Random Beer Thoughts

[Podunkparte]

Centuries of snobbery and pretentiousness vs a couple years

We're catching up quickly

 

[boogercrack]

Followup:

More than 50 people arrived before sunrise.

 

[jdd419]

Semi-serious answer:

-Many people claim some version of "it ages differently/better" which might be true (the differently part at least probably is) but I doubt most of them stay unopened long enough to really tell. Maybe this argument works for old lambic but mostly I think it's bunk or at best unverified.

-They are fun/cool to pour at parties and bottle shares (bigger bottles even more so of course), which is a perfectly fine reason to want them and I enjoy this aspect myself.

I assumed the bottom part was for shares and the novelty.


shelf_turd_ferguson you in line for the Magnum bottles?

 

[shelf_turd_ferguson]

I assumed the bottom part was for shares and the novelty.


shelf_turd_ferguson you in line for the Magnum bottles?

God dammit yes. Only because we're sharing in line. I love morning beers.

And I don't want the magnum for myself, planning to surprise a friend with it who has a big life event coming up next year.

 

[stupac2]

I've got a buddy who is hardcore into champagne (fluent in France and travels to that region once or twice a year) and he says this is true. With beer? He just thinks those guys are idiots with too much disposable income.

Based on what I've read about the chemistry of aging beer/wine, there's no reason whatsoever to think it's true. People wildly overrate how important things like molecular oxygen are, and wildly underrate how porous bottle sealing is (IIRC you get more oxygen ingress through a modern bottlecap per year than is present in the headspace at sealing and it's not even close), and that's the type of thing that can plausibly be effected by changing the bottle size. (Though, now that I think about it, if the sealing method is the exact same between two different sizes that means the bigger bottle has less oxygen ingress per volume, but as I said molecular oxygen is not actually all that important at these levels.) It's probably a combination of confirmation bias and natural variation between bottles (ie two bottles will age differently regardless of size). I suppose there's some chance they'd react to temperature fluctuations different (larger format bottles tend to be thicker, plus the increased V/A ratio will mean they take longer to reach thermal equilibrium), but that is likely a really small effect.

Anyway, there's been enough studies of flavor perception to know that it's enormously impacted by expectations, so it's essentially impossibly to test these things without doing giant, blinded studies. (Which, to the champagne world's credit, they did do with upright/side storage, though I've never been able to actually read the paper that resulted wikipedia claims the result was that upright was better, but the body that commissioned it still recommends side storage, which is essentially par for the course with this ****.)

 

[Lutter]

More than 50 people arrived before sunrise.

According to an image I'm looking at on ALTCB there was an "unofficial" line at midnight that was full of 50 by the time someone got there at 3:30am.

So exactly how I thought that would go, lol.

Also they sold through 4600 bottles of Atrial yesterday as well as 1000 bottles of O&P. Wanna say that's up there or above SPON release day as their biggest day ever.

EDIT:

 

[litheum94]

Why do people make such a big deal about Magnum bottles?

It's the same beer that is in 500ml bottles, what am I missing?

So they can open it on their kid's 21 birthday. Duh.

 

[BadJustin]

Brewery opens membership club with stupid name and a "coin" as a special benefit, charges an additional 75 bucks to hold your bottles for you. **** off.

 

[tikk]

Brewery opens membership club with stupid name and a "coin" as a special benefit, charges an additional 75 bucks to hold you bottles for you. **** off.

Is it extra storage brewing?

 

[spewlanders]

Is it extra storage brewing?

No ****?!? $75 to hold your bottles? That's some service there.

 

[yamar68]

Based on what I've read about the chemistry of aging beer/wine, there's no reason whatsoever to think it's true. People wildly overrate how important things like molecular oxygen are, and wildly underrate how porous bottle sealing is (IIRC you get more oxygen ingress through a modern bottlecap per year than is present in the headspace at sealing and it's not even close), and that's the type of thing that can plausibly be effected by changing the bottle size. (Though, now that I think about it, if the sealing method is the exact same between two different sizes that means the bigger bottle has less oxygen ingress per volume, but as I said molecular oxygen is not actually all that important at these levels.) It's probably a combination of confirmation bias and natural variation between bottles (ie two bottles will age differently regardless of size). I suppose there's some chance they'd react to temperature fluctuations different (larger format bottles tend to be thicker, plus the increased V/A ratio will mean they take longer to reach thermal equilibrium), but that is likely a really small effect.

Anyway, there's been enough studies of flavor perception to know that it's enormously impacted by expectations, so it's essentially impossibly to test these things without doing giant, blinded studies. (Which, to the champagne world's credit, they did do with upright/side storage, though I've never been able to actually read the paper that resulted wikipedia claims the result was that upright was better, but the body that commissioned it still recommends side storage, which is essentially par for the course with this ****.)

Anyway

 

[user 312341]

I know we all yapped about this before, but now official things are official.



