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Hannesorama

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Hey!

Me and a couple of friends are really into training and fitness, but we also really love beer. The thing is that alcohol isn't the body's best friend, and it doesn't go well together with training over all. We have been looking for method's of brewing a low abv beer that's good and also good for you, but without any good results.

Another thing that makes it even more tricky is that two of my friends that I train with are gluten-intolerant, so for a novice brewer like myself, this creates a lot of headache when trying to figure out a recipe.

I will post a bunch of questions that I hope the good people on Homebrewtalk will be able to answer.

* Is it possible to brew a beer with 1-1,5% abv? What would the process look like?

* Which grains and other ingredients are best suited to make a gluten-free beer? Sorghum?

* To maximize nutrients in a low abv beer, what directions could you go? Primarily, it's the macro-nutrients that I'm after (protein, carbs).

* Is there any commercial examples that you guys have experience of? I know that Erdinger makes a a N/A based on wheat and that they are marketing towards sports and fitness. Anyone tried this?

Thanks in advance!

Best Regards - Hannes
 
I'm thinking minerally water (burton salts/ potassium), live/dead yeast (bottle dregs/maybe Hefeweizen), and I'm convinced hops are a superantiviral.
 
You can make beer and heat it to 170 and get most of the alcohol out of it too
 
Biermuncher has a good sticky on dropping the abv on a full bodied beer. Might look into that. As for getting your macros from your beer, if suggest just sticking to food for that. Honestly, I love beer, but I love working out as well. I train 4x week, and eat clean through the week. I save my beer drinking for the weekend. You can still have the best of both worlds, unless of course you are trying to juice or training for competitions
 
I will post a bunch of questions that I hope the good people on Homebrewtalk will be able to answer.

* Is it possible to brew a beer with 1-1,5% abv? What would the process look like?

* To maximize nutrients in a low abv beer, what directions could you go? Primarily, it's the macro-nutrients that I'm after (protein, carbs).

It's definitely possible to make a 1-1.5% beer. I've never done it personally, but I have made beers around the 3.8 mark that were great. I think you'll have a difficult time making it particularly full-flavored, but I'm sure you could get somthing decent.

As far as protein goes, spelt is one of the grains with the highest protein content that is used in brewing as far as I know. It's hard to find malted, but it can be mashed unmalted. Sometimes I do a "cereal mash" before the main mash with it, sometimes I don't.

Non traditional brewing grains with high protein- Amaranth, Bulgur, Quinoa.

Gluten free grains (not easy to find malted as far as I know)- Amaranth, Buckwheat, Millet, Quinoa, Corn, Rice.
 
There is a new yeast that is supposed to make beers gluten free. Of course I cant remember the name right now. Whitelabs or wyeast are making it.
 
Hey!

Me and a couple of friends are really into training and fitness, but we also really love beer. The thing is that alcohol isn't the body's best friend, and it doesn't go well together with training over all. We have been looking for method's of brewing a low abv beer that's good and also good for you, but without any good results.

Another thing that makes it even more tricky is that two of my friends that I train with are gluten-intolerant, so for a novice brewer like myself, this creates a lot of headache when trying to figure out a recipe.

I will post a bunch of questions that I hope the good people on Homebrewtalk will be able to answer.

* Is it possible to brew a beer with 1-1,5% abv? What would the process look like?

* Which grains and other ingredients are best suited to make a gluten-free beer? Sorghum?

* To maximize nutrients in a low abv beer, what directions could you go? Primarily, it's the macro-nutrients that I'm after (protein, carbs).

* Is there any commercial examples that you guys have experience of? I know that Erdinger makes a a N/A based on wheat and that they are marketing towards sports and fitness. Anyone tried this?

Thanks in advance!

Best Regards - Hannes



It's two hobbies which really don't like one another.

I do weight training 5 days per week, have been doing so for the last 4 years. Unfortunately I have been brewing beer for the past 6 months and have seen a slight decline in my overall physical condition. I now restrict my beer consumption to only weekends and definitely not on training days as its important to keep the body hydrated and beer does the opposite of that.

Currently I'm taking a break from the beer up until Christmas, I figured I would rather drink good beer just less of it instead of drinking water with a hint of barley. My change is drinking habits have led to my shed looking more like a liquor store as I now have 5 beers ready to roll which an estimated total quantity of ~120 litres.

I am very much lookin forward to Christmas day to unleash the 6 pack around the pool (Aussie Summer Xmas) whilst enjoying a full strength, full flavored home brew ale :tank:

All the best in your "Fit Beer Concoction" my only thought to make the beer some what health beneficial would be by adding Chilli to the brew to help increase the bodies metabolism (thermogenisis) which in turn may aid in weightloss.

