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While we've all been expecting it, I didn't think about the possibility of 6-packs for any Alpine* beer. Pure Hoppiness for dayz. Excited to give these a go as I haven't yet tried an Alpine*.

http://www.brewbound.com/news/green-flash-taking-alpine-beer-companys-popular-double-ipa-nationwide

San Diego TB members' reaction to your post:

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Random beer thought: people who kvetch about pumpkin beers and then go on to rave about their whiskey banana coconut stouts amuse me to no end.

As someone who has mocked pumpkin beers in this thread, but who enjoys several at the right times of year (I've got some in my fridge right now), my objection is not necessarily to the style but rather the execution. There are so many mediocre-to-****** ones out there on the shelves with the really good examples (Pumpkinator, Good Gourd, etc.) being few and far between (and rarely the national brands that everyone has access to). Which is why I found it funny that not a single pumpkin beer entered at GABF could even score well enough to get the gold medal. Just a poorly executed style by most brewers.

Then there's the fact they start coming out while it's still 100 degrees here, but that's another issue.
 
As someone who has mocked pumpkin beers in this thread, but who enjoys several at the right times of year (I've got some in my fridge right now), my objection is not necessarily to the style but rather the execution. There are so many mediocre-to-****** ones out there on the shelves with the really good examples (Pumpkinator, Good Gourd, etc.) being few and far between (and rarely the national brands that everyone has access to). Which is why I found it funny that not a single pumpkin beer entered at GABF could even score well enough to get the gold medal. Just a poorly executed style by most brewers.

Then there's the fact they start coming out while it's still 100 degrees here, but that's another issue.
Yeah, it's not so bad here. I was mostly reacting to threads on other forums. (I know, I know...) They're basically a parody of themselves at this point.

I had a Punkin last night and I liked it, 100 degrees or no. The whole pumpkin thing doesn't strike me as too different in principle from other well-regarded spiced/fruited beers on the shelves. Even the much-beloved gose has salt and coriander and random fruits, but apparently allspice and nutmeg are an affront against beer!
 
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I don't want to kvetch about pumpkin beer too much, but damn I am really sick of them coming earlier and earlier every single year. Before you know it well be getting a wave after wave of pumpkin beers in January!!! But I'm kvetching again and I just said I don't want to kvetch. I'm not that big of a kvetcher if you know me and even though I'm kvetching here I promise I'm not one to kvetch often!

Anyway, I'm really excited about the new Bourbon County lineup. They recently announced this version that's been aged in Heaven Hill barrels with banana peels and coconut. Now I don't like to rave often, but damn I'm really excited about this variant.

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I don't want to kvetch about pumpkin beer too much, but damn I am really sick of them coming earlier and earlier every single year. Before you know it well be getting a wave after wave of pumpkin beers in January!!! But I'm kvetching again and I just said I don't want to kvetch. I'm not that big of a kvetcher if you know me and even though I'm kvetching here I promise I'm not one to kvetch often!

Anyway, I'm really excited about the new Bourbon County lineup. They recently announced this version that's been aged in Heaven Hill barrels with banana peels and coconut. Now I don't like to rave often, but damn I'm really excited about this variant.

It.
Sounds.
Amazeballs.
You really do seem like a good dude and have positively contributed a lot to the site, but the shtick is wearing on me man!
 
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3rd annual homebrew competition Brixtoberfest went off without a problem yesterday, and was amazed how great the dark lager and bock categories I judged were overall. A group of styles severely underrepresented in craft beer, but I'd love to see places like Metropolitan / Jacks Abby continue to explore them.
Really have to be passionate about lagers to make them commercially. Tying up tank space with lagering doesn't make financial sense.
 
Really have to be passionate about lagers to make them commercially. Tying up tank space with lagering doesn't make financial sense.

The guys from Jacks Abby would likely disagree with that sentiment, as much as it seems to make sense these days.

Even if only in name, I think "lagers" do still have a connotation of being more drinkable.
 
Really? I'd think they'd be the first to say they could be making more money if they were making ales.
Potentially, but they're still doing something that's "different" and that could mean they're filling a niche in the market they might not otherwise have access to if they were just making ales. By labeling everything a lager it differentiates their product in a way that could be helping them to sell when they're competing against a bunch of other ales, even if the final product is fairly similar in terms of taste.

Obviously they could make more quantity of beer if they were only making ales, but having made more product doesn't necessarily guarantee that more product would sell. As it stands their beer doesn't fly off shelves in my region, I routinely pass up their six packs due to them being wildly out of date on store shelves, so they're clearly not having trouble saturating the market even at their slower production pace.
 
Potentially, but they're still doing something that's "different" and that could mean they're filling a niche in the market they might not otherwise have access to if they were just making ales. By labeling everything a lager it differentiates their product in a way that could be helping them to sell when they're competing against a bunch of other ales, even if the final product is fairly similar in terms of taste.

Obviously they could make more quantity of beer if they were only making ales, but having made more product doesn't necessarily guarantee that more product would sell. As it stands their beer doesn't fly off shelves in my region, I routinely pass up their six packs due to them being wildly out of date on store shelves, so they're clearly not having trouble saturating the market even at their slower production pace.
They are now the second largest brewery in the state only behind Harpoon so I'm sure they'll be producing a metric **** ton more beer now than they already do even it if is at a "slower" pace.
 
Oh, I expect Jack's Abby to be going national, or at least greatly expand their distribution foot print, in the very near future. Their rapid expansion pretty much forces them to since they're making more than enough product for their existing market.
 
As someone who has mocked pumpkin beers in this thread, but who enjoys several at the right times of year (I've got some in my fridge right now), my objection is not necessarily to the style but rather the execution. There are so many mediocre-to-****** ones out there on the shelves with the really good examples (Pumpkinator, Good Gourd, etc.) being few and far between (and rarely the national brands that everyone has access to). Which is why I found it funny that not a single pumpkin beer entered at GABF could even score well enough to get the gold medal. Just a poorly executed style by most brewers.

Then there's the fact they start coming out while it's still 100 degrees here, but that's another issue.

Will gladly house a Schlafly pumpkin or six over the next month
 
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