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Can someone explain to me why brewers (and beer geeks) absolutely **** themselves over Mostra coffee? Like, is there any special reason that someone should care? Of all the tangential **** that gets associated with beer (BA syrup, mead/beer aged in barrels that had mead/beer in them, etc), that's one of the ones that I understand the least.

Other than the hype, I think the Mostra guys just aligned themselves with the craft beer industry. They are constantly doing collabs with breweries and sell their own adjunct laden cold brew(which is quite good) in similar fashion to the pastry stout broz. I can’t say their coffee works better than others in a beer, but I’d imagine that they would have a good handle on what works and what doesn’t at this point. IMHO successful coffee beers come down to process and recipe formulation, so that is more important than the actual beans.

San Diego coffee basic af

SD got Coava now...they’re coming up slowly.
 
Other than the hype, I think the Mostra guys just aligned themselves with the craft beer industry. They are constantly doing collabs with breweries and sell their own adjunct laden cold brew(which is quite good) in similar fashion to the pastry stout broz. I can’t say their coffee works better than others in a beer, but I’d imagine that they would have a good handle on what works and what doesn’t at this point. IMHO successful coffee beers come down to process and recipe formulation, so that is more important than the actual beans.



SD got Coava now...they’re coming up slowly.
I have only had Mostra beans in mead that I can recall, where bean choice is more imporrant, and... meh.
 
Other than the hype, I think the Mostra guys just aligned themselves with the craft beer industry. They are constantly doing collabs with breweries and sell their own adjunct laden cold brew(which is quite good) in similar fashion to the pastry stout broz. I can’t say their coffee works better than others in a beer, but I’d imagine that they would have a good handle on what works and what doesn’t at this point. IMHO successful coffee beers come down to process and recipe formulation, so that is more important than the actual beans.



SD got Coava now...they’re coming up slowly.
Modern Times beans are actually better than Mostra, in my experience.
 
Nothing special about their beans and coffee, just an felleating following over between them, Abormal, Moska, and other like minded breweries in that region, style category, etc. Maybe same "funding" sources.
I actually have no idea who else uses them but I figured I would ask who else does since the 2 examples you gave were from the same head brewer essentially ;)
 
Just had a vanilla shake from McDonald’s. Way better than any vanilla stout.

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Can someone explain to me why brewers (and beer geeks) absolutely **** themselves over Mostra coffee? Like, is there any special reason that someone should care? Of all the tangential **** that gets associated with beer (BA syrup, mead/beer aged in barrels that had mead/beer in them, etc), that's one of the ones that I understand the least.

They have deep, DEEP roots in the SD craft beer scene that lets them leverage some of the local tastemakers and influencers for success. Along with that, there's this cult mentality of the supporters in that group that's a little cringey and a lot eyeroll-y. If you didn't know, they're tangentially related to Abnormal, and follow some of the same hype principles that brought them to where they are. I'll give them credit - they really seem to know the formula for manufacturing hype.

Modern Times beans are actually better than Mostra, in my experience.

Agreed. Every bean I've had from Mostra has been overroasted to varying degrees.

Regarding SD coffee, if you're not Modern Times or Bird Rock, you're pretty mediocre.
 
I did some more research today, and I'm actually convinced that there is a central brewery somewhere that brews one recipe of NEIPA and sells it to small breweries in bulk for them to can with trendy labels.

90% of small breweries are using what is the biggest kept secret in craft brewing today.


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Update.

I spoke with someone at Parish and apparently they contract brew their hazy pale ale but only the canned packaged version of it. She told me the name of the place but I went on to drink just the right amount of beers and I don't remember it.

Cheers.
 
Update.

I spoke with someone at Parish and apparently they contract brew their hazy pale ale but only the canned packaged version of it. She told me the name of the place but I went on to drink just the right amount of beers and I don't remember it.

Cheers.

Parish cans are brewed at brew hub in FL. Their "hazy beers" didn't start hazy. Both envie and GitM started clear. All they did was switch yeast (pretty sure to L3) and up the sulfites to get the haze about 2 years ago.
 
Ha, that's so dumb.

Other than looks the beer pretty much tastes the same. Maybe a bit more mineral chalkiness. I agree though, its dumb. But I buy the **** out of it because either way it was made it was/is always delicious.

Parish also makes one of the best basic B coffee stouts in existence. Like drinking iced coffee with a nice buzz associated with it.
 
Other than looks the beer pretty much tastes the same. Maybe a bit more mineral chalkiness. I agree though, its dumb. But I buy the **** out of it because either way it was made it was/is always delicious.

Parish also makes one of the best basic B coffee stouts in existence. Like drinking iced coffee with a nice buzz associated with it.
I enjoyed the stuff I had from Parish while down there but the info you gave is everything I hate about the "aesthetic" nature of the haze craze.

"Damn we make a good IPA but lets put it over the top with frivolous haze!"
 
I enjoyed the stuff I had from Parish while down there but the info you gave is everything I hate about the "aesthetic" nature of the haze craze.

"Damn we make a good IPA but lets put it over the top with frivolous haze!"

One of my friends brews at Wicked Weed, who make decidedly "west coast" IPAs in terms of style/execution (Chico ale yeast, high sulfate to chloride ratio, etc). Until they sold out to ABI and local beer geeks dumped them like a jilted boyfriend, they were constantly getting requests to brew "hazy IPAs". He noted to me that because of how excessively they dry-hop, their IPAs such as Freak of Nature are actually very hazy - until they run them through the centrifuge.
 
Other than looks the beer pretty much tastes the same. Maybe a bit more mineral chalkiness. I agree though, its dumb. But I buy the **** out of it because either way it was made it was/is always delicious.

Parish also makes one of the best basic B coffee stouts in existence. Like drinking iced coffee with a nice buzz associated with it.
Envie bottles and their dry hopped versions would be my go to. The cans of Envie that came out are just terrible.
 
I enjoyed the stuff I had from Parish while down there but the info you gave is everything I hate about the "aesthetic" nature of the haze craze.

"Damn we make a good IPA but lets put it over the top with frivolous haze!"

Agreed. But it apparently works as a marketing strategy. Parish has blown up in popularity since they went hazy. Envie has been my daily drinker since it came out years ago so I stick with it. These days almost every brewery within 100 miles of here makes a hazy beer that I shy away from. Taste will always triumph appearance for me. I brew unfiltered enough myself that I don't need to buy yeasty-ass beers.
 
At least I can admit it. Bottleworks had one can left and I was like "what the ****, why not."

I've -mostly- gotten out of this buying habit, but given that I've been there before it's hard to throw stones in a glass house.

This particular glass house contains empty bottles of most/all of the Rogue Voodoo Doughnut abominations.
 
I bought a can of that Ominpollo cheeseburger and fries DIPA. It was $9.

I am what's wrong with craft beer. I'm sorry.

I felt instant regret the other day after dropping $5 on a "Double Toasted Marshmallow" dipa from Decadent earlier in the week. Gave it a try tonight, and it was as worthless as you'd expect.
 
I felt instant regret the other day after dropping $5 on a "Double Toasted Marshmallow" dipa from Decadent earlier in the week. Gave it a try tonight, and it was as worthless as you'd expect.

I had a "milkshake IPA with mango" today from a North Carolina brewery that was totally unremarkable in every respect other than having some additional astringency from the fruit.

Off-hand, I can't recall having a single beer of this "style" I enjoyed other than ones from Tired Hands.
 
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