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Not sure where everyone is getting propane refills but Southern Flame Propane has the cheapest propane refill that I have been able to find and they sell local honey too. I'm hoping to do a mead soon and I've seen local honey at Bet Mar and Southern Flame.
 
Not sure where everyone is getting propane refills but Southern Flame Propane has the cheapest propane refill that I have been able to find and they sell local honey too. I'm hoping to do a mead soon and I've seen local honey at Bet Mar and Southern Flame.


I do propane exchange ad wal mart by my house. Its like 14$

Also i just ordered an oz of mosaic and simcoe lupulin powder shipped for less than four dollars. I got a ten dollar gift card for filling out a survey for my insurance plan lol sweet!
 
Not sure where everyone is getting propane refills but Southern Flame Propane has the cheapest propane refill that I have been able to find and they sell local honey too. I'm hoping to do a mead soon and I've seen local honey at Bet Mar and Southern Flame.
What are they charging for fills? I typically do exchanges for around $20 because it's convenient. But I would love to find cheaper. I prefer to do fills over exchanges for obvious reasons. But there isn't anywhere super close to me that does fills.
 
What are they charging for fills? I typically do exchanges for around $20 because it's convenient. But I would love to find cheaper. I prefer to do fills over exchanges for obvious reasons. But there isn't anywhere super close to me that does fills.


It's $16 to refill from empty. $.80/lb. they are near the flea market on highway 1
 
I other news, my first attempt at a lacto (Goodbelly) + sacc (644) copitch is not going well. I only added 0.5 oz saaz (for 2.8 IBUs) but apparently that's too much for the lacto! I thought I would be fine if I stayed under 4. But it's been 13 days and the ph is only at 3.64. Not sour enough for me!

Uggghhh!!! Now my only viable option, really, is to brew a small batch with no hops, sour it as much as possible with Goodbelly, then blend the two. Looks like I'll be doing an extract beer for the first time in a looooooong time!
 
I other news, my first attempt at a lacto (Goodbelly) + sacc (644) copitch is not going well. I only added 0.5 oz saaz (for 2.8 IBUs) but apparently that's too much for the lacto! I thought I would be fine if I stayed under 4. But it's been 13 days and the ph is only at 3.64. Not sour enough for me!

Uggghhh!!! Now my only viable option, really, is to brew a small batch with no hops, sour it as much as possible with Goodbelly, then blend the two. Looks like I'll be doing an extract beer for the first time in a looooooong time!


How long are you planning to spur the unhopped wort with the lacto before blending? I've never done a sour but it's on the list
 
How long are you planning to spur the unhopped wort with the lacto before blending? I've never done a sour but it's on the list
As long as it takes. I've always used a commercial strain in the past (OYL-605) and the last time I used that it took about 19 hours to drop to 3.2ish. But I'm using Goodbelly probiotic shots on this one. I'm hoping it'll drop that low in a couple days. Once it drops to where I want it, I'll blend it with the main beer and toss in a pack of 05 to finish fermenting out the new beer. I'm so pissed that I made this mistake. But at least I can (hopefully) remedy it with an easy extract beer so I don't have to do a full on AG brew day for 2 gallons of beer.
 
Anybody got any suggestions for the lupulin powder i got. I got mosaic and simcoe. Ive heard mosaic will overpower most other hops. Also i think mosaic is a descendant of simcoe. Maybe i should use one of them in one ipa and another in a different ipa? Or do you think i should use one for the whirlpool and one for dry hopping the same beer?
 
Anybody got any suggestions for the lupulin powder i got. I got mosaic and simcoe. Ive heard mosaic will overpower most other hops. Also i think mosaic is a descendant of simcoe. Maybe i should use one of them in one ipa and another in a different ipa? Or do you think i should use one for the whirlpool and one for dry hopping the same beer?

Me, personally, I like to keep the same hops in WP and DH. Mosaic and simcoe work well together, BUT, I have not used the powder for either of them (yet). I, again personally, like to use mosaic with fruitier hops, e.g., citra. Hell, citra/mosaic is probably what I use in my NEIPAs more often than not.
 
Me, personally, I like to keep the same hops in WP and DH. Mosaic and simcoe work well together, BUT, I have not used the powder for either of them (yet). I, again personally, like to use mosaic with fruitier hops, e.g., citra. Hell, citra/mosaic is probably what I use in my NEIPAs more often than not.


Well i formulated a recipe

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What do you think? The higher acid numbers are the powder additions. Not sure about the yeast. I have a pack of s04 at the house which is a english strain but i know you use wlp007 for your neipas, which is also an english strain right? So i thought it could work

Or i could just scratch it and do an all mosaic ipa and a separate all simcoe ipa?