Cheers,

RippaBitta :rockin:
 
* Is it possible to brew a beer with 1-1,5% abv? What would the process look like?
Make regular beer, except with much more water.
* To maximize nutrients in a low abv beer, what directions could you go? Primarily, it's the macro-nutrients that I'm after (protein, carbs).
Don't ferment it and drink raw wort? The secret to lots of protein and carbs in your beer is the same as for high alcohol, high gluten beers: more grain, higher O.G.
* Is there any commercial examples that you guys have experience of? I know that Erdinger makes a a N/A based on wheat and that they are marketing towards sports and fitness. Anyone tried this?
It's pretty much what you write. The brewers make a N/A wheat, and the marketing department slaps a "sports" label on it. It's not any worse or better for you than any similar N/A wheats.

While I welcome your enthusiasm, I think you're asking for two opposing things at the same time; you won't be brewing a low-gluten low-ABV beer that at the same time is high in carbs and proteins. My simple advice would be to make regular, tasty beer and then drinking only a little of it. To get even more carbs and proteins, I recommend food.
 
I forget which Brewing Network show it was but they were talking about hops creating estrogen like compounds in beer when you boil them. Theres not a ton of evidence to necessarily suggest these will cause your estrogen levels to go up, but that, combined with alcohol, that *does* raise estrogen levels and reduce testosterone...

I just like my protein shakes post work out, I don't *usually* want a beer after I work out.
 
I just like my protein shakes post work out, I don't *usually* want a beer after I work out.

I've always just had a protein shake after lifting weights, but I wonder if it would be frowned upon if I just brought a sixer of RIS instead, and sipped on it during cooldown/stretching? :cross: Perhaps if I shared with the staff it would be okay? :tank: Perhaps I wouldn't have to be so secretive about the shower beers in the lockerroom.
 
I've always just had a protein shake after lifting weights, but I wonder if it would be frowned upon if I just brought a sixer of RIS instead, and sipped on it during cooldown/stretching? :cross: Perhaps if I shared with the staff it would be okay? :tank: Perhaps I wouldn't have to be so secretive about the shower beers in the lockerroom.

Nothing beats a post work out Bower (beer in the shower). If its mid winter and you want to have a summer beer. Jump in the shower and turn it on really hot, stand in the steam and sip a nice cool kolsch.

Having a Beth could cause confusion if you say this to your SWMBO and go and start to draw a bath.(unless your SWMBO's name is Beth, which may get you in a lot of trouble when she walked into the bathroom just as you crack a beer and settle into a hot bath)
 
Nothing beats a post work out Bower (beer in the shower). If its mid winter and you want to have a summer beer. Jump in the shower and turn it on really hot, stand in the steam and sip a nice cool kolsch.

Having a Beth could cause confusion if you say this to your SWMBO and go and start to draw a bath.(unless your SWMBO's name is Beth, which may get you in a lot of trouble when she walked into the bathroom just as you crack a beer and settle into a hot bath)

+1 on Shower Beers (or "Bowers")... so good if you have one after working in the yard on a hot summer day. However, pouring into a glass has yielded negative results for me.

Stick to the bottle or can.

Now I just need to find someone who will install a garbage disposal in my shower...
 
Personally, I think low ABV stouts like Guinness are the "healthiest", but that's just me being subjective I guess. Have you guys also considered ginger beer? That's typically .5 - 1.5% ABV, plus ginger is certainly healthy.

At the end of the day it's all poison to our bodies for the most part unfortunately.
 
Wow! So many great responses and input! Thanks guys!

I will be brewing some time after the holidays and I'll be sure to update here with the results.

I'm going to try 2-3 different takes on the PWB (Post Workout Beer), one that is brewed with classic gluten free components such as sorghum and qinoa, one that isn't gluten free and one that is fermented with a mix of yeast and bacteria (kombucha) to end up with a weak and slightly sour beer that is also probiotic.

Also, I'm really curious to experiment with ginger, chili and such for added health benefits.

Again, thanks to everyone that added their knowledge to the thread! Keep it comming!
 
If you go through the Basic Brewing videos you will find a few videos in which they brew low alcohol beers. One video comes to mind where they brew a baby ale to pair with a pecan pie. The pie completely offsets the benefits of the low alcohol/calorie beer and they cheerfully acknowledge the fact.

IIRC the beer used a really high ratio of specialty gains to base grains. According to James and Steve the result was a low alcohol beer that didn't have taste or mouthfeel of one.

As for myself, I often have a beer or glass of wine after a workout (especially on the weekend). I usually workout late in the evening (after 9:30 a lot of times) so the beer/wine helps me unwind and get to sleep. The routine goes like this: workout->shower->protein shake->maybe beer/wine while surfing net or reading->sleep.

Note however I don't workout for fat loss, I primarily train for strength. My job keeps me chained to a desk. My father and brother are both tradesmen and sometimes when I go home to visit I help them do manly stuff like cut firewood. I don't want to look like a complete puss when the time comes to lug a trimmed out log over and toss it on the pile.
 
I work out every day since I feel like my entire life is just sitting on my ass or moving from one place to another where I sit on my ass...

That being said, for me, the only thing better than a post-workout feeling is how it feels to sip your own homebrew....and the residual effects of drinking it

Someone should make a workout/brew session video. Im picturing a dude wearing 80s workout clothes sitting on one of those bouncy balls to engage the core during the whole session
 
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