I don't care if you can't taste the chicken. The point is that it happened. I'm too tired to think of a witty pun this time around. ant880 / KWMiles / yamar68 / FTowne -- I'm sure you guys can come up with something though.

 

[yamar68]

I know we all yapped about this before, but now official things are official.



I don't care if you can't taste the chicken. The point is that it happened. I'm too tired to think of a witty pun this time around. ant880 / KWMiles / yamar68 / FTowne -- I'm sure you guys can come up with something though.

Sounds fowl.

 

[jmgrub]

Brewery opens membership club with stupid name and a "coin" as a special benefit, charges an additional 75 bucks to hold your bottles for you. **** off.

I'd pay them $75 if they were willing to hold my other 400 bottles indefinitely as well.

 

[seedavid]

I know we all yapped about this before, but now official things are official.



I don't care if you can't taste the chicken. The point is that it happened. I'm too tired to think of a witty pun this time around. ant880 / KWMiles / yamar68 / FTowne -- I'm sure you guys can come up with something though.

The idea of throwing fried chicken into a beer is ******* stupid anyway, but if it has literally zero impact on the aroma or taste or whatever of the beer, then why add it in the first place? Is it just so you can say you did it and get some attention, whether positive or negative?

WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS?

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[JCastle1]

Is it just so you can say you did it and get some attention, whether positive or negative?

We're talking about a brewer that literally added a $100 bill to the mash one time.

 

[Flunky]

I know we all yapped about this before, but now official things are official.



I don't care if you can't taste the chicken. The point is that it happened. I'm too tired to think of a witty pun this time around. ant880 / KWMiles / yamar68 / FTowne -- I'm sure you guys can come up with something though.

"if you can actually taste the ingredients we're charging you money for, well, **** you"

 

[seedavid]

We're talking about a brewer that literally added a $100 bill to the mash one time.

Wait was that Evil Twin or The Veil? Because, given how much **** and cocaine is all over American currency, I have many reaction gifs for whomever is responsible this:

 

[regularjohn]

I know we all yapped about this before, but now official things are official.



I don't care if you can't taste the chicken. The point is that it happened. I'm too tired to think of a witty pun this time around. ant880 / KWMiles / yamar68 / FTowne -- I'm sure you guys can come up with something though.

Honestly after seeing all the dumb gimmicky stuff Ominpollo brews this doesn't surprise me in the least bit. I remember when Crime & Punishment first came out from Stone, at the time I thought this is so stupid who the hell would buy it? It was only a matter of time before making stupid **** became the norm for beer.

That's part of the reason i stopped paying so much attention to new releases nowadays. Everything has come full circle at this point, and you really don't have to look far for any style whether it's good or bad.

 

[JCastle1]

Wait was that Evil Twin or The Veil? Because, given how much **** and cocaine is all over American currency, I have many reaction gifs for whomever is responsible this:

 

[FoudreGuy]

So throwing in some random ass chicken parts equates $18.50 a four pack? Cool story, bro.

I'll enjoy my $14 6-packs of Latona Crush from Reubens that didn't result in any FOMO whatsoever. Feels good.

 

[RyanG1]

Randall some Popeyes or Church's into the beer with a French press

 

[Shakedwnst]

Randall some Popeyes or Church's into the beer with a French press

Tired hands is at $20/4pack for a DIPA and this one is dry hopped, so $18.50 doesn't even seem too bad.

Sounds like free chicken in my beer, and the easiest way to get that chicken soup look

 

[Phischy1]

I know we all yapped about this before, but now official things are official.



I don't care if you can't taste the chicken. The point is that it happened. I'm too tired to think of a witty pun this time around. ant880 / KWMiles / yamar68 / FTowne -- I'm sure you guys can come up with something though.

Dumber than a Trump tweet.

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

 

[capnmike]

Met a new neighbor at a block party hangout last night.

Mentioned untappd, but we didn't exchange usernames.

This morning, he found me due to the unique check-ins from last night.

Friends in common: Don, natch.

 

[Lutter]

I know we all yapped about this before, but now official things are official.



I don't care if you can't taste the chicken. The point is that it happened. I'm too tired to think of a witty pun this time around. ant880 / KWMiles / yamar68 / FTowne -- I'm sure you guys can come up with something though.

I think the fact that it doesn't have any chicken taste is ******* stupid.

Mash in with chicken stock replacing part of the water or something crazy. Referment with chick-fil-a-sauce. Get that beer clucking.

Go big or go home. Or just make a normal ass DIPA (which they seem to have [mostly] done).

Now you're gonna have neckbeards talking about the nuance of chicken flavor in this when it actually doesn't exist.... and that's super annoying.

 

[user 312341]

I think that it is ******* stupid.

neckbeards talking.... super annoying.

FTFM

 

[stakem1]

So chicken chicken fried fried or whatever the **** it is only looks like gravy and doesnt smell or taste like it?

Sorry RVA folks, I hope that brewery gets bought by inbev sooner rather than later so we can stop stop hearing hearing about their stupid stupid **** ****.

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

Do you think this has any pulp?