Saison Dupont Grain Bill

[kiwi_daz]

I love Dupont and wanted to make some for summer. Last night I did some snooping around the internet to find out some info on making it. The info I found commonly was 3724 yeast, 100% pils with EKG and Styrian goldings. The other factor was to do a step mash instead of single infusion.

well I did all those using dingemans pils and the wort looks way off in colour. Personally I think there may be some munich or carabelge in there? considering that pils is only 3.2 ebc give or take. The dupont beer is very orange (pic below of commercial)

Anyone else had the same thoughts?

 

[m00ps]

its likely from a longer boil which will naturally create more caramelization.

Personally, I'd just do pils and 20-30% wheat/rye/oats and some cane sugar. Duponts rocky head is a result of their mash step technique (slow rise from liek 130 to 170) but using something like a flaked adjunct can get you there

 

[kiwi_daz]

its likely from a longer boil which will naturally create more caramelization.


the reading ive done is that the long boil thing is not true, to change the colour you would need to boil for hours - and I mean hours to remove alot of water. Unless the scotch ale technique was used and I very much doubt that.

 

[beergolf]

Here is the recipe posted on CSI website. Their recipies are very good so I would expect it to be close.

http://www.candisyrup.com/uploads/6/0/3/5/6035776/saison_dupont_clone_-_040.pdf

 

[kiwi_daz]

Here is the recipe posted on CSI website. Their recipies are very good so I would expect it to be close.

http://www.candisyrup.com/uploads/6/0/3/5/6035776/saison_dupont_clone_-_040.pdf

I very much doubt it, dont want to be the hater but their recipes seem to all contain candi syrup (surprise surprise) and I doubt its single infusion.

thanks though

Actually could be something in this with the candi syrup.......

 

[beergolf]

Of course their recipes all contain candi syrup.. DUH.

All I know is that I have tried a few of their recipes and they were very good. I have not tried the Saison Dupont recipe though.

 

[kiwi_daz]

Of course their recipes all contain candi syrup.. DUH.

All I know is that I have tried a few of their recipes and they were very good. I have not tried the Saison Dupont recipe though.

ha, thanks for that. I might try adding some dark candi I have on hand which will alter the colour also.

 

[BenCL]

wort looks way off in colour.

This pretty unimportant compared to things like it tasting correct, being carbonated correctly.

 

[kiwi_daz]

This pretty unimportant compared to things like it tasting correct, being carbonated correctly.

yeah true, but if the colour is off there is a good chance it will taste different, thats the least of my worries at the moment as the 3724 is giving me hell. Ive never had issues with it before.........