Rye IPA

[matzou]

Hello everyone,

I would like to try my first beer with rye, and seems I'am running short of IPA I was thinking of an IPA!:

I would like to know if the following recipe looks correct to you, probably silly as everyone has different sensibility to rye I guess, but I would expect to "feel" the rye in these proportions:

Recipe Specifications for 2.5 GAL
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Boil Size: 15,02 l
Post Boil Volume: 13,02 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 10,00 l
Bottling Volume: 9,00 l
Estimated OG: 1,065 SG
Estimated Color: 7,5 EBC
Estimated IBU: 59,3 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70,00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 87,5 %
Boil Time: 30 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
17,00 l IFA Eliges 8L - Gadis Water 1 -
3,60 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60,0 mins Water Agent 2 -
2,20 kg (fr) CHÂTEAU PILSEN 2RP (3,0 EBC) Grain 3 70,5 %
0,50 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5,9 EBC) Grain 4 16,0 %
0,32 kg Maris otter (Simpsons) (5,0 EBC) Grain 5 10,3 %
0,10 kg Rye, Flaked (3,9 EBC) Grain 6 3,2 %
25,00 g Nelson Sauvin [11,70 %] - First Wort 30, Hop 7 42,3 IBUs
10,00 g Motueka [6,80 %] - First Wort 30,0 min Hop 8 9,8 IBUs
40,00 g Nelson Sauvin [11,70 %] - Steep/Whirlpoo Hop 9 5,5 IBUs
20,00 g Motueka [6,80 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20,0 Hop 10 1,6 IBUs
1,0 pkg SIGMUND'S VOSS KVEIK (Yeast Bay #) Yeast 11 -
70,00 g Nelson Sauvin [11,70 %] - Dry Hop 5,0 Da Hop 12 0,0 IBUs
35,00 g Motueka [6,80 %] - Dry Hop 5,0 Days Hop 13 0,0 IBUs

In pounds
4.8 of pilsner
1.1 of rye malt
0.7 of marris otter
0.22 of flaked rye

Hops:
0.9 oz of Nelson sauvin FWH @ 30min 42IBU
0.35 oz of Motueka FWH @ 30min 9.8IBU
1.4 oz of Nelson sauvin @ hopstand 167f for 20min
0.7 of Motueka @ hopstand 167f for 20min
2.5 oz of Nelson sauvin dry hop @day 2 during
1.25 oz of motueka dry hop @day 2 during

150so4-100CL

Hopping to get orange ester and fast fermentation from the yeast fermented @ 35c/95f

 

[ProblemChild]

Nelson for bittering?

 

[tektonjp]

My thoughts as well. What a waste for a beautiful hop, IMO.

 

[Eucrid]

Looks good but agree, add that bittering Nelson into your whirlpool and use magnum, chinook, warrior, etc for bittering.

As for the Rye I think you've the perfect amount. I'm making a session Rye IPA today that I make often and its got 16% of rye (but no flaked). Just don't try to lauter to fast or you may get gummed up.

 

[matzou]

Nelson is the hop I have the most at the moment, but yeah I could throw some magnum instead.
I was worried that the magnum @ 30 min could impart a earthy taste, and was curious to see how NS @ fwh would act.

As for the lautering should be no problem since I'am biab, otherwise the amount of Rye looks good ?

 

[dstockwell]

Are you only boiling for 30 min. FWH is added prior to boil and steeped as temp is increasing towards boil.

 

[matzou]

Yeah always boiling 30 mins so far with no ill effect(as far as I can tell). But maybe the earthy/green taste from the magnum bittering charge is just me overthinking it a bit...

 

[tektonjp]

I would say that you would be challenged to find the earthiness taste from the magnum considering it'll be sitting in 15% rye and all that NS and Motoeka aroma.

 

[matzou]

Ok thanks tekton I was overthinking it with the magnum, I'am going to swap it for the NS.

Otherwise if the rye proportion looks fine I will just go ahead and brew that anytime next time.

Thanks

 

[Staylow]

6.8 lbs of grain in a 10 gallon batch with an OG of 1.065? Something doesn't add up. I think you'd be luck to hit 1.020.

 

[matzou]

:hs: All good

6.8 lbs of grain in a 10 gallon batch with an OG of 1.065? Something doesn't add up. I think you'd be luck to hit 1.020.

Recipe Specifications for 2.5 GAL
--------------------------
Boil Size: 15,02 l
Post Boil Volume: 13,02 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 10,00 l