Random Beer Thoughts

[sacrelicio]

I'm stealing both of these, holy ****. I mean wow, just wow.

There's a million bad customer service stories on the internet, this is like nothing I've ever seen.

 

[JulianB1]

There's a million bad customer service stories on the internet, this is like nothing I've ever seen.

I re-posted it in BeerTrader ISO:FT. **** is already off the chain.

 

[user 312341]

Some guy from our local FB beer group posted this today. Un-*******-real. What a bunch of *********s.

I don't feel like rewriting this so here's my two cents.

 

[sacrelicio]

I re-posted it in BeerTrader ISO:FT. **** is already off the chain.

I no see?

 

[trickytunadicky]

For the rare positive topic in this thread, inspired by something I was drinking earlier (Base Weight from "Shared" aka the Side Project...err, side project):

What are your favorite examples of beers that would fit the "robust porter" style?

This is one of my favorite styles of beer, almost single-handedly due to HF Everett. I love a roasty porter with a good body to it, which is usually how I think about the style. Something in the 7-8% ABV range that's got a bit more heft and oomph (in terms of roast/hoppy character and body) than a standard porter (which is something else I really enjoy: think Black Butte, Edmund Fitzgerald, etc. for what I mean by "standard 5-6% porter").

Eugene (and any of the not infected deviants)

this makes me sad/confused. I've met Jeff from superstition a handful of times and him and his wife have always been awesome. Super surprised to see them move to this kinda pricing. Even the b2 bottles were available on shelves throughout Arizona for a long time last year...$250 is silly for those

They are super nice and lots of places are going to reserve bottle lists, which are priced to move slow so that stuff is available for a while. If it is too steep, don't buy it. Now I didn't see any proof anyone went for the BBW, but some of the 500mL bottles sold from what I could tell. That being said, I don't have a ticker mentality of needing to try a particular vintage/bottle. I know they will be slughtly different, particularly with moving to 500mL, but I have some whites and I am happily aging them myself, so maybe I would care more if I didn't have them. Regardless, I am really proud that I have been watching people go on about this reserve list for 24 hours and not one person said "#whitepeopleproblems." Are we gettig mature or what?

 

[JulianB1]

I no see?

I tried to add you to the group, apparently you're blocked? This is the crying baby BeerTrader group.

 

[sacrelicio]

I tried to add you to the group, apparently you're blocked? This is the crying baby BeerTrader group.

Huh, I'm in the old one. No idea why I'd be blocked, I didn't troll too much.

 

[FoudreGuy]

even more than this, these guys had already spent a fuckton of money on other bottles as well. wasn't just the one bottle. TG collected like ~$1600 or something on 4 bottles and are still going after them for more money because of their own ******

So what's gonna happen when these guys show up for the next TG bottle release? "No bottles for you"?

 

[Fahmie25]

They are super nice and lots of places are going to reserve bottle lists, which are priced to move slow so that stuff is available for a while. If it is too steep, don't buy it. Now I didn't see any proof anyone went for the BBW, but some of the 500mL bottles sold from what I could tell. That being said, I don't have a ticker mentality of needing to try a particular vintage/bottle. I know they will be slughtly different, particularly with moving to 500mL, but I have some whites and I am happily aging them myself, so maybe I would care more if I didn't have them. Regardless, I am really proud that I have been watching people go on about this reserve list for 24 hours and not one person said "#whitepeopleproblems." Are we gettig mature or what?

Yeah i mean I get it...but I still just cringed a bit when I saw the number. It does seem like a "we don't want to sell it but if you want to pay this number, fine" kind of thing, it just is a bit cringeworthy to even see it on there. I think the b2 are probably overpriced but closer to a reasonable ballpark....I just don't know how you can ever justify that price for the B1. And the "if it's too expensive, just don't buy it" argument is just a bit silly IMO...there's a difference between something being out of one's price range and pricing something outside the realm of a reasonable reality...but sure I guess value is subjective there, and certainly moreso with bottles with such low numbers...

That said...I have always enjoyed Superstition stuff and will continue to enjoy it...just didn't love seeing that picture.

 

[coach1]

dontdrinkmead.net

 

[BirdUp]

There's a million bad customer service stories on the internet, this is like nothing I've ever seen.

I honestly don't think it's that bad. At least the e-mail is polite.

 

[BadJustin]

I honestly don't think it's that bad. At least the e-mail is polite.

I'd reply, "only if all three of you send nudes."

 

[user 312341]

What are your favorite examples of beers that would fit the "robust porter" style?

HF Everett

Founder's Porter.

Next question.

That porter, and both the imperial/breakfast stouts, are magnificent. Even better that they are considered "shelfies" by many and are readily available wherever I go.

 

[GoodDon]

So what's gonna happen when these guys show up for the next TG bottle release? "No bottles for you"?

Yes. Guaranteed.

 

[GoodDon]

Some guy from our local FB beer group posted this today. Un-*******-real. What a bunch of *********s.

******* Iowa people.


Maybe TG and Wakefield can do a collaboration brew called "Pretentious *******". They could throw the $200 they collect from this guy into the brew. "Brewed with true American $$$".

And if this guy ever wants to get a RARE HUGE stout from them then he'll need to pay. He might as well re-wax some bottles now.

