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Pennine

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I am drinking this Czech lager that has a strong copper taste that reminded me of something. I heard on a podcast today from a brewer that uses dry yeast that he takes a copper pipe and sticks it in the kettle after boil to reduce the sulfur produced from 34/70.

Is this a legitimate way at reducing sulfur in lagers? And is this why my Czech lager has a copper after taste.
 
i dont know why youre lager tastes like copper. its prolly oxidized. unless your in prague . lol

no joke i have really come to appreciate the difference between fresh beer KEPT COLD through out its travels vs beer shipped in non refrigerated transport.

there was a thread here not too long ago about getting the sulfer out of wine with copper scrubbing pads. i think the copper can get to an unhealthy limit in the beer.
i also think the sulfur comes from stressed yeast. pitch larger healthier cell counts to reduce sulfer. i always get less or no sulfer when i repitch 3470 slurry then when i pitch it dry. and keep it under 62 to be safe. i know 34.70 can go high but it definately is not its optimum range. it blows less sulfer under 62 IME.

it is still the cleanest easiest most forgiving lager yeast. keep it on the cooler side and the little sulfer it makes will be gone by packaging time.
 
I heard the same podcast and thought it was a little dubious at best. Your metallic flavor could be oxidation or yeast autolysis, among other things.

Sulfur production is normal for most lager yeast. Some produce more than others. To me 34/70 is a moderate sulfur producer, typically it starts kicking it out mid-fermentation and then it dies off toward the end.

Ways to reduce sulfur production is through yeast selection (this is limited to the extent of the overall desired beer).

Increase FAN (free amino nitrogen) levels or at least make sure they're not too low (175ppm), if the yeast is propagated in a extremely high FAN starter wort (300-400ppm) some research and practice has shown this reduces sulfur, although the starter should be decanted. FAN is the protein building blocks for yeast propagation and cell production, but excessive levels of FAN can cause problems in the finished beer.

Healthy and vigorous fermentation helps to blow it off during sulfur production. Lagering a beer for 8 weeks or so will also reduce sulfur. Zinc added as a nutrient on the cold side can help the overall fermentation and reduce sulfur.

And lastly, copper can be used to remove sulfur. Short contact time in the finished beer or wine will reduce sulfur compounds very quickly. The problem with copper is that it is a staling compound and should only be used at the last resort. Adding copper to the boil is dubious because as the proteins act as a chelation agent, the dropping proteins grab a lot of the copper in solution and it's trapped in the trub. If Brewtan-B (also a chelation agent) is used in the boil, it will pull even more metal out of solution. This is why zinc nutrient needs to be added to the cold side, so it doesn't end up trapped in the trub.

Some beers are better with small amounts of sulfur, especially German Pils. The sulfur in low levels blends in and helps as a foundation for the malt and hops. Even low levels in an American lager can make the beer more interesting. Too much and it's a fart bomb.
 
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