I have a small banana flavor, but I think that can be attributed to my swinging fermentation temps. That should be fixed now that I have a temp controlled chamber to make the next batch in. Super happy with this recipe. Thanks Yooper!

 

[crusader1612]

Anyone have a steer, on the new 2.0 version ofthis beer?
My understanding isthey have kept thesame base grains etc, and added some new special hops.
What I've been told is this:
Centennial has been kept as the major flavour/aroma etc. with new supportinghops, in azacca, simcoe and citra. can someone confirm this, and let me know whether anyone has done a recipe usingall these hops, and has come out similar???

 

[Zippox]

Will likely brew this recipe soon. Posting here so I don't lose it!

 

[akithegood]

Just kegged this yesterday with dry hops and it smelled awesome! Gravity was down to 1.012 from 1.065 for 7% alcohol and 81% AA.

I had some issues with lower boil rate than usual and ended up with 13l of 1.065 wort instead of 10l of 1.077. The low boil rate also resulted in less bitterness than shot for, about 90 IBUs. Luckily I didn't notice any DMS, but the gravity sample had an odd rubbery/soapy aftertaste to it. I used Centennial instead of Magnum for bittering - maybe the aftertaste has something to do with the "harshness" of bittering hops and will fade over time. I'm gonna chill and carb it in a week, I hope it'll turn out OK.

 

[jsvarney5]

I know this thread has been revived time and time again and I've read through a good portion of it, but as I get set to brew this in a couple weeks I haven't found anything relating to the water profile.

I use distilled water and add salts from there. If Yooper is still watching this thread, what was your water like for brewing this beer? Or if anyone else has built up from distilled with a good result, what did your additions look like? Im think around 100ppm Ca and then bumping the sulfate up a good bit to help for a drying effect like i wouold in most IPA's or DIPA's but would love to hear what other people did. Thanks!

 

[-Matteo-]

Mitch Steele on his book wrote: "Use municipal water (~300 ppm hardness) that has been carbon filtered and reverse osmosis treated to reduce hardness to 100 ppm."
He didn't mention sulphate or chloride, so that's up to your preferences (and knowledge)

 

[darrickv]

If anyone has the 2.0 recipe please post! I just bought another 6er this stuff is so good. I need to make my own before my wife finds out its 15 bucks a 6 pack.

 

[Yooper]

I know this thread has been revived time and time again and I've read through a good portion of it, but as I get set to brew this in a couple weeks I haven't found anything relating to the water profile.

I use distilled water and add salts from there. If Yooper is still watching this thread, what was your water like for brewing this beer? Or if anyone else has built up from distilled with a good result, what did your additions look like? Im think around 100ppm Ca and then bumping the sulfate up a good bit to help for a drying effect like i wouold in most IPA's or DIPA's but would love to hear what other people did. Thanks!

I probably wouldn't go to 100 ppm of calcium, unless you can't help it, but I didn't boost my sulfate too much, around 150 ppm or so. Mash pH of around 5.4.

 

[crusader1612]

If anyone has the 2.0 recipe please post! I just bought another 6er this stuff is so good. I need to make my own before my wife finds out its 15 bucks a 6 pack.

Ive dne a toned down versionwhich came out well, but used nugget instead of azacca, as i couldnt get any at the time.

6% Quaffer
0.75oz magnum @60
1.75oz centennial @10
1oz each citra/simcoe/nugget @0
3.5oz centennial @ dryhop

came out well. i'll plan to make it a big version soon, so the hop additions will get bigger

 

[darrickv]

Thank you, I will try this out this week. Is that hop schedule for a 5 gal batch?

 

[crusader1612]

Thank you, I will try this out this week. Is that hop schedule for a 5 gal batch?

sure is, OG was 1060. but feel free to increase to og as required. including the hops

 

[crusader1612]

Thank you, I will try this out this week. Is that hop schedule for a 5 gal batch?

If your planningthe ruination clone itself for V2.0, the base build is the same.
bump your 10 min to 1.75 oz, and use maybe 1.25oz azacca/simcoe/citra at flameout.
then deryhop with a buttload of centennial.

so pretty similar just a bit more complex towards the end.
this is what i'd do, and will do after my wedding.....

14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 93.33 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 6.67 %

1 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 73.2 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (30 min) Hops 22.1 IBU
1.75 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (10 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.00%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
1.25 oz Simcoe [12.60%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
1.25 oz Azacca [14.50%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
3.50 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops

 

[JLW]

After all these years I still come back to this recipe as a go to for an West Coast style IPA.

 

[darrickv]

If your planningthe ruination clone itself for V2.0, the base build is the same.
bump your 10 min to 1.75 oz, and use maybe 1.25oz azacca/simcoe/citra at flameout.
then deryhop with a buttload of centennial.

so pretty similar just a bit more complex towards the end.
this is what i'd do, and will do after my wedding.....

14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 93.33 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 6.67 %

1 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 73.2 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (30 min) Hops 22.1 IBU
1.75 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (10 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.00%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
1.25 oz Simcoe [12.60%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
1.25 oz Azacca [14.50%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
3.50 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops

I went with 2 oz centennial and 1 oz azacca for the dry hop. Just tasted before cold crashing and it is on point Ruination 2.0

 

[crusader1612]

I went with 2 oz centennial and 1 oz azacca for the dry hop. Just tasted before cold crashing and it is on point Ruination 2.0

Nice. Sounds like a winner.

 

[crusader1612]

I went with 2 oz centennial and 1 oz azacca for the dry hop. Just tasted before cold crashing and it is on point Ruination 2.0

Any Update on this?
I'm gearing up for this one soon.

 

[darrickv]

Any Update on this?
I'm gearing up for this one soon.

I just tried it yesterday after it carbed in the keg. I haven't tried a side by side comparison yet but it tastes exactly line ruination 2.0. Very good results I couldn't be happier. I used pacman yeast if I didn't mention it.

 

[darrickv]

Any Update on this?
I'm gearing up for this one soon.

I just tried it yesterday after it carbed in the keg. I haven't tried a side by side comparison yet but it tastes exactly line ruination 2.0. Very good results I couldn't be happier. I used pacman yeast if I didn't mention it.

 

[crusader1612]

I just tried it yesterday after it carbed in the keg. I haven't tried a side by side comparison yet but it tastes exactly line ruination 2.0. Very good results I couldn't be happier.

Glad it worked out well.
Guess it's my turn.

 

[darrickv]

Now I am off in search of a recipe for Saint Archer Mosaic. I just tried it and it is an outstanding IPA. I am not able to find anything online for any Saint Archer recipes. This might be trial and error!

 

[crusader1612]

Now I am off in search of a recipe for Saint Archer Mosaic. I just tried it and it is an outstanding IPA. I am not able to find anything online for any Saint Archer recipes. This might be trial and error!

you could almost do the same recipe but switch out the hops for mosaic chinook simcoe and amarillo.
Using mosaic as the replacement for centennial.

 

[jeff62217]

Thanks for the recipe Yooper!

Kegged this about a week ago, had my first taste last Sunday. I dry hopped with 3oz instead of 2 and used S05 instead of pacman, but everything else was per recipe.


After clearing nearly a dozen hop pellets from the bev out post spring, finally got a good pour.

 

[kadozen]

So, I have an oatmeal stout in the pipeline next (also Yoopers recipe) then I'm doing this. I only have one fermenter I can use at a time so that gives me plenty of planning time for this. Now, I have no issue getting the hops, but I also have a bunch of Citra on hand and I was thinking about using some alongside the Centennial. Since Citra can easily overpower other hops I was thinking about using half the amount of Citra alongside the Centennial additions. Sound good? Should I drop the Citra idea all together? Do they play well together?

Thanks in advance everyone.

 

[Beer_Goggles]

If your planningthe ruination clone itself for V2.0, the base build is the same.
bump your 10 min to 1.75 oz, and use maybe 1.25oz azacca/simcoe/citra at flameout.
then deryhop with a buttload of centennial.

so pretty similar just a bit more complex towards the end.
this is what i'd do, and will do after my wedding.....

14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 93.33 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 6.67 %

1 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 73.2 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (30 min) Hops 22.1 IBU
1.75 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (10 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.00%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
1.25 oz Simcoe [12.60%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
1.25 oz Azacca [14.50%] (0 min) Hops 0.0 IBU
3.50 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops

I'm about to order the ingredients for this, but im not getting 73 IBU's in beersmith with the 1 oz. 60 min Magnum hop addition. Is that a typo or should it be 1.75 oz like the original recipe? Sorry im pretty new and dont wana screw it up.

Thanks

 

[jimdkc]

I'd like to know, too! I'm guessing that the whole deal with v2.0 is less early hop additions and much more late hop additions... And, maybe, the 60 minute quantity was changed, but IBUs were not recalculated???

 

[crusader1612]

I'm about to order the ingredients for this, but im not getting 73 IBU's in beersmith with the 1 oz. 60 min Magnum hop addition. Is that a typo or should it be 1.75 oz like the original recipe? Sorry im pretty new and dont wana screw it up.

Thanks

I dropped the addition, as i upped the later hops, which while they wont contribute to the larger bitterness, they will contribute to a more bold hop flavour.
I found the V2.0 to be less bitter than V1.0 but much hoppier, and flavorsome.

I increased the 10 min addition 10 1.75oz,
and the flameout hops will contribute some bitterness (not alot) to the final product. with 3.75oz going in at flameout.

Should sit around 80-90 IBU total using Rager.

 

[Beer_Goggles]

I dropped the addition, as i upped the later hops, which while they wont contribute to the larger bitterness, they will contribute to a more bold hop flavour.
I found the V2.0 to be less bitter than V1.0 but much hoppier, and flavorsome.

I increased the 10 min addition 10 1.75oz,
and the flameout hops will contribute some bitterness (not alot) to the final product. with 3.75oz going in at flameout.

Should sit around 80-90 IBU total using Rager.

Thanks for clearing that up.