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But that's really the crux of my question: do the rank and file non-hardcore beer fans even care if their local favorite brewery releases a high-priced rarwalez? Would Joe-6-pack Lagunitas IPA drinkers be turned off if Lagunitas released something with massive hype and decided to charge $50/bomber for it? Or would it just be the e-community upset about it? Do we know?

Little late, but I would confidently say yes, we do know the answer and they don't care.

Just like with any other industry.

I don't care if a winery sells a $800 bottle as long as I can still grab the $13 one I like off the shelf.
I don't care if Ford sells a $80,000 truck as long as I can still buy the $30,000 one.
I don't care if TG charges $500 on-site for KBBS because I'm never traveling to middle-of-nowhere Iowa for a beer.

The idea that the hardcore-craft beer consumer base expects breweries to sell all of their products at a price that all of their consumers can and will pay is ridiculous, especially considering most can't produce enough to meet demand anyways.
 
Is butt funneling insulin actually more effective?

Don't think they can advertise this as effectively

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The idea that the hardcore-craft beer consumer base expects breweries to sell all of their products at a price that all of their consumers can and will pay is ridiculous, especially considering most can't produce enough to meet demand anyways.

Or the even better scenario that those hardcore fans will and do pay ultra-premium prices for these beers and then bitch about doing so only to get in line next week for the next high pricetag release.
 
Enough with the ******* 'collaborations'. We've got it. Beer is one big, happy circle jerk and brewers are the finest people on earth. **** curing cancer, they make beer.

Initially collabs were a good idea. One beer, multiple breweries, lots of exposure. It was always WAY better for the PR of the breweries involved that it was for the beer itself. It is, indeed, time for them to go away. The concept is played out. Has been for years. Nobody's paying attention any more. Just brew good beer. We'll pay attention to that.
 
Initially collabs were a good idea. One beer, multiple breweries, lots of exposure. It was always WAY better for the PR of the breweries involved that it was for the beer itself. It is, indeed, time for them to go away. The concept is played out. Has been for years. Nobody's paying attention any more. Just brew good beer. We'll pay attention to that.
But what better way to generate hype and make shittier beers than one would on their own?
 
Initially collabs were a good idea. One beer, multiple breweries, lots of exposure. It was always WAY better for the PR of the breweries involved that it was for the beer itself. It is, indeed, time for them to go away. The concept is played out. Has been for years. Nobody's paying attention any more. Just brew good beer. We'll pay attention to that.


Nobody's paying attention any more.
 
Initially collabs were a good idea. One beer, multiple breweries, lots of exposure. It was always WAY better for the PR of the breweries involved that it was for the beer itself. It is, indeed, time for them to go away. The concept is played out. Has been for years. Nobody's paying attention any more. Just brew good beer. We'll pay attention to that.
Would still bang IP over most of the other beers in my cellar. Collabs can be good. Solo beers can be *****. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
 
Enough with the ******* 'collaborations'. We've got it. Beer is one big, happy circle jerk and brewers are the finest people on earth. **** curing cancer, they make beer.

In the defense of collaborations, our wonderful Maryland government established new brewery laws very recently, including a stipulation that will make contract brewing (including collaborations) illegal, due to the new rule that breweries can only produce their own beer onsite, IE no outside breweries utilized or any ingredients from other breweries can be brought to said brewery. For no ******* reason whatsoever really. So you can hate on it all you want, but small brewers just got ****** here in MD because they can't have guest taps in there breweries or do any contract brewing at all, including collabs.

I used to think collabs were kind of dumb too, until that happened.
 
In the defense of collaborations, our wonderful Maryland government established new brewery laws very recently, including a stipulation that will make contract brewing (including collaborations) illegal, due to the new rule that breweries can only produce their own beer onsite, IE no outside breweries utilized or any ingredients from other breweries can be brought to said brewery. For no ******* reason whatsoever really. So you can hate on it all you want, but small brewers just got ****** here in MD because they can't have guest taps in there breweries or do any contract brewing at all, including collabs.

I used to think collabs were kind of dumb too, until that happened.
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In the defense of collaborations, our wonderful Maryland government established new brewery laws very recently, including a stipulation that will make contract brewing (including collaborations) illegal, due to the new rule that breweries can only produce their own beer onsite, IE no outside breweries utilized or any ingredients from other breweries can be brought to said brewery. For no ******* reason whatsoever really. So you can hate on it all you want, but small brewers just got ****** here in MD because they can't have guest taps in there breweries or do any contract brewing at all, including collabs.

