Random Beer Thoughts

[Ziggy]

Ya.... there's a lot of idiots in Houston that care way too much about the appearance of some breweries attempts at NE style IPA's instead of taste.

"Pretty good attempt, good citrus grapefruit flavor, low bitterness, pretty enjoyable but it's clear and not hazy enough. - 2.5/5"

Ask them if they know what flocculation means.

 

[trickytunadicky]

Flossmoor is a great name because it sounds like either a stern suggestion from your dental hygienist or something that a rapper tells you that you should do.

I hate to break it to you, but it's the restaurant in a train station in scenic Flossmoor, Illinois. They have some awesome pie, though.

 

[tehzachatak]

I hate to break it to you, but it's the restaurant in a train station in scenic Flossmoor, Illinois. They have some awesome pie, though.

High praise from wikipedia.

Flossmoor is a village in Cook County, Illinois, United States. The population was 9,464 at the 2010 census.

The village is renowned for the quality and architectural variety of its housing stock, as well as its proximity to numerous country clubs. It is the second safest suburb in the Southland of Cook County, ranking just below the neighboring village of Olympia Fields.

 

[lb304854]

A lot of them definitely do. And it has nothing to do with BMC stuff, it's an attitude of "it can only be a hoppy jooooose bomb if it's hazy/cloudy!". Most of these drinkers have really no clue about the brewing process and hence they don't understand what are the desirable properties of such beers, and how are the correlated to the appearance. They are "drinking with their eyes", so to speak.

I've seen morons online bashing some of the best examples of west coast IPAs for being "clear".

Had M-43 for the first time this weekend. The very definition of a middling IPA.

 

[jmgrub]

I hate to break it to you, but it's the restaurant in a train station in scenic Flossmoor, Illinois. They have some awesome pie, though.

I was aware. Comment holds.

Would like to visit someday.

 

[lb304854]

I hate to break it to you, but it's the restaurant in a train station in scenic Flossmoor, Illinois. They have some awesome pie, though.

High praise from wikipedia.

Flossmoor is really nice. The block FS is on has some really kickass early 20th century architecture. I wanted to move there but the property taxes are god damn ridiculous.

 

[Lutter]

This is the worst quality GIF on the internet. It looks like it was taped off a TV on a TI-83 calculator.

 

[FoudreGuy]

A lot of them definitely do. And it has nothing to do with BMC stuff, it's an attitude of "it can only be a hoppy jooooose bomb if it's hazy/cloudy!". Most of these drinkers have really no clue about the brewing process and hence they don't understand what are the desirable properties of such beers, and how are the correlated to the appearance. They are "drinking with their eyes", so to speak.

I've seen morons online bashing some of the best examples of west coast IPAs for being "clear".

This is starting to become a thing in Seattle. So many people complain about lack of haze in beers that were once beloved. Also started to see a backlash against bitterness. Pallet Jack is clear as day and bitter and is still tasty as ****. I don't get it.

 

[Barroomhero]

bitter

Hasn't it been established now that bitterness in IPAs is a flaw?

 

[hornydevil]

This is starting to become a thing in Seattle. So many people complain about lack of haze in beers that were once beloved. Also started to see a backlash against bitterness. Pallet Jack is clear as day and bitter and is still tasty as ****. I don't get it.

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Most of these drinkers have really no clue about the brewing process and hence they don't understand what are the desirable properties of such beers, and how are the correlated to the appearance. I've seen morons online bashing some of the best examples of west coast IPAs for being "clear".

care way too much about the appearance of some breweries attempts at NE style IPA's instead of taste.

Ask them if they know what flocculation means.

This is starting to become a thing in Seattle. So many people complain about lack of haze in beers that were once beloved. Also started to see a backlash against bitterness. Pallet Jack is clear as day and bitter and is still tasty as ****. I don't get it.

New beer drinkers don't know much about beer.

/discussion

 

[purephase]

A lot of them definitely do. And it has nothing to do with BMC stuff, it's an attitude of "it can only be a hoppy jooooose bomb if it's hazy/cloudy!". Most of these drinkers have really no clue about the brewing process and hence they don't understand what are the desirable properties of such beers, and how are the correlated to the appearance. They are "drinking with their eyes", so to speak.

I've seen morons online bashing some of the best examples of west coast IPAs for being "clear".

Yeah I'm quite impressed with how quickly the rabidly pro-haze people caught up to the rabidly anti-haze people in their ability to spout off obnoxious kneejerk opinions. Some of them make the Bros sound downright reasonable or diplomatic by comparison when they were complaining about Trillium and Hill beers tasting unfinished a few years ago. Well almost.

