Sloppy Saturday Frequency

[passedpawn]

Hi guys. I've got a lot of time to kill tonight, I thought I'd address some of the comments here. I understand your disappointment and I truly appreciate the way you've addressed it here.

Is it officially dead, or are we on another hiatus?

Hiatus. I enjoy that thread too.

I missed it but from what I can piece together was not pretty but I have always had an issue with blanket fixes, punish the players not the group. I deal with far too often in my life.
Sloppy Saturdays rule:rockin:

Blanket fixes are not fair, I agree. You'd be surprised to know the other "fixes" that did not work. NIZZLE keeps coming back to that thread. Why?

And I still don't get what that has to do with any of us. But the mods have made it clear they don't exactly like us that are usually in that thread nor do they care for the thread itself so there ya go. My opinion but it is what it is.

Nope. Like the Tap Room, that thread is hilarious and a general good time for everyone in there. The mods only have an issue with one particular ex-member. The fact that he has strong support in that thread when he returns each time is why that thread is being affected.

And what's wrong with banning people? You act up and your gone but why do I pay for someone else's actions? I did nothing wrong but I can no longer participate in a thread that I honestly enjoyed, this forum is rather slow without it. I have tried a lot of beers I wouldn't have because of the thread.Please Mods let us have it back.

In time. I understand that that thread is a really great way to spend your evenings. I understand that, as much as an online forum can allow, that thread is full of camaraderie. I am truly sorry for affecting you all - I really mean that. I don't post much in that thread (I really only drink homebrew, so not much to say), but I have a rapport with many of you guys/gals in other threads. I'm surprised at the negative comments as I have always treated you all with respect, and I thought you knew my only intention as a mod was to keep the thread a fun and educational place for brewers and drinkers.

I wouldn't. Nothing about the way they've handled the situation make me wanna buy a membership

That's your prerogative. It's hard to make everyone happy all the time. All members, regardless of their membership, make this form what it is. I don't think any mod, ever, has encouraged any member to pay. It doesn't matter to us at all.

I just sent a PM to TX as I did last time, not sure it does any good but it can't hurt. Only time will tell.

TxBrew reads all emails. We (mods and admins) do discuss all issues, so don't feel that your messages are being ignored.

So, no, I will not pay for a premium membership just to BS in one thread. Untappd and text messaging can accomplish that. Between the over/selective moderation I've seen here and the crappy ass app that crashes and fails to connect every five minutes, I see nothing here worth $25 a year.

Yep, the app isn't great. I use the iPhone app occasionally, and it's just OK. It has occasional problems. I can't really do anything on it, but that says more about my ability to type on a 3" screen. But, it's better than no app at all. And, it's completely free.

This site has 172,000 members. At this very moment, a slow Sunday night, there are hundreds of active posters (members) typing in one of 430,000 threads (there are more than 5 million posts on this relatively young hobbyist website). You can see this info on the forum home screen. There are 7 mods and 2 admins. I don't think we could "over-moderate" this site. It might look like that if you spend a lot of time in one particular thread, though, I can see that.

 

[HoppyDaze]

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[HoppyDaze]

Same here. I see a lot of people on this site who say the info and help is well worth the money...blah, blah, blah. I don't feel the same way. I learned everything necessary for making good beer, by reading, reading, reading, and doing. I found this site by searching for a question I wanted some clarification on. The only thing I really use this forum for now is to hang out and drink with all the other functioning alcoholics here. So, no, I will not pay for a premium membership just to BS in one thread. Untappd and text messaging can accomplish that. Between the over/selective moderation I've seen here and the crappy ass app that crashes and fails to connect every five minutes, I see nothing here worth $25 a year.

Cheapskate! How about just supporting those who provide the community you frequent? My app has never crashed. Get a new phone cheapy. Or I will kick your ass!!!!!

 

[masonsjax]

172,000 (drinking) members and only an occasional ignorant unruly member. If you've ever spent time on other forums, you know the overall quality of this place is truly remarkable. I support whatever the mods need to do to keep it that way.

 

[DrunkleJon]

Passed thank you for letting us know what is going on.

 

[Yooper]

While passedpawn said it all, I want you all to know that while it was not an easy decision to put the thread on hiatus, it was unanimous.

He left out that there were indeed actual threats about going to a location where one of us lives, and inducing physical harm. Since some of us are not the least bit anonymous on this forum, it was taken as a true threat. It was full of hate, and obscenities, and threats.