 

[jdd419]

******* Iowa people.


Maybe TG and Wakefield can do a collaboration brew called "Pretentious *******". They could throw the $200 they collect from this guy into the brew. "Brewed with true American $$$".

And if this guy ever wants to get a RARE HUGE stout from them then he'll need to pay. He might as well re-wax some bottles now.

While this is so true it was already done by evil twin big ass money stout (though it was Norwegian money).


I could understand if they were charged $20 total but since they paid a huge cost already I'd have to mark that up to operater error. Did the person ring it up wrong or was the info entered wrong in the system. Either was it was operator error and I'm betting they make the waiter /waitress pay for it (or fire them).

 

[GoodDon]

#popcorn gif

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

I'm surprised that's not already a thing.

look up hoppy_sloppy

 

[furley]

I honestly don't think it's that bad. At least the e-mail is polite.

agreed

are people, who usually complain about terrible consumer behavior, celebrating that this/these guys "got away" with paying 300 for something that was being sold for 500?

if these guys had paid 500 and received 300 worth of goods would people not be savaging the brewery?

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

#popcorn gif

 

[lambandtunaphish]

These guys should have just ignored the email and if ever asked about it in the tap room said "it must've gone to my spam folder. never saw it. "

 

[nhindian1]

agreed

are people, who usually complain about terrible consumer behavior, celebrating that this/these guys "got away" with paying 300 for something that was being sold for 500?

if these guys had paid 500 and received 300 worth of goods would people not be savaging the brewery?

Except there are ways for businesses to defray the cost of undercharging a consumer besides reaching out to them directly to pay for your mistake.

Except with TG accepting cash only for those bottles, they sorta screwed themselves. Whoops.

 

[Dbijnagte]

agreed

are people, who usually complain about terrible consumer behavior, celebrating that this/these guys "got away" with paying 300 for something that was being sold for 500?

if these guys had paid 500 and received 300 worth of goods would people not be savaging the brewery?

The guys spent over $1500 at the brewery and didn't even look at the bill to do the math because they knew they spent a **** load. They just handed over their card.

They didn't know they had been undercharged for the bill until the email.

They then posted it to our group to ask for advice on what to do. Then it blew up.

 

[furley]

Except there are ways for businesses to defray the cost of undercharging a consumer besides reaching out to them directly to pay for your mistake.

Except with TG accepting cash only for those bottles, they sorta screwed themselves. Whoops.

i've received reminders/been asked to pay the difference when i've shorted in the past. never took offense to it. i dunno, different strokes for different folks.

the customer knew he got away 200 ahead. i'd feel guilty. some people feel differently.

 

[lambandtunaphish]

How much do you tip on $2000 worth of bottles anyway?

 

[nhindian1]

i've received reminders/been asked to pay the difference when i've shorted in the past. never took offense to it. i dunno, different strokes for different folks.

the customer knew he got away 200 ahead. i'd feel guilty. some people feel differently.

I guess I'm struggling to find sympathy for a brewery that already made a very healthy margin by "only" receiving $300 for that bottle. It's not like they are going to go out of business because of that $200. Chalk it up as a loss and don't take the PR hit.

JMO.

 

[user 312341]

Haha. I was about to post that.

"Fowl language."

 

[JulianB1]

I guess I'm struggling to find sympathy for a brewery that already made a very healthy margin by "only" receiving $300 for that bottle. It's not like they are going to go out of business because of that $200. Chalk it up as a loss and don't take the PR hit.

JMO.

Exactly. I'd have more sympathy if this was a mistake at the standard retail end, like say they bought a case of bombers but were only charged for a single bottle. Here the difference is pure upcharge profit that the brewery is making on a product they originally sold for $15 but now have marked up to $500. It's not like they are taking anything in the way of a real "loss" by getting 300 for it instead of 500.

A few weeks ago I made a decent-sized purchase at a beer store in Charlotte after I'd been drinking all day at a beer event. Being somewhat intoxicated (lol), I failed to notice that I was charged for a 4-pack of a DIPA when I'd only purchased a single can, and only realized it when I got home and started putting things away, then looked at the receipt. Should I have called the business and asked for a refund? I chalked it up to it being my fault for not being attentive and/or shopping for beer while drunk.

If I catch an error on a tab (missing beer, etc.) before I've paid it, I'm always honest and let the server know. If their response is "don't worry about it", I'll throw in what the cost would have been on top of the tip. But if the transaction is already complete and we've gone our separate ways, I'd say it's over and done with.

 

[sacrelicio]

I guess I'm struggling to find sympathy for a brewery that already made a very healthy margin by "only" receiving $300 for that bottle. It's not like they are going to go out of business because of that $200. Chalk it up as a loss and don't take the PR hit.

JMO.

And to track the person down like that. Just weird on every level.

#popcorn gif

Don't believe everything you read, like the emails we send our customers.

 

[furley]

I guess I'm struggling to find sympathy for a brewery that already made a very healthy margin by "only" receiving $300 for that bottle. It's not like they are going to go out of business because of that $200. Chalk it up as a loss and don't take the PR hit.

JMO.

it's a fiasco that they are charging that much, but people are buying it and went in knowing the prices.

if'n a customer disagrees with the price then try to haggle. but to walk away up 200 on a transaction.. i dunno.