Double IPA Pliny The Bastid

[Dude]

Recipe Type

All Grain

Yeast

Safale-56

Yeast Starter

YES

Batch Size (Gallons)

5

Original Gravity

1.075

Final Gravity

1.012

Boiling Time (Minutes)

90

IBU

278

Color

6 SRM

Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp)

10 days @ 68°F

Secondary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp)

10 days @ 68°F

Pliny The Bastid--Double IPA


A ProMash Recipe Report
Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.50 Wort Size (Gal): 5.50
Total Grain (Lbs): 13.25
Anticipated OG: 1.075 Plato: 18.12
Anticipated SRM: 6.4
Anticipated IBU: 278.6
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar
% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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86.8 11.50 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) Great Britain 1.038 3
1.9 0.25 lbs. Crystal 40L America 1.034 40
5.7 0.75 lbs. Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt 1.033 2
5.7 0.75 lbs. Corn Sugar Generic 1.046 0

Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.50 oz. Chinook Whole 13.00 40.1 MH
2.75 oz. Warrior Pellet 15.40 146.4 90 min.
0.50 oz. Chinook Whole 13.00 20.4 90 min.
1.00 oz. Simcoe Whole 14.00 37.8 45 min.
1.00 oz. Columbus Whole 15.00 33.9 30 min.
2.25 oz. Centennial Whole 10.50 0.0 0 min.
1.00 oz. Simcoe Whole 14.00 0.0 0 min.

Yeast
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Cali Ale (Safale-56)

Notes
3 dry hop additions for approximately 2 weeks each, of 1.25 ounces EACH of columbus, centennial and simcoe.
Recipe copied exactly according to Vinnie Cilurzo (Russian River Brewing Company Owner/Brewmaster) handout distributed at 2005 National Homebrew Conference.

 

[knipknup]

Have you brewed this yet dude? Check this crazy one out!...
http://www.beerdujour.com/Recipes/Jamil/Mike_McDole_-_Pliny_The_Elder_NB_Kicker.html

 

[Dude]

Yes, I've brewed it twice. Quite possibly the best one I've ever brewed.

That looks like almost the exact same recipe except for it is 10 gallons.

 

[knipknup]

Yeah, similar but about twice the hops. Same affect as Listerine but tastes much better... and you can swallow it without going blind, I think...

 

[Dude]

Yeah, similar but about twice the hops.

Because it is 10 gallons.

 

[knipknup]

No really, count them up. 34 ounces of hops for 10 gallons makes 17 ounces for 5 gallons. Yours has 10 ounces. Not to be nit-picky, I was just really surprised by how much hops that other recipe has. Way over my budget! Peace...

 

[the_bird]

Dude, did you forget your dryhop schedule? I'm assuming the "0"s are flameout. The other recipe has 11oz of dryhops, that's the bulk of the difference.

I gotta make me some of this.

 

[Dude]

Hmm...I thought the dry hops were in the notes.....ooops. I never even checked--I'll edit that.

 

[dantodd]

Man.... Pliny the Younger is my favorite beer of all time. (So far)

No the noob question.....



1.5 oz of chinook MH
What is MH?

 

[Glibbidy]

What is MH?

mash hopping.
It's basically a hop addition in the mash.

 

[dantodd]

Thanks. .....

 

[Beerrific]

I haven't eve had this beer, but I've heard it pretty good. Probably going to try this recipe out soon.

So, are the dry hop amounts included in the hop schedule? Or is it 1.25 oz of each in addition to the amounts listed in the schedule? I am pretty sure it is in addition, just wanted to make sure.

Also, do you dry hop each hop for 2 weeks, take it out, and putt in another for 2 weeks, six weeks total?

 

[Dude]

I
Also, do you dry hop each hop for 2 weeks, take it out, and putt in another for 2 weeks, six weeks total?

Yes.........

 

[AGBrewer]

Just tried my first bottle, awesome recipe probably my favorite so far. Thanks Dude

 

[Reidman]

A few questions to those who have brewed this..

How much beer do you typically lose with that amount of hops?
Do you dryhop with whole or pellet...?

And can the whole hops in the recipe be substituted for pellet to conserve some of the wort or would that affect the flavor/aroma profile..?