While it was not one of you guys, it was "egged on" by some. Overall, the posts were reported but you did not see the actual obscene and threatening PMs. Trust me, it wasn't funny. It wasn't done in the spirit of joking or after having a few. There was a specific threat to a member of our mod team.

We are a pretty laid back group, and closing the thread wasn't done as a punishment to all. It was more of a stop-gap measure to stop the situation at this time.

If some of you feel that we picked on this thread- but we do not. Trust me, none of us has ever said a bad word about that thread and most of us like it, even if we don't post in it. I feel like I post way too much as it is, and don't want to invade your virtual pub- but I do enjoy it.

I appreciate the people who reported the posts as they came up. That is a great help to us.

 

[Homercidal]

Passed and Yooper have already said much, but I do want to chime in here with my own thoughts.

For one, I don't personally have any ill feeling toward this, or any other OT thread. In general, they kind of take care of themselves, and I like that. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard any of the mods talking down to a particular thread, even though some of them can be a little... Quirky...

Once in a long while, something comes along that is way beyond breaking the rules, however, and the reins need to pulled in a bit. As far as I know the "Alchy" thread is only on hiatus. I hope it comes back, because I appreciate the camaraderie that went on there, even though I don't personally join in.

We try hard to work with people here. All difficult decisions are made with the question in mind of, "How will this affect the site, and other members' experience for the best?"

As has been said before, there are A LOT of members. We want the site to be a pleasant experience for all, in their own way. There are diverse forums here with many different personalities. A little something for everyone, if you will. Hopefully the place you enjoyed hanging out will be back soon. We'll see.

 

[WesleyS]

Hi guys. I've got a lot of time to kill tonight, I thought I'd address some of the comments here. I understand your disappointment and I truly appreciate the way you've addressed it here.

Hiatus. I enjoy that thread too.

Blanket fixes are not fair, I agree. You'd be surprised to know the other "fixes" that did not work. NIZZLE keeps coming back to that thread. Why?

Nope. Like the Tap Room, that thread is hilarious and a general good time for everyone in there. The mods only have an issue with one particular ex-member. The fact that he has strong support in that thread when he returns each time is why that thread is being affected.

In time. I understand that that thread is a really great way to spend your evenings. I understand that, as much as an online forum can allow, that thread is full of camaraderie. I am truly sorry for affecting you all - I really mean that. I don't post much in that thread (I really only drink homebrew, so not much to say), but I have a rapport with many of you guys/gals in other threads. I'm surprised at the negative comments as I have always treated you all with respect, and I thought you knew my only intention as a mod was to keep the thread a fun and educational place for brewers and drinkers.

That's your prerogative. It's hard to make everyone happy all the time. All members, regardless of their membership, make this form what it is. I don't think any mod, ever, has encouraged any member to pay. It doesn't matter to us at all.

TxBrew reads all emails. We (mods and admins) do discuss all issues, so don't feel that your messages are being ignored.

Yep, the app isn't great. I use the iPhone app occasionally, and it's just OK. It has occasional problems. I can't really do anything on it, but that says more about my ability to type on a 3" screen. But, it's better than no app at all. And, it's completely free.

This site has 172,000 members. At this very moment, a slow Sunday night, there are hundreds of active posters (members) typing in one of 430,000 threads (there are more than 5 million posts on this relatively young hobbyist website). You can see this info on the forum home screen. There are 7 mods and 2 admins. I don't think we could "over-moderate" this site. It might look like that if you spend a lot of time in one particular thread, though, I can see that.

While passedpawn said it all, I want you all to know that while it was not an easy decision to put the thread on hiatus, it was unanimous.

He left out that there were indeed actual threats about going to a location where one of us lives, and inducing physical harm. Since some of us are not the least bit anonymous on this forum, it was taken as a true threat. It was full of hate, and obscenities, and threats.

While it was not one of you guys, it was "egged on" by some. Overall, the posts were reported but you did not see the actual obscene and threatening PMs. Trust me, it wasn't funny. It wasn't done in the spirit of joking or after having a few. There was a specific threat to a member of our mod team.

We are a pretty laid back group, and closing the thread wasn't done as a punishment to all. It was more of a stop-gap measure to stop the situation at this time.

If some of you feel that we picked on this thread- but we do not. Trust me, none of us has ever said a bad word about that thread and most of us like it, even if we don't post in it. I feel like I post way too much as it is, and don't want to invade your virtual pub- but I do enjoy it.

