Risk of bottlwboms?

[kh54s10]

Should I open them all in maybe after 2days and recap? How much that will help? Or should I wait longer? I really don't want any explosions...

Try one every couple of days, if you get a huge hiss or gushers open them all and recap. If you don't have gushers by a week or ao from now you should be ok.

 

[kh54s10]

Seeing those bottles - definitely check them for gushers. And don't exceed 3.0 volumes while at the same time being absolutely sure that the beer has fully fermented. I have seen references on limits for standard bottles usually at 3.5 to 4 volumes and some say don't even go to 3.0 for fear of bombs.

 

[HemanBrew]

Well. Thanks for help. I think I check another bottle tomorrow to see what's going on. (I'm feeling so noob)

 

[CodeSection]

FWIW, there is a lot of headspace in those bottles. How are you filling them?

 

[HemanBrew]

FWIW, there is a lot of headspace in those bottles. How are you filling them?

Siphon + bottling wand. The smallest bottle has of course to much head space because I didn't have enough beer to fill it.

I think in this batch the bottles have little less headspace than the last batch (the picture).

 

[CodeSection]

Siphon + bottling wand. The smallest bottle has of course to much head space because I didn't have enough beer to fill it.

I think in this batch the bottles have little less headspace than the last batch (the picture).

So now I am confused. Those pictures are not pictures of the bottles you bottled days ago that you were concerned about bottle bombs with?

Regardless, there is way too much headspace in those bottles. You could easily eliminate at least another 1.5" just by allowing the beer and/or StarSan residual bubbles (if any bubbles remained in the bottles prior to filling) to reach the top of the bottle. You could even eliminate more headspace after filling to the top of the bottle by placing the bottom tip of the bottling wand just inside the lip of the bottle and press slightly against the inside of the bottle.

My suggestion is to drink the beer quickly to avoid oxidation.

EDIT: Clarified by adding "residual bubbles (if any bubbles remained in the bottles prior to filling)"

 

[Dland]

Regardless, there is way too much headspace in those bottles. You could easily eliminate at least another 1.5" just by allowing the beer or StarSan to reach the top of the bottle.

You leave starsan in the bottles?

 

[CodeSection]

You leave starsan in the bottles?

LOL, nope. To clarify, I should have said "Starsan residual bubbles" if there were any in the bottles. Thanks for pointing that out!

 

[HemanBrew]

So now I am confused. Those pictures are not pictures of the bottles you bottled days ago that you were concerned about bottle bombs with?

Regardless, there is way too much headspace in those bottles. You could easily eliminate at least another 1.5" just by allowing the beer and/or StarSan residual bubbles (if any bubbles remained in the bottles prior to filling) to reach the top of the bottle. You could even eliminate more headspace after filling to the top of the bottle by placing the bottom tip of the bottling wand just inside the lip of the bottle and press slightly against the inside of the bottle.

My suggestion is to drink the beer quickly to avoid oxidation.

EDIT: Clarified by adding "residual bubbles (if any bubbles remained in the bottles prior to filling)"

I bottled the batch that Im concerned today... Maybe 6 hours ago. The picture is from a previous batch like 2 months ago, but the bottles are the same.

I put the bottles that I'm concerned to safer place and I didn't took a picture of them, so I send the old picture (same bottles, different batch).

Ps. English is not my native language so I might be easily misunderstood.

 

[CodeSection]

I bottled the batch that Im concerned today... Maybe 6 hours ago. The picture is from a previous batch like 2 months ago, but the bottles are the same.

I put the bottles that I'm concerned to safer place and I didn't took a picture of them, so I send the old picture (same bottles, different batch).

Ps. English is not my native language so I might be easily misunderstood.

Ahh, got it....you were just trying to show what type of bottles you were using. Thank you for clarifying that for me!

 

[ncbrewer]

You say you primed to 3 volumes. The priming sugar calculation should be based on the volume in the bottling bucket - not the fermenter. If you based it on fermenter volume, it is higher carb level than calculated.