Right now I have a pack of S04, an oz of simcoe powder, an oz of mosaic powder, a lb of corn sugar and 2 lbs light dme so i still have some stuff to buy for that recipe or i could just change it
 
Well i formulated a recipe

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What do you think? The higher acid numbers are the powder additions. Not sure about the yeast. I have a pack of s04 at the house which is a english strain but i know you use wlp007 for your neipas, which is also an english strain right? So i thought it could work

Close, I use WLP008 more often than not on my NEIPAs. It's billed as an East Coast Ale yeast. But regardless, I think you'd be fine using 04 here.

Or i could just scratch it and do an all mosaic ipa and a separate all simcoe ipa?
As much as I absolutely freaking love mosaic, I don't know that I love it by itself nearly as much.

Right now I have a pack of S04, an oz of simcoe powder, an oz of mosaic powder, a lb of corn sugar and 2 lbs light dme so i still have some stuff to buy for that recipe or i could just change it
All good brother. You're heading down the right path. Have you considered adding some wheat in the grain bill? I haven't done an extract NEIPA, but way back when I did extract beers, wheat DME was a staple in most of my IPAs. Adding some wheat could give you some more haze and round out/soften the mouthfeel.

Also, I would move the 15 and 5 minute hops to flameout or whirlpool. This is just personal preference, but for all my hoppy beers I do either a 60 minute or FWH, and everything else at flameout or later. I've found much better aroma and hop flavor this way and adding them in the boil just seemed like a waste to me. Again, that's personal preference, do with it as you wish. I'd also take that 12 day simcoe dry hop and move it to whirlpool with the mosaic, i.e., mosaic and simcoe in the whirlpool. Let me know what you end up doing. Cheers brother!
 
Thanks! So you would do the hop additions like this?

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Thats all the powder in the whirlpool it would be a 30 min boil to save time which is why im doing extract anyway. I dont get much time these days so its gonna be extract or dont brew lol

Also i dont particularly like wheat. I know this because the palmetto huger st is a wheat chinook citra ipa and i left some bottles in my pantry for a while one time and the wheat fell out. When i poured it in a glass it was clearer and i liked it much better. I just want a light colored hop bomb lol! Dont really care if its hazy or not. The s04 makes it finish a little sweeter than if i used s05 i guess itll work
 
Thanks! So you would do the hop additions like this?

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Thats all the powder in the whirlpool it would be a 30 min boil to save time which is why im doing extract anyway. I dont get much time these days so its gonna be extract or dont brew lol

Also i dont particularly like wheat. I know this because the palmetto huger st is a wheat chinook citra ipa and i left some bottles in my pantry for a while one time and the wheat fell out. When i poured it in a glass it was clearer and i liked it much better. I just want a light colored hop bomb lol! Dont really care if its hazy or not. The s04 makes it finish a little sweeter than if i used s05 i guess itll work
Yeah brother, I like that hop schedule much better. Don't think I'd change a thing. Let us know how it turns out!
 
Ok fellas (and gals!), I think some advice/guidance.

My brother has planted a seed in my brew brain to do a sour dreamsicle beer. Sort of a sour orange cream ale. I'm not concerned with the souring aspect of it as I'll sour with lacto then ferment out with sacc yeast, i.e., kettle sour (for the most part).

I need some guidance with lactose and vanilla.

First and foremost, I'll probably do my house NEIPA grist, or a variation thereof, to get that hazy, creamy, softer mouthfeel:
2-Row (75%)
Flaked Oats (19%)
White Wheat (6%)

I've never worked with lactose before, so that's one area I need guidance on. I don't want it overpoweringly sweet. Moreover, I know I will have to kill (boil) the lactobacillus prior to adding the lactose because (as I recently discovered), lactobacillus can ferment lactose (unlike sacc). Who's used lactose before? What beer? And how much? Currently I'm thinking of only adding around 7 oz. of lactose at 10 minutes left in the boil. Any thoughts on this dosage rate?

Next, I need advice on the vanilla. I've never used vanilla either. But I'm considering doing a vodka tincture with one (1) vanilla bean scraped/chopped and added to about 2 oz. vodka. Then add the tincture at kegging (similar to Morrey's marg gose tinctures). Another question I have is with regard to processing the vanilla bean. When I say "scraped/chopped," does that mean I scrape out the insides and discard them and chop the remaining bean and just use that? Or do I want to keep the insides I scrape out? Any advice would be awesome.

Feel free to toss out anything else I may be missing or not thinking about. Thanks, y'all.
 
Yeah brother, I like that hop schedule much better. Don't think I'd change a thing. Let us know how it turns out!



