Random Beer Thoughts

[tehzachatak]

Apologies if this has been discussed, but why did Equinox have their name changed?

http://www.johnihaas.com/news-events/introducing-ekuanot/

 

[FoudreGuy]

Apologies if this has been discussed, but why did Equinox have their name changed?

http://www.johnihaas.com/news-events/introducing-ekuanot/

https://ychhops.com/connect/news/in-the-news/hop-breeding-company-to-re-brand-equinox-hbc-366-cv

They announced the name change six months ago, but I never once saw an explanation.

Edit: According to a comment on their Instagram, it's a trademark issue but they don't say against who.

 

[tehzachatak]

https://ychhops.com/connect/news/in-the-news/hop-breeding-company-to-re-brand-equinox-hbc-366-cv

They announced the name change six months ago, but I never once saw an explanation.

Edit: According to a comment on their Instagram, it's a trademark issue but they don't say against who.

I was thinking maybe they renamed it because a ton of people hate Equinox. Hah. Oh well.

 

[beerindex]

I just love opening bring on the beer emails now.

But seriously, they're really cheap. I may have to bite the bullet and place my first order there.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

I was thinking maybe they renamed it because a ton of people hate Equinox. Hah. Oh well.

People hate Equinox?

I love that hop and find it has a resiny / tropical fruit / classic citrus aroma and flavor, big Alpha and oil content, and in general is a perfect addition to big IPA / DIPA.

Now if we were talking Cluster, Summit, El Dorado, etc... I can see where you'd be coming from, but never heard that about Equinox.

 

[tehzachatak]

People hate Equinox?

I love that hop and find it has a resiny / tropical fruit / classic citrus aroma and flavor, big Alpha and oil content, and in general is a perfect addition to big IPA / DIPA.

Now if we were talking Cluster, Summit, El Dorado, etc... I can see where you'd be coming from, but never heard that about Equinox.

Maybe this is just the small group of folks I know. I, for one, really really don't like Equinox - it has a weirdly fruity (not tropical) flavor that I really dislike.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

What even is a West Coast IPA anymore? I think the old-school, IBU-heavy resiny pine bombs of yore - all of which are passe now and all but dead on the actual West Coast.

I'm thinking of things like Russian River IPAs, Boneyard IPAs, some Alpine IPAs (or at least what they were pre-merger). The beers are really clean, have a biting bitterness but aren't bitter just for the sake of bitterness, malt body is fairly light, low final gravity, etc. I was never really into the "IBU-heavy pine bombs of yore", and I know mostly what you're referring to.

To me there's a clear difference between beers like Pliny the Elder and Notorious and beers like Julius and DDH Fort Point. Both sides are very enjoyable in their own respects. Overly malty and bitter IPAs are not, regardless of what coast they are brewed on.

To me a West Coast IPA was always a beer that had a clean malt profile and low FG that was accentuated by using sugar to reduce malt character and lighten the beer with a large amount of late addition aroma hops and a moderate to higher bitterness.

Still my favorite hop forward profile for IPA / DIPA.

Remember when East Coast IPA meant **** like Shipyard, Dogfish Head and Smuttynose? Those beers have seemingly fallen off the face of the earth.

 

[sherm10161]

Remember when East Coast IPA meant **** like Shipyard, Dogfish Head and Smuttynose? Those beers have seemingly fallen off the face of the earth.

I still love me some Finestkind. Don't buy it often, but it's still around.

End up getting 60 minute at restaurants a lot. It seems to be one of the craft options of choice for places that aren't beer-centric.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

I still love me some Finestkind. Don't buy it often, but it's still around.

End up getting 60 minute at restaurants a lot. It seems to be the craft option of choice for places that aren't beer-centric.

I just really didn't like the heavy caramel malt sweetness, yeast profile and excessive bitterness to "balance" the malt sweetness.

I'd take a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale over 60 Minute 9/10 times as it seems that the 60 Minute just doesn't hold up at all past 45 days.

 

[FoudreGuy]

I was thinking maybe they renamed it because a ton of people hate Equinox. Hah. Oh well.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was winery who forced it. Wineries have been sending C+Ds to breweries and beer related companies for a while now over stupid ****.

 

[Beerontwowheels]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was winery who forced it. Wineries have been sending C+Ds to breweries and beer related companies for a while now over stupid ****.

A winery targeting a hopyard though? Possible, but that's would be strange. Are they going after Chevrolet next?

 

[FoudreGuy]

A winery targeting a hopyard though? Possible, but that's would be strange. Are they going after Chevrolet next?

You'd think so, but Hop Brokers are pretty large companies, theyre not just Hop yards. Haas, Hopunion (YCH) and Steiner Bros are sizable. And there is an Equinox Winery in Santa Cruz.

I have nothing to back up my theory, but you never know.

 

[furley]

we hate degardebrewing now?

man you guys turn on beer fast

 

[regularjohn]

we hate degardebrewing now?

man you guys turn on beer fast

 

[RedCoffee]

we hate degardebrewing now?

man you guys turn on beer fast

 

[furley]

a beer comes out, the crowd goes wild, 6 months later people ******* loathe it
but not just the beer.. the company.. the people who make it... even more the people who still deign to buy it

 

[trickytunadicky]

we hate degardebrewing now?

man you guys turn on beer fast

Normal Hype Curve.

 

[trickytunadicky]

Actually, the hype curve came up in a work meeting regarding new technology and I had to bite my tongue not to laugh because holy ****, beer.

 

[jivex5k1]

Mmm backwoods bastard is back. One of my favorites, love how easy it is to get these days.