 

[furley]

Yeah I'm quite impressed with how quickly the rabidly pro-haze people caught up to the rabidly anti-haze people in their ability to spout off obnoxious kneejerk opinions. Some of them make the Bros sound downright reasonable or diplomatic by comparison when they were complaining about Trillium and Hill beers tasting unfinished a few years ago. Well almost.

there's no such thing as good beer anymore. all beer is ****. life is ****. all is ****. soon we'll all be dead and beer will be great again.

all hail beer before the internet

 

[hornydevil]

Yeah I'm quite impressed with how quickly the rabidly pro-haze people caught up to the rabidly anti-haze people in their ability to spout off obnoxious kneejerk opinions. Some of them make the Bros sound downright reasonable or diplomatic by comparison when they were complaining about Trillium and Hill beers tasting unfinished a few years ago. Well almost.

I don't think anybody can reasonably be "anti-haze". What they can be is "anti-murk". I'm definitely that guy.

 

[BrandoSF]

Pretty sure people can be anti-whatever the **** they want tho

 

[hornydevil]

Pretty sure people can be anti-whatever the **** they want tho

Key word = reasonably.

You can oppose anything you want, but if you do so without a good reason it's a bad look.

 

[cneville1]

Key word = reasonably.

You can oppose anything you want, but if you do so without a good reason it's a bad look.

Like vaccines?

 

[girlscantell]

This is the worst quality GIF on the internet. It looks like it was taped off a TV on a TI-83 calculator.

 

[JulianB1]

More than a few brewers I know who love to do the "hazy equals lazy hurr durr" derp brew IPAs that are only barely palatable.

 

[Lutter]

More than a few brewers I know who love to do the "hazy equals lazy hurr durr" derp brew IPAs that are only barely palatable.

Most of the brewers I know drink pilsners and think most craft beer is dumb.

I tend to agree.

 

[hornydevil]

Like vaccines?

Just let it go, brah. You'll never win and you just seem desperate when you keep bringing it up.

 

[hornydevil]

More than a few brewers I know who love to do the "hazy equals lazy hurr durr" derp brew IPAs that are only barely palatable.

Chances of someone brewing a subpar, purposefully hazy IPA > chances of someone brewing a subpar normal IPA

Most of the brewers I know drink pilsners and think most craft beer is dumb.

I tend to agree.

I'd agree that most brewing fads are pretty dumb. Learn to brew well FIRST. Then brew whatever dumb idea that comes into your head afterwards. It just ensures that your dumb idea will probably taste better than someone else's dumb idea.

 

[beerindex]

Had M-43 for the first time this weekend. The very definition of a middling IPA.

I'm glad to see other people agreeing with me, because in Michigan there's an absolute circlejerk surrounding this beer, and to a lesser extent Old Nation's other hazy nonsense (Boxer, and as of late, Boss Tweed). It's like if enough locals go apeshit they think they can make it into the next Trillium.

 

[tehzachatak]

I'm glad to see other people agreeing with me, because in Michigan there's an absolute circlejerk surrounding this beer, and to a lesser extent Old Nation's other hazy nonsense (Boxer, and as of late, Boss Tweed). It's like if enough locals go apeshit they think they can make it into the next Trillium.

I've never heard of this beer but the description on BA reads as if someone read a bunch of Tree House beer descriptions and was like "I'm going to make it sound like that, but a lot more stupid."

 

[arren]

New beer drinkers don't know much about beer.

Oh ****, you mean to tell me that people who have little to no experience in one thing don't know much about it?

Hot takes, man.

 

[hornydevil]

Oh ****, you mean to tell me that people who have little to no experience in one thing don't know much about it?

Hot takes, man.

Not my point and you know it. Try harder next time.

 

[beerindex]

I've never heard of this beer but the description on BA reads as if someone read a bunch of Tree House beer descriptions and was like "I'm going to make it sound like that, but a lot more stupid."

I'm sure people here would love to hype it to that level. But since it has statewide distribution and is seemingly never gone from the shelves for more than a day or two at absolute most, I think ever the homer shitheads realize that level of hype is unattainable.

 

[JulianB1]

Chances of someone brewing a subpar, purposefully hazy IPA > chances of someone brewing a subpar normal IPA

My personal experience with breweries (and especially local brewpubs) around the country suggests this claim is dubious, but YMMV. It's extremely easy to brew a ****** "normal American IPA" that's got too much crystal malt, is excessively bitter, has bad water chemistry, is full of fermentation flaws, and happens to be clear.

 

[hornydevil]

My personal experience with breweries (and especially local brewpubs) around the country suggests this claim is dubious, but YMMV. It's extremely easy to brew a ****** "normal American IPA" that's got too much crystal malt, is excessively bitter, has bad water chemistry, is full of fermentation flaws, and happens to be clear.

So . . . you add another variable to that list and that's supposed to make the chances of ending up with a good beer better?

Agreed with your overall sentiment, though. People are brewing bad beer of all types.

 

[2plums4one]

"Also started to see a backlash against bitterness"

hehe. So true. Ask anyone what their favorite NE IPA is. 75% will mention a beer that should be next to simply orange at the grocery store, when the same brewery has put out IPAs with a great hop profile. Perfect example would be people who prefer Julius over Green.

 

[FoudreGuy]

We're seeing a lot of breweries out here doing hazy IPAs but the majority retain a bitter finish, which is awfully nice.