Thanks. So when you whirlpool, since i dont have a pump i just chill to 180 then stop it and add the powder additions then stir the whirlpool for 10 minutes right? Then finish chilling. How do you do it?
I wish i could help with your sour though i dont know much about them. I believe you want the insides that you scrape out the bean. I could be wrong though
 
Thanks. So when you whirlpool, since i dont have a pump i just chill to 180 then stop it and add the powder additions then stir the whirlpool for 10 minutes right? Then finish chilling. How do you do it?
I wish i could help with your sour though i dont know much about them. I believe you want the insides that you scrape out the bean. I could be wrong though
No worries, brother. I don't have a pump right now either.

I do my whirlpools a little cooler, usually around 170 (to keep from isomerizing all those oils which would lead to more bitterness). Once it's at or around 170, I toss in the WP hops and give it a good stir to get a vortex going, then I leave it. Periodically I'll give it another big stir to get another vortex going, but I don't stir it the whole time. I do my whirlpools for at least 20 minutes, 30 if I'm not getting impatient. Ergo, I definitely don't stir it the whole time. Sure, I could probably get more/better aroma if I stirred it the whole time. But to hell with all that!
 
No worries, brother. I don't have a pump right now either.

I do my whirlpools a little cooler, usually around 170 (to keep from isomerizing all those oils which would lead to more bitterness). Once it's at or around 170, I toss in the WP hops and give it a good stir to get a vortex going, then I leave it. Periodically I'll give it another big stir to get another vortex going, but I don't stir it the whole time. I do my whirlpools for at least 20 minutes, 30 if I'm not getting impatient. Ergo, I definitely don't stir it the whole time. Sure, I could probably get more/better aroma if I stirred it the whole time. But to hell with all that!

That's almost exactly how I whirlpool. I may start it around 180-190° but stir vigorously for a few seconds, repeating 5-6 times over 20 or so minutes.

I also know nothing about sours so I got nothing there. Sorry...
 
So when is the next event at DIY? Is it next saturday? The 30th
 
Calling all dudes with pumps.

I've found a deal for some pumps. One is a chugger with a poly head, like new, $50. The other is a Little Giant, mag drive, poly head, like new, $50.

Sounds pretty good to me, but I know dick all about pumps. Any thoughts on which one I should go for? I read one thing where someone was comparing the LG pumps to chugger, and seemed to like the LG better because it didn't lose prime like chugger does sometime. Any thoughts? Any issue with these having poly heads?
 
So I would go with a chugger pump because if your not satisfied with the poly head the. You can swap to stainless head. I'm pretty sure they are both magnetic drive. If you rebuild a head then you know the most important thing is cleaning the main bearing that can get stuck over time with high sugar batches. Pumps are sweet and will change the way you brew beer. If I could suggest one thing...get two pumps, your system and brew day will thank you later for that.
 
So I would go with a chugger pump because if your not satisfied with the poly head the. You can swap to stainless head. I'm pretty sure they are both magnetic drive. If you rebuild a head then you know the most important thing is cleaning the main bearing that can get stuck over time with high sugar batches. Pumps are sweet and will change the way you brew beer. If I could suggest one thing...get two pumps, your system and brew day will thank you later for that.

I am definitely planning on getting two eventually. Just wanted to snag one of these while I could for $50. Good call on the head swap. That's the only thing that was keeping me from jumping on it, but I didn't realize I could just change out the heads. Thanks brother.
 
A bit of a long read but its very interesting and congrats on your growing family! Im about to have my second son next month! So I know what its like to not have time to brew. I would be very interested in helping you out if I werent so busy. Also you are in lexjngton right? If its not too personal, Im kind of curious as to what part? I live near lexington and i deliver for UPS in the heart of lexington (sunset, #6, old cherokee area)
 
Not a whole lot, sup with you?
Been battling this co-pitch sour beer that's been my most challenging beer yet! Apricot sour is shaping up to be one of my best yet. Need to get off my ass and finish the keezer though!

Hey guys, I’m hoping to see how many people are interested in this project I’m considering. Figured I’d drop it in here too. Let me know if any of you are interested in this (I already know at least one of you is!).

https://brewublog.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/where-do-we-go-from-here-collaborative-iterations/
I'm in! But you already know that as I told you on reddit (VinPeppBBQ).

A bit of a long read but its very interesting and congrats on your growing family! Im about to have my second son next month! So I know what its like to not have time to brew. I would be very interested in helping you out if I werent so busy. Also you are in lexjngton right? If its not too personal, Im kind of curious as to what part? I live near lexington and i deliver for UPS in the heart of lexington (sunset, #6, old cherokee area)
Man I wish you delivered downtown! Always thought it would be cool to have a homebrewer UPS guy. I'd give you some homebrew when you dropped off my packages!
 
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