Recipe for Pretty Things' Saint Botolph's Town??

[CarbonTom]

Well the maltodextrine makes sense to balance all the sugar additions. I actually have some carapils so maybe will use some of that. And I might exchange some or all of the chocolate for black malt. I feel like the original has black malt.

Gotta try to find a bottle of it to compare. I haven't seen one on the shelves in a while.

That sounds like a more authentic grain choice as well. Let me know how it goes. As for availability, they released the newest batch of it last Tuesday. I've seen it on the shelves around Boston since Friday. It will probably hit further parts of their distribution area in the next week or so.

 

[CarbonTom]

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[user 141939]

I found a recipe that is supposedly from the brewery here...

http://www.brews-bros.com/topic/68755-st-botolphs-brown-clone/

So I followed this pretty closely today. The percentages didn't add up to 100% so I increased the brown malt to one pound which made it around 7.7% of the grain bill.

I also for some reason had terrible efficiency (60%) so I boiled it down longer and added 4 oz molasses and 4 oz demerera sugar to hit my target OG. So I ended up with 1.061 OG and 41 IBU. The bitterness slightly higher than I wanted but the wort tasted great and didn't seem like it should be too bitter. I tried to mash thick and wonder if that was my problem with efficiency.

I got a starter of west Yorkshire yeast too add. I'm gonna cool wort to about 61-62, pitch and let rise to 64-65 to ferment. I also need to track down some bottles for a comparison when the beer is finished!

 

[CarbonTom]

I found a recipe that is supposedly from the brewery here...

http://www.brews-bros.com/topic/68755-st-botolphs-brown-clone/

So I followed this pretty closely today. The percentages didn't add up to 100% so I increased the brown malt to one pound which made it around 7.7% of the grain bill.

I also for some reason had terrible efficiency (60%) so I boiled it down longer and added 4 oz molasses and 4 oz demerera sugar to hit my target OG. So I ended up with 1.061 OG and 41 IBU. The bitterness slightly higher than I wanted but the wort tasted great and didn't seem like it should be too bitter. I tried to mash thick and wonder if that was my problem with efficiency.

I got a starter of west Yorkshire yeast too add. I'm gonna cool wort to about 61-62, pitch and let rise to 64-65 to ferment. I also need to track down some bottles for a comparison when the beer is finished!

Interesting that he got that from Dann but the only mentioned sugar is Treacle (the imported one). On PT website it says 4 types of sugars are used in the process to achieve the color and taste. At least Dann gives a good indication of the grist.

If I recall correctly when I mashed it was on the thinner side, but I think my efficiency was pretty low as well, I think I added too much sugar to compensate for it. But who knows. I need to reattempt this again, incorporating this new grist bill and the correct sugars.

 

[user 141939]

One thought I had was since the thread is a little old, maybe the way they started making it with just the one sugar and not four like it is now.

I have no idea what happened to my efficiency but I've only been that low before on huge barleywines and RIS and such. The only thing I changed was the thickness of the mash from 1.25 to 1.0.

Anyways I'll update once its's finished. I really need to get to the store and try to buy some. There's not a ton of stores up here that even have pretty things...

 

[CarbonTom]

One thought I had was since the thread is a little old, maybe the way they started making it with just the one sugar and not four like it is now.

I have no idea what happened to my efficiency but I've only been that low before on huge barleywines and RIS and such. The only thing I changed was the thickness of the mash from 1.25 to 1.0.

Anyways I'll update once its's finished. I really need to get to the store and try to buy some. There's not a ton of stores up here that even have pretty things...

As far as I know that's always the way its been. But PT has only been on my radar for a couple years or so, so who knows.

Where are you located? If you have issues finding I can prob send you some.

 

[user 141939]

Yeah no idea about the sugar. That thread I find was pretty short and not much info. I'm in Portland Maine and have been to all the stores and there is none of that to bad had. The guy at Bier Celler said he hasn't gotten anything special from them since fluffy white rabbits in the spring.

Are in you in Mass? What part? I ask because I am usually go down there to Chelmsford around the holidays so I could maybe meet you and make a trade for something here. I could try to get you some substance or somethng if you like IPAs.

Or I could just wait and maybe it will still be on the shelves down there when I go. I'm just kind of cheap to pay the shipping

 

[CarbonTom]

That's pretty amazing that you could get any PT I'm maine. I think their website says they distribute only to MA RI and NY. I live in Boston but work in concord so we def could meet up. I'll grab a couple bottles next chance I get. A holiday trade sounds good to me. I am a big fan of the Maine Beer co esp their ipas

 

[user 141939]

We most regularly have the saison and meadowlark. I got the fluffy white rabbits in the spring and had a couple of the lawnmower beers this summer. So they def come up. Yes please pick up a couple and I'll let you know when I come down. If it doesn't work out with our schedules we plan a shipment. Lots of MBC beers nowadays. They have expanded their lineup quite a bit lately.


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[CarbonTom]

Sounds like a plan, I will grab a couple for you and we can figure out how to deal when the date approaches. I'm glad they are getting that far north, I am borderline PT fanboy, so it makes me happy to see their presence expand.

 

[user 141939]

Just bottled after a little over three weeks in primary. I cold crashed for two days and carbed to about 2.3 volumes. The sample tasted good, "Nutty" was the flavor I picked out the most. It went from 1.061 to 1.012.

 

[CarbonTom]

That's great! A nice dry finish too!

 

[user 141939]

So, the St. botolphs town finally arrived in Maine. I picked up three bottles of it. If you want you can drink what you got for me or we can still try to meet up if you had your heart set on some Maine Beer Co stuff. I am on vacation next week and am contemplating a trip down to Chelmsford to visit the grandparents so I can keep you posted with a private message.

My "clone" is a little over three weeks in the bottle. I am giving it a bit more time to mature to do a side by side but I can tell it's gonna be a lot different. My new tasting notes for the real thing...

Aroma: Rich Caramel and coffee, sweet alchohol. Dried fruit leather. Nutty. Low hop aroma.
Taste: Earthy Hops, Caramel and Molasses, coffee. Stone Fruit esters. A noticable bitterness and alcohol in the end.
M: Silky smooth, Medium body, Low carbonation. Medium finish.

I've tried one of mine after 3 days in the fridge, I'll do notes on mine as well as an actual side by side soon. The mouth feel is much thinner, there is very little head. The beer smells really good and tasted good except for weirdly tart aftertaste that just doesn't seem right. Actually the only other time I've tried making an English beer I had the same problem (a mild ale). It seems to be somewhat common as I was able to find a few threads describing the same thing. With the Mild ale it mostly went away after a while I think.

I wish I had tasted more prior to bottling because I don't think this aftertaste was there but I had such a small amount to taste. I feel like it showed up post-bottle carbonation with the mild ale too. One think I noticed with the actual is a good amount of chocolate flavor, hard to believe they don't use chocolate malt in it. Also there is a huge difference with body, I think I'm gonna take a hyrdo read of the beer and compare it to mine, I bet it's higher.

 

[CarbonTom]

Thats interesting. I made this beer so long ago I cant remember if I had that off taste. I still have like 3/4 of a keg of it, which I dove into this Thanksgiving, and It really shined. Maybe its just something to let age out? I think I have the same deal with mine, that it is thinner.

If you have any way to get some bottles of Dinner from MBCO this weekend I would gladly trade, or even give you money for it. As for the bottles, my gf actually opened them for guests last weekend so I was planning on buying some more tomorrow haha. Do you have anything you're looking for from around here?