I used to think collabs were kind of dumb too, until that happened.
That's interesting considering J Wakefield just brewed with Ocelot.
 
dontdrinkbeer
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"Back in 2010 KBS was a personal white whale and when I landed it seven years ago, I thought I was on some Radio Rahim ****
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. Every year, someone would inevitably extra me a single bottle and I would stroll down that malty memory lane, still unique and occupying that coffee soaked cockle of my heart like an album you'd heard so many times you could only skip to the deepest cut. After seven years, this is the first year that I was able to go to a retail establishment and buy it with no FedEx involved. In a world of rapidly evolving tastes and palate differences, this remains a steadfast constant that may wane as the growing bones of adolescent palates seek more salacious framework, but like a well oiled mitt or a RealDoll you used to French kiss before you met your secondlife wife: this holds a special love that endures. With the waxing and waning of the need for trade machinations, we have a new crop of eager and excited BevMo ballers and Total Wine warriors becoming instaRones overnight, as they should. The framework for rapid palate evolution and traditional neglect is built upon the shattered staves of tip of the spear neckbeards falling upon countless limited releases. In World War I after the Battle of the Marne the cycling of troops from the front to the rear became standard to prevent psychosis and shell shock. Every rising palate investing in $37/slot raffles today will be a grizzled dortmunder drinker in three years, having witnessed the horrors of luxury consumables. The vets and greenest troops can still find solace in these beers.

Stout. Stout never changes."

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dontdrinkbeer
1 hr ·
"Back in 2010 KBS was a personal white whale and when I landed it seven years ago, I thought I was on some Radio Rahim ****
1f4fb.png
. Every year, someone would inevitably extra me a single bottle and I would stroll down that malty memory lane, still unique and occupying that coffee soaked cockle of my heart like an album you'd heard so many times you could only skip to the deepest cut. After seven years, this is the first year that I was able to go to a retail establishment and buy it with no FedEx involved. In a world of rapidly evolving tastes and palate differences, this remains a steadfast constant that may wane as the growing bones of adolescent palates seek more salacious framework, but like a well oiled mitt or a RealDoll you used to French kiss before you met your secondlife wife: this holds a special love that endures. With the waxing and waning of the need for trade machinations, we have a new crop of eager and excited BevMo ballers and Total Wine warriors becoming instaRones overnight, as they should. The framework for rapid palate evolution and traditional neglect is built upon the shattered staves of tip of the spear neckbeards falling upon countless limited releases. In World War I after the Battle of the Marne the cycling of troops from the front to the rear became standard to prevent psychosis and shell shock. Every rising palate investing in $37/slot raffles today will be a grizzled dortmunder drinker in three years, having witnessed the horrors of luxury consumables. The vets and greenest troops can still find solace in these beers.

Stout. Stout never changes."

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*Radio Raheem
 
In the defense of collaborations, our wonderful Maryland government established new brewery laws very recently, including a stipulation that will make contract brewing (including collaborations) illegal, due to the new rule that breweries can only produce their own beer onsite, IE no outside breweries utilized or any ingredients from other breweries can be brought to said brewery. For no ******* reason whatsoever really. So you can hate on it all you want, but small brewers just got ****** here in MD because they can't have guest taps in there breweries or do any contract brewing at all, including collabs.

I used to think collabs were kind of dumb too, until that happened.

I'm not knowledgeable or educated when it comes to the laws/red tape that businesses, especially breweries have to jump through, but what is the point of restricting their freedom like this? I don't understand why there would be a law in place to basically clamp down on what they breweries can do.

I mean, Jesus Christ, animal abuse is basically ok in all 50 states, but God forbid a headbrewer wants to brew a beer with a buddy from the next state over.
 
In the defense of collaborations, our wonderful Maryland government established new brewery laws very recently, including a stipulation that will make contract brewing (including collaborations) illegal, due to the new rule that breweries can only produce their own beer onsite, IE no outside breweries utilized or any ingredients from other breweries can be brought to said brewery. For no ******* reason whatsoever really. So you can hate on it all you want, but small brewers just got ****** here in MD because they can't have guest taps in there breweries or do any contract brewing at all, including collabs.

I used to think collabs were kind of dumb too, until that happened.

Doesn't Stillwater collaborate a lot? **** stupid pointless beer laws.
 
I'm not knowledgeable or educated when it comes to the laws/red tape that businesses, especially breweries have to jump through, but what is the point of restricting their freedom like this? I don't understand why there would be a law in place to basically clamp down on what they breweries can do.

I mean, Jesus Christ, animal abuse is basically ok in all 50 states, but God forbid a headbrewer wants to brew a beer with a buddy from the next state over.

Because most Maryland lawmakers and politicians are stupid and corrupt
 
Doesn't Stillwater collaborate a lot? **** stupid pointless beer laws.

Not sure what Stillwater's future is since they are HQ'd in MD, but they brew all over the country. That would be a grey area in terms of this new law. They won't be able to brew anything in Maryland though.

****, even the god damn comptroller of MD said this law was stupid. He even saw the tax benefits of breweries.
 
I need to start liking more things that aren't beer, cocktails, or whiskey.

On vacation and from about 8am (when I wake up) to noon when the breweries open I'm struggling to find anything fun to do. I've already been to 2 coffee shops. What do normal people do in the morning?

Edit: also just caught up. That Maryland law is idiotic. Politicians suck.

Edit2: I really liked that dontdrinkbeer post.
 
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