 

[ncbrewer]

Edit: Duplicate post

 

[BrewnWKopperKat]

Regardless, there is way too much headspace in those bottles. You could easily eliminate at least another 1.5" just by allowing the beer and/or StarSan residual bubbles (if any bubbles remained in the bottles prior to filling) to reach the top of the bottle. You could even eliminate more headspace after filling to the top of the bottle by placing the bottom tip of the bottling wand just inside the lip of the bottle and press slightly against the inside of the bottle.

The tip of my bottiing wand/filler seems to displace the right amount of beer (when the wand in the bottle) to get a proper fill. I purposefully over fill each bottle before I remove the wand.

Moving on from the bottling tip (and no longer replying to @CodeSection s comment)

I use one gal carboys for six-packs test batches, so I have plenty of beer for hydrometer samples, bottling losses, ... If I want more beer, I use a bigger fermenter.

If "every drop of beer is precious", then "some drops have a special calling" to help make great beer.

I put the bottles that I'm concerned to safer place and I didn't took a picture of them, so I send the old picture (same bottles, different batch).

Looks like the "classic" bottle bomb picture (at HBT) has disappeared. It was here (link). Photo is, at the moment anyway, here (link). Personally, I'm not convinced that there is a "safe" container to hold those bottles or a "safe" way to open them.

Even ketchup can ferment and cause bottle bombs (link) feels like a good to close out this reply.

 

[HemanBrew]

29h since bottling... I know it's too early to check, but I did open and recap another bottle... nothing unusual with that... Just a small hiss...

I think I'll open another one tomorrow.

 

[HemanBrew]

It's 3 days since bottling. Opened one and recapped. In the picture you can see the small amount of gusher. Hiss-sound was a bit less than what you would expect from normal carbonation.
Maybe tomorrow I drink one and decide if I'll open and recap them all.

 

[JimRausch]

Question HemanBrew: Did you perhaps measure FG after you added the priming sugar? If so, then the reading would be artificially high and all is well. Hopefully that's the answer.........

 

[HemanBrew]

Question HemanBrew: Did you perhaps measure FG after you added the priming sugar? If so, then the reading would be artificially high and all is well. Hopefully that's the answer.........

No, it's before priming.
This is what I did:
-boiled wather and sugar and put that in big kettle.
-siphoned the 1dl of beer to mesurementglass for FG.
-siphon the rest of the beer to the kettle where is the sugars
-siphoned from the kettle to bottles.

 

[kh54s10]

That picture looks like what I would expect with a properly primed beer. Only if beer sprays all over the room do you need to uncap to relieve the pressure.

 

[HemanBrew]

That picture looks like what I would expect with a properly primed beer. Only if beer sprays all over the room do you need to uncap to relieve the pressure.

I'm thinking I want to relieve the pressure before it sprays all over... So I get to drink the beer and not clean it from the walls.
The picture is after 3days in bottle, so I guess it will still generate more pressure.

 

[kh54s10]

I'm thinking I want to relieve the pressure before it sprays all over... So I get to drink the beer and not clean it from the walls.
The picture is after 3days in bottle, so I guess it will still generate more pressure.

But that doesn't look like it is anywhere near over carbonated. If your beer was done but had a high FG you could have properly primed beers. If you open them and there is not a problem you will create one - flat beers.

 

[HemanBrew]

Opened one at day 4. Not wery much carbonation yet. Taste wery sweet... a bit like barleywine.
I have hope for the other bottles so I will not open/recap them if they stay fine.

I hope I cans see from the bottlecaps if the pressure gets too high...

 

[CodeSection]

At this point I would suggest you stop opening the bottles. Just relax and give it at least a full week before opening another bottle.

It is one thing about being concerned, it is another thing to overreact. I'm not trying to be critical here, especially with all the posts about the dangers of overcarbing. But the fact remains 1) there is no evidence that you have overcarbed and 2) it is too early to tell since you only bottled last Saturday (~4-5 days ago). Give it time.