I appreciate the people who reported the posts as they came up. That is a great help to us.

Passed and Yooper have already said much, but I do want to chime in here with my own thoughts.

For one, I don't personally have any ill feeling toward this, or any other OT thread. In general, they kind of take care of themselves, and I like that. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard any of the mods talking down to a particular thread, even though some of them can be a little... Quirky...

Once in a long while, something comes along that is way beyond breaking the rules, however, and the reins need to pulled in a bit. As far as I know the "Alchy" thread is only on hiatus. I hope it comes back, because I appreciate the camaraderie that went on there, even though I don't personally join in.

We try hard to work with people here. All difficult decisions are made with the question in mind of, "How will this affect the site, and other members' experience for the best?"

As has been said before, there are A LOT of members. We want the site to be a pleasant experience for all, in their own way. There are diverse forums here with many different personalities. A little something for everyone, if you will. Hopefully the place you enjoyed hanging out will be back soon. We'll see.

Thanks for addressing some of the concerns of those who have posted here. Y'all could've just said "The thread is closed, deal with it."
But you didn't and I appreciate that.

 

[FermentNEthinG]

Thanks for the clarification from the Mods.

My opinion, Those who helped instigate in the matter should also be banned without discussion. Since you know who the guilty parties are, it would help those who want to act like a child throttle their actions in the future.

To tell you the truth this Nizzle guy is starting to wear on my patience and getting rid of the people that feed the troll will definitely ensure the thread can be given back to the guys/ladies who can act like decent human beings to the others who visit the thread.
There really isn't that much drama in beer drinking is there? :fro:



There are some great people that frequent the thread and it is nice to "pull up a seat" at your own discretion and join in the fray. As been said a multiple times, there is some great camaraderie among the people in the thread and, aside from the occasional person with histrionic personality disorder getting all crazy, it is a nice way to wind down a hectic day of work!

 

[WesleyS]

Cheapskate! How about just supporting those who provide the community you frequent? My app has never crashed. Get a new phone cheapy. Or I will kick your ass!!!!!

Was that a threat?
And yes, I am cheap. Since you're obviously not, then buy me a premium membership.
To be serious, though, I wasn't saying a premium membership isn't worth it at all, just not to me. Some people have learned a lot and received a lot of help from this site. To them it has been a valuable resource and they feel like giving back. I didn't find this forum until years after I started brewing. So I never had to start a thread asking if my beer is ruined or something of the like. I find myself using mainly the drinking thread and a few others and not paying much attention to the technical threads. So, for me, the price of a premium membership isn't worth it as much as it might be for others. And if none of that makes since, there's always this:

 

[SupervisingChildren]

So back to my best idea to date of the term "Sloppy Saturdays" which was put on hiatus last weekend, (on hbt anyways haha), I'm thinking weekly still as it was hilarious.
And thanks to the mods for their explanations and opening it back up!!! Yippee!

 

[nukebrewer]

Weekly's winning, but I know there's more than 10 people who frequent this thread. Come on people, exercise your right to vote!

 

[ChefRex]

Can't I vote again? This a democracy after all!

 

[Fuzzymittenbrewing]

Post the link in the alchy thread

 

[Qhrumphf]

If I drink enough, I don't bother with edits anyway. So I'm game.

 

[mcbaumannerb]

Sorry ... Busy weekend and I missed this thread. Definitely monthly. If we all posted jibberish every Saturday night, my anal retentive head would probably explode!

On the other topic ... What happened on Friday night was disgusting. We all came here for one reason or another to learn/help/share about brewing beer. Over time we make friends and gravitate toward some social interactions and that's to be expected - this isn't a professional forum (no disrespect to those who have made the jump.). To denigrate, threaten or otherwise berate another member is galling. I totally understand the reaction (putting thread on hiatus) and applaud Pappers reaching out to the person in question to hopefully put that unfortunate situation to bed. I have the utmost respect for the mods and this site and hope we can move past all this.

 

[Whut]

Post the link in the alchy thread

It's exactly how I wound up here. C'mon weekly. Heck, I'm doing it now anyway!

 

[nukebrewer]

Sorry ... Busy weekend and I missed this thread. Definitely monthly. If we all posted jibberish every Saturday night, my anal retentive head would probably explode!

Well, looks like we'll be one member short here in a couple weeks.