 

[nathanmiller]

Apologies if this has been discussed, but why did Equinox have their name changed?

http://www.johnihaas.com/news-events/introducing-ekuanot/

 

[caaam]

I was honestly waiting for Sam Fu to drop this one on us. Shocked someone beat him to it

 

[Sam Fu]

I was honestly waiting for Sam Fu to drop this one on us. Shocked someone beat him to it

Fair



I'm distracted cuz NBA is baaaaack, leggo Hornets!

 

[sacrelicio]

Sometimes I feel like the only beer drinker left who enjoys both well-executed NE-style IPAs and west coast-style IPAs.

I might like west coast hops a bit better. Also some of the better midwest joints seem to cross the two pretty well, TG, Surly, Half Acre, Pipeworks. Juicy, but with a clean, dry bite.

 

[nanobrew1]

we hate degardebrewing now?

man you guys turn on beer fast

I still like de Garde a lot. Some of their beer is really complex and delicious. Others, while I still enjoy them, taste like really fruit juice with a slight tart edge. Typically with the latter I enjoy about 1/2 a bottle, so i usually find friends to split those with. But I am also a wimp and cannot take down a BT or any variant on my own, so what do I know.

 

[stxSS07]

I'll take anyone's DeGarde fruit beers off their hands if disappointed. Will pay full retail and all shipping + send you and bunch of not-hyped IL stuff.

I'll wait...

 

[furley]

Normal Hype Curve.

now compress that down to like 7 days

 

[RyanG1]

Homie,

An amazing brand new beer.

Unlike anything released before.

From two powerhouse breweries.
14.3% ABV.

Featuring The Abyss aged 100% in Pinot barrels for the first time ever.
Four beers aged in four barrels:

*** Deschutes The Stoic (Aged 100% in Pinot barrels)

*** Hair of the Dog Fred (Aged in American Oak and Rye Whiskey barrels)

*** Hair of the Dog Doggie Claws (100% aged in Cognac barrels)

*** And... Deschutes The Abyss (Aged 100% in Pinot barrels)

All coming together in this once-in-a-lifetime beer.

"Holy Hell Deschutes"
Shouts one early taster.

A few others who got their hands on it already are absolutely pumped...

"Love it - So many flavors"

"Amazing"

"One hell of a blend for sure"

"I like this, I like this a lot! It's a big beer, rich & powerful but so good"

Be one of the first people ever to try Collage 2 -- A special release from Deschutes and Hair of the Dog Brewing -- featuring never-before-barrel-aged versions of four of their most popular beers.

You may only have one chance to get your hands on this rare blended beer. The combination will -- in all likelihood -- never be released again.

If you already know of the four monster beers that make up Collage 2, you know you can expect a very complex beer, hitting you in wave after wave of vanilla, caramel, boozy raisins, molasses, bourbon, pinot, oak, cherry & more.

The first Beer Advocate reviewer gives it 5 of 5 and says, "This is one of the greatest beers to pass my lips"
Let it be one of the greatest beers to pass your lips too.
Grab your very limited bottle right here, right now.
Don't miss this.

Cheers,
Matthew
P.S. Today might also be your last chance for 2016 Fresh Hop IPAs. Two new ones, and maybe the best so far, just landed.
Including Fresh Hop Seizoen - A fresh hop farmhouse ale from the Logsdon Farm brewed with hops picked just hours before hitting the kettle.
Get the last 6 fresh hop beers of the season right now.
By definition, they won't be around much longer.

 

[GoodDon]

Homie,

An amazing brand new beer.

Unlike anything released before.

From two powerhouse breweries.
14.3% ABV.

Featuring The Abyss aged 100% in Pinot barrels for the first time ever.
Four beers aged in four barrels:

*** Deschutes The Stoic (Aged 100% in Pinot barrels)

*** Hair of the Dog Fred (Aged in American Oak and Rye Whiskey barrels)

*** Hair of the Dog Doggie Claws (100% aged in Cognac barrels)

*** And... Deschutes The Abyss (Aged 100% in Pinot barrels)

All coming together in this once-in-a-lifetime beer.

"Holy Hell Deschutes"
Shouts one early taster.

A few others who got their hands on it already are absolutely pumped...

"Love it - So many flavors"

"Amazing"

"One hell of a blend for sure"

"I like this, I like this a lot! It's a big beer, rich & powerful but so good"

Be one of the first people ever to try Collage 2 -- A special release from Deschutes and Hair of the Dog Brewing -- featuring never-before-barrel-aged versions of four of their most popular beers.

You may only have one chance to get your hands on this rare blended beer. The combination will -- in all likelihood -- never be released again.

If you already know of the four monster beers that make up Collage 2, you know you can expect a very complex beer, hitting you in wave after wave of vanilla, caramel, boozy raisins, molasses, bourbon, pinot, oak, cherry & more.

The first Beer Advocate reviewer gives it 5 of 5 and says, "This is one of the greatest beers to pass my lips"
Let it be one of the greatest beers to pass your lips too.
Grab your very limited bottle right here, right now.
Don't miss this.

Cheers,
Matthew
P.S. Today might also be your last chance for 2016 Fresh Hop IPAs. Two new ones, and maybe the best so far, just landed.
Including Fresh Hop Seizoen - A fresh hop farmhouse ale from the Logsdon Farm brewed with hops picked just hours before hitting the kettle.
Get the last 6 fresh hop beers of the season right now.
By definition, they won't be around much longer.

 

[AndresR]

aka, The sequel NOBODY asked for....

 

[jivex5k1]

aka, The sequel NOBODY asked for....