Again, you have too much headspace in those bottles.....

 

[dmtaylor]

Yeah, I'll admit that the evidence does not support my initial claim that these will overcarb. Please accept my sincere apologies. We can't all be correct all of the time.

 

[Jokester]

I saw a video once about opening a properly primed beer. He opened one just a day or so after priming and it gushed. A little later they overflowed a little and when fully conditioned at a few weeks they were fine.

That is true. I put a few grains of sugar in a cam lock bottle filled with one of my brut's. It immediately overflowed, but I quickly cam locked it. A week later it seemed to be lightly carbonated just perfectly. I thought it was because my camlock may be leaking, but now I know better. That's how its supposed to be. I guess yeast running for fresh sugar releases co2 trapped in the beer not to mention the light agitation of dropping the sugar in. Then as yeast eat the sugar and make co2, it remains lightly carbonated till you open it, where by it just hisses and little gets out.
Cool.
Srinath.

 

[kh54s10]

That is true. I put a few grains of sugar in a cam lock bottle filled with one of my brut's. It immediately overflowed, but I quickly cam locked it. A week later it seemed to be lightly carbonated just perfectly. I thought it was because my camlock may be leaking, but now I know better. That's how its supposed to be. I guess yeast running for fresh sugar releases co2 trapped in the beer not to mention the light agitation of dropping the sugar in. Then as yeast eat the sugar and make co2, it remains lightly carbonated till you open it, where by it just hisses and little gets out.
Cool.
Srinath.

What is really happening when opening a bottle early is that the co2 has not gone into solution, and it foams. Once the co2 has gone into solution you get carbonation and that will appear as bubbles rising, giving the glass of beer a head.

Adding sugar gave the beer that was slightly carbonated nucleation points and it foamed up.

 

[HemanBrew]

At this point I would suggest you stop opening the bottles. Just relax and give it at least a full week before opening another bottle.

It is one thing about being concerned, it is another thing to overreact. I'm not trying to be critical here, especially with all the posts about the dangers of overcarbing. But the fact remains 1) there is no evidence that you have overcarbed and 2) it is too early to tell since you only bottled last Saturday (~4-5 days ago). Give it time.

Again, you have too much headspace in those bottles.....

So I have waited 2 weeks now. Opened one. There was not much carbonation. I wonder why? It been in room temperature the whole 2 weeks.

The taste was wery sweet. Like a sweet barleywine. Maybe I should let this batch age some...?

 

[bracconiere]

i have to admit i skipped most posts...but if it's a 1 gallon batch, just throw them in the fridge after a week, drink them in a couple days.....

 

[CodeSection]

So I have waited 2 weeks now. Opened one. There was not much carbonation. I wonder why? It been in room temperature the whole 2 weeks.

The taste was wery sweet. Like a sweet barleywine. Maybe I should let this batch age some...?

We are obviously missing something here. With the amount of priming sugar you used, you should have seen more carbonation after two weeks as compared to what you were seeing after a couple of days.

When I went back and closely looked at your capped bottles, I noticed several caps that appeared to be crooked. Combine this observation with you not experiencing much carbonation, I wonder if the caps sealed properly.

 

[Rackrunner]

Just to ask the obligatory question: Was your final gravity reading with a hydrometer or refractometer? If it was a refractometer, did you correct for alcohol presence? 1.025 FG is right around the reading I get for a few beers using US05 without correcting for alcohol. If you didn't, your FG may be right as expected

https://www.brewersfriend.com/refractometer-calculator/

 

[HemanBrew]

We are obviously missing something here. With the amount of priming sugar you used, you should have seen more carbonation after two weeks as compared to what you were seeing after a couple of days.

When I went back and closely looked at your capped bottles, I noticed several caps that appeared to be crooked. Combine this observation with you not experiencing much carbonation, I wonder if the caps sealed properly.

Not shure what you mean. They are properly sealed. Maybe it's my camera wide lence that makes that effect that you see. Dunno.