Rogue's House train

[Brewer Gerard]

Well i was just having a glance at the thread that discusses wyeast 1768 discontinuation and how hard it is to get your hands on Rogue's strain. Somebody suggested that the dregs of a bottle could be used to grow up a culture to do a batch. Amazingly i can get a few of rogues beers locally but as far as i can see it has been filtered ta f**k.

Would there be any viable cells in a filtered beer? Really would like to do a dead guy clone and having the same yeast would surely aid success.

 

[ultravista]

House Train ....

I have used Pacman for many a Rogue beer, and to be blunt, I am really starting to dislike it. When I was an all-grain newbie, my first few batches were Dead Guy, then Shakespeare Stout, Dead Guy again, the a Double Dead guy.

For reasons unknown (then), each had an underlying taste that I just could not pinpoint. Not bad, not good, just there, in every batch.

Eventually I moved onto other brews but revisited a Double Dead guy in April. Using Pacman again, that damned unknown flavor reappeared. It is the yeast itself.

My brew process does not incorporate clarifying/fining and I suspect that Pacman likes to linger. Just an uneducated guess.

From what I have read, to address your question, is that you can cultivate Pacman from bottle dregs. I haven't - others have.

 

[Brewer Gerard]

House Train ....

Just saw that now

From what I have read, to address your question, is that you can cultivate Pacman from bottle dregs. I haven't - others have.

mmmm

Just wondering has filtration been incorporated in more recent years.

I used to buy sierra nevada beers that had sedimentation but you don't get that anymore. In relation to the odd flavour you speak of can't say i get it in their commercial beers.

Sod it i'll just give it a try and report back whats a few € DME after all

 

[Denny]

Rogue filters very few beers...almost none AFAIK. SN bottle or keg conditions everything they make. No matter what it looks like, there's yeast in there.

 

[MedicMang]

Dang man. Your from Ireland? I have 10 gallons of a light ale sittin on Pacman right now. When its done I'm going to have a huge culture. Might not be worth shipping that far though.

 

[donk5]

Discontinued? I bought some about a month ago with a date that was not that old. Was this really recent?

 

[Brewer Gerard]

Cheers for the offer mang. Hopefully it won't come to that.

Donk perhaps i interpreted the thread incorrectly, i'll see can i add a link later.

Cheers for info denny

 

[Brewer Gerard]

Dang man. Your from Ireland?

Yup and we have pretty much one decent home brew supplier who is quite good but if they don't have it nobody has

 

[TrubHead]

Rogue filters very few beers...almost none AFAIK. SN bottle or keg conditions everything they make. No matter what it looks like, there's yeast in there.

I bottle harvested from a single bomber of Dead Guy but it took a handful of "step ups" to get it noticeably moving. It's a good strain but does leave a slight "fruity" taste where as 1056 is more neutral.

 

[Denny]

I bottle harvested from a single bomber of Dead Guy but it took a handful of "step ups" to get it noticeably moving. It's a good strain but does leave a slight "fruity" taste where as 1056 is more neutral.

I can't recall ever harvesting from a bottle that didn't take at least 3 steps to get enough yeast to pitch.

 

[Brewer Gerard]

Whats your process for doing the steps. Do you have set volumes for building up?

 

[Denny]

Whats your process for doing the steps. Do you have set volumes for building up?

It's been a long time since I've done it, but IIRC it was maybe 50 ml. to 500 ml. to 2-3L. To tell ya the truth, I'd rather just buy the yeast...I'm lazy....er, pragmatic....like that!

 

[Brewer Gerard]

Koolaboola, I'll give it a shot.