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Rye flavor- malted vs flaked? crystal too?

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Add just enough Carafa Special III (etc) to turn it dark without really affecting the flavor
Thats exactly what I did, but I didn't realize the whole grayish color thing. I just didn't want a pale beer, haha. So I tossed 1oz of Carafa special II in a 3G batch to darken it up a bit.

I use both crystal rye and rye malt in a great little rye lager. I found that I enjoy about 15-18% rye malt, and a max of 3-4% crystal. One could go much higher on the malt, but I find that my personal sweet spot. The crystal gets really squirrelly over 5% though.
 
To make it a bit darker, jack up the body (mouthfeel), and mask the grayness by incorporating @z-bob's idea of using Carafa III, I just dreamed up Ryetoberfest.

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I'm almost sorry I brought up the gray thing now. Sorry guys, I apparently haven't brewed a pale rye beer in quite a long time. I did make a really mean rye stout a couple years ago though. Won an award entered as an "oatmeal" stout. ;)
 
Very interesting, this discussion about rye. I have used flaked rye in a couple of beers, but really couldn't pick out much, if any noticeable flavor contribution. I think I used 1 lb. in a 5 gal. batch. Now, my interest is piqued. I'll have to try a recipe with a mix of flaked and malted rye, at 30-40% of the grist. I like Hersbrucker for hopping German beers as well. Thanks for the inspiration, y'all.
 
When I want to make a rye brew, I just use some rye flour from the market. Spice comes through.
 
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