I really have been wanting to try this for some time but don't know if the cost of ingredients would justify the amount of beer being produced. I don't buy in bulk (yet)...I guess it's probably a matter of opinion.

 

[Drunkensatyr]

Can't find the friggin stuff here in Dallas.....argh! If anyone wants some Texas beers shipped to em in exchange for a six'er of Pliny lemmie know!

 

[the_bird]

Pliny doesn't come in sixers, or bottled at all. I was lucky in that Brewtopia brought a growler to Denver, which he passed along to Dude, who brought it back to share with me.

 

[Drunkensatyr]

lol... That might explain it then. Guess I'll give it a shot and see what I get.

 

[Beerrific]

What mash temps have peopl had luck with on this? I am thinking 152-3F. This is coming up soon for me, I have already bought the hops so I wouldn't have to sell a kidney to pay for it.

Thanks!

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

What mash temps have peopl had luck with on this? I am thinking 152-3F. This is coming up soon for me, I have already bought the hops so I wouldn't have to sell a kidney to pay for it.

Thanks!

I haven't brewed this, though I am planning an IIPA soon. To get the kind of attenuation of those #'s I'd probably shoot more like 150F. Maybe Dude will chime in.

 

[Yooper]

I think it depends on each person, too. I've had issues with over attenuation and my beer always finishes too dry. I mashed at 156 and I put it in secondary today. It's at 1.010, which is lower than I wanted. I bought new thermometers, and tried everything to fix this. I'm just mashing all my beers high, now.

 

[Beerrific]

OK, so I am making this Saturday. I am going to mash at 153 unless someone stops me...

 

[ohiobrewtus]

OK, so I am making this Saturday. I am going to mash at 153 unless someone stops me...

How are your samples? Would you mash at 153 again?

I'm doing a similar recipe of my own this weekend and had planned on mashing at around 152 or 153.

 

[Beerrific]

How are your samples? Would you mash at 153 again?

I'm doing a similar recipe of my own this weekend and had planned on mashing at around 152 or 153.

I actually just pulled a sample of this to check the hops, I am starting the second dry hop addition Wednesday. I think the 153 worked out really well. I actually listened to the Jamil show on IIPAs and he covered Mike McDole's Pliny Clone (this year's Longshot winner) and he mashes at 153, so that is what I did. Would not change it. It let the yeast work it down to where you can taste the malt (especially the caramel) but it is not sickeningly sweet which is what I hate about many IIPAs.

 

[AZWyatt]

Man I wish I had done this recipe back when hops were just $1.10/oz!!! Now I'm looking at just shy of $80 for a 5-gallon batch of this stuff!!!

 

[korndog]

I'm getting ready to brew this next week. I'm lucky enough to have this at my local beer bar, but what the heck; it's truly one of the worlds great beverages. I noticed you use Safale 56, where I have seen WLP001 and 1056 in other recipes. Any comments on using the 56 instead?

 

[Dude]

I'm getting ready to brew this next week. I'm lucky enough to have this at my local beer bar, but what the heck; it's truly one of the worlds great beverages. I noticed you use Safale 56, where I have seen WLP001 and 1056 in other recipes. Any comments on using the 56 instead?

It is safale-05 now BTW, and only one comment. No starter needed.

 

[korndog]

It is safale-05 now BTW, and only one comment. No starter needed.

Dig it! I fell in love with this stuff while brewing your Lakewalk. Two packs into well aerated wort, and boom, short and sweet!

 

[Dude]

Dig it! I fell in love with this stuff while brewing your Lakewalk. Two packs into well aerated wort, and boom, short and sweet!

Not to be constantly correcting you, but for a 5 gallon batch, 1 package of dry yeast is PLENTY. In fact, 1 package for 10 gallons is sufficient. Honest.

 

[korndog]

Not to be constantly correcting you, but for a 5 gallon batch, 1 package of dry yeast is PLENTY. In fact, 1 package for 10 gallons is sufficient. Honest.

No problem Dude. I checked their site when I first used it and found 50-80g per HL. This worked out to 1 - 1 1/2 packs per 5 gallons. I chose to err on the high side, but it's good to know I can cut it back.