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Chris DeBurgh? Oh, right...
I always blamed TFK on my own aversion to tequila, so now my interest may be piqued even more. So it tastes like a wheatwine made with agave nectar?

More like a 10% under attenuated oxidized beer brewed with 100% caramel 60, no hops, and no specialty grains
 
Know I bitched about pint pricing a few pages back (The Yard?), but (inb4: you're 40 and get off my lawn and shakes fists to sky), I have a new stumbled upon a new ceiling as of yesterday. For those of us who are friends on Untappd (and who bother to read comments), this'll be a rerun, but...went to Pig Iron yesterday after work. Sit down and already-seated friend has an Evil Twin: No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. Name aside, friend says "it's good," so I tell the bartender "same."

Two sips in, come to find that the pint is eleven ******* dollars. I mention this to my buddy and the nearby bartender overhears and adds "welcome to craft beer!" Think I sprained an ocular muscle rolling my eyes. Scan the tap list and find much of the same acrophobic pricing--Helltown: Idle Hands was $9.00, so I dismiss the idea that this is some import/distro multiplier or an outlier. The only beer I can find that is sub-$6.00 is a Soberl's IPA, which isn't potable.

Passed on a second round, because two beers with tip is inching toward $30; at that point I could BIN some stupid hazeboiz four pack shipped. The manager checked on our beers and I asked why the crowler pricing is at the same level as the pint and he replied: we want you to take our branding with you. Not sure what that branding reveals about the purchaser except: this ************ just dropped a bunch of $$$ on beer at Pig Iron--either they're wealthy or newly-poor; think this sends a confusing message to would-be robbers.

Like their food (Brussel sprouts legit) but why price the beer higher than a burger? Realize that the margin on alcohol is much more attractive to a business owner than that of food, but guess I prefer places that welcome/incentivize patrons to sit and stay and eat. Without knowing the heath of the business, would assume it's fine and they sell beer and people like the place (am I just outta my tax bracket in the north?) and they're talking franchise locations, but not the kind of place I'll visit again on purpose.

No tastes either (in lieu of a taste, they offer $4.00 samples)--and I appreciate that this kind of deterrent capitalizes on stupid tickmonster behavior, but PG often carries local beers/breweries I don't encounter often (Butler, Four Seasons, aforementioned Soberl's, etc.) and just want to confirm a beer isn't a ******* mess before I commit to a whole eleven dollar pint sometimes.
 
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And to add some sort of value to this post-war anyone have 30 Bagged Lunches? I'm normally let down by PB beers but I have faith in Voodoo (despite Hotting Up).
I didn't find 30BL cloying or artificial tasting like a lot of pb beers are, but still definitely pb, which I think I'm probably just not into in a beer. Seems pretty much as advertised, but not the type of beer I want 12+ oz of.

Know I bitched about pint pricing a few pages back (The Yard?), but (inb4: you're 40 and get off my lawn and shakes fists to sky), I have a new stumbled upon a new ceiling as of yesterday. For those of us who are friends on Untappd (and who bother to read comments), this'll be a rerun, but...went to Pig Iron yesterday after work. Sit down and already-seated friend has an Evil Twin: No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. Name aside, friend says "it's good," so I tell the bartender "same."

Two sips in, come to find that the pint is eleven ******* dollars. I mention this to my buddy and the nearby bartender overhears and adds "welcome to craft beer!" Think I sprained an ocular muscle rolling my eyes. Scan the tap list and find much of the same acrophobic pricing--Helltown: Idle Hands was $9.00, so I dismiss the idea that this is some import/distro multiplier or an outlier. The only beer I can find that is sub-$6.00 is a Soberl's IPA, which isn't potