Southern Tier Creme Brule stout Clone

[Troubs]

I am broke and waiting on my tax return to buy high life

For the love of God, someone start a collection for this guy!

 

[dcp27]

IIRC, this beer had a pretty strong burnt sugar flavor. Did the C80 get you there? I figured a clone would have need like 1# or so of C120

 

[mosquitocontrol]

Any further updates on this? Had an '08 of this last night at a tasting and it was so good. May turn into one of my first experiments into all grain.

 

[lou2row]

Had this and it took three of us to finish one bottle. As people have determined for ST's pumpking, in my opinion this has to have extracts to form that strong of scent and cloying flavor. The same place that has the graham cracker has a burnt sugar extract. I would wager that ST uses a combination of available extracts or flavorings to help keep people from nailing their recipe.

And beware people who have "spoke to the brewmaster". A ton of differing advice has come from all who have asked for information.

 

[Nickb2007]

I plan on brewing this recipe next week. Any advise? or alterations you have made over the last few years?

 

[Brewmex41]

I havent tried the original but I think i want to try this. But i think i'll swap the roasted barley for maybe chocolate malt and make it more of an imperial porter.

 

[Nickb2007]

I would cut back on the lacto sugar by half. It was way to sweet. Did not have the intense punch of st creme brûlée. You are on the right track with the chocolate malt. Let me know how it works out. I would love to try this again.

 

[Brewmex41]

Got a bottle. Gonna taste test first.

 

[Brewmex41]

Got this brewing now.
3 gallon batch:
8.75lb 2 row
9 oz each of:
Chocolate malt
Crystal 80l
CaraPils

1oz magnum at 60

I'm gonna add 5oz brown sugar and 11oz lactose once primary dies down a bit then adding Madagascar bourbon vanilla beans.
Pitching Rogue PacMan yeast

1oz magnum at 60

I'm gonna add 5oz brown sugar and 11oz lactose once primary dies down a bit then adding Madagascar bourbon vanilla beans.
Pitching Rogue PacMan yeast

 

[Nickb2007]

How did it turn out?

 

[Brewmex41]

Only been in the bottle two weeks, but I popped one in the fridge. It's a little too dry and not enough vanilla. I think another vanilla bean and more lactose next time around for me.

 

[Brewmex41]

Oh man its getting better.
Left one with the lady that runs a local bottle shop. Says she prefers it over the original southern tier brew and if she were judging it, it would get high marks. So I think I may save one or two for the Clark county fair.

 

[corky7987]

Here is the recipe from BYO December 2011:

 

[brewSTI]

Here is the recipe from BYO December 2011:

Awesome! Thanks for posting that. I just bought 12 pack of these and would love to just brew my own... especially when a 12 pack cost and arm and a leg.

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[butterpants]

I made this exactly to the BYO spec.... it's a cardamom bomb. Halve that stuff or it'll be spicy as hell. Also don't boil the vanilla beans... all aromatic ls will be lost. The base sweet stout is quite nice tho.

 

[frankjones]

How much of the vanilla beans?

 

[frankjones]

I know this is an older thread... But any chance of getting a better bigger pic of the recipe? Thanks in you can.

 

[mtnagel]

I'd be surprised if 10 oz of lactose is enough. I did a chocolate stout with more and I don't think it added that much sweetness.

I think I may try a small batch of this. The original beer is amazing, but not something I can drink much of.

 

[frankjones]

Thanks so much! The high abv is toooo high for me! I'm going to try my hand at making the recipe that brewmex41 posted here but scale it to 6% abv using less two row. But how much vanilla beans should I add? He doesn't say.

 

[mtnagel]

It says 3 vanilla beans in the recipe.

 

[mtnagel]

Anyone know what black malt I should use? It says Belgian, but the only Belgian black malt in Beer Smith is de-bittered. I'm assuming that's not it.

 

[butterpants]

I used blackprinz

 

[Brewmex41]

Thanks so much! The high abv is toooo high for me! I'm going to try my hand at making the recipe that brewmex41 posted here but scale it to 6% abv using less two row. But how much vanilla beans should I add? He doesn't say.

I think I used 2 for a 3 gallon batch, but next time I'd opt for 3 beans.

 

[frankjones]

Hi! I put together the recipe on a 1.5 gallon scale. It came out nice and thick. Took forever to get to boil.

Used 3 pounds of two row.

 

[skagit991]

This one was way too sweet, if i made it again i would cut the lactose in half.

 

[mtnagel]

Hi! I put together the recipe on a 1.5 gallon scale. It came out nice and thick. Took forever to get to boil.

Used 3 pounds of two row.

I was planning a 1 gal batch AG and was surprised to see it still uses 6 lbs of grains! My last 5 gal recipe used 9 lbs

This one was way too sweet, if i made it again i would cut the lactose in half.

Have you had the original? It's ridiculously sweet.

As I said, I'd be surprised if the lactose we enough because I made a chocolate stout with more and I don't think it added that much sweetness.

 

[frankjones]

I used three pounds of two row because I just didn't want that high abv

 

[mtnagel]

Please let me know how it turns out because I also don't always want to drink a 10% ABV beer every night. I do fear it may be unbalanced if you didn't scale anything though.

 

[mtnagel]

Since you aren't adding anything to secondary, are most people just keeping it in primary longer?

 

[skagit991]

I was planning a 1 gal batch AG and was surprised to see it still uses 6 lbs of grains! My last 5 gal recipe used 9 lbs


Have you had the original? It's ridiculously sweet.

As I said, I'd be surprised if the lactose we enough because I made a chocolate stout with more and I don't think it added that much sweetness.

No, didn't try the original but I should have. This is one of those recipes that made me stop trying clones before I have tried the original. Just not my thing although it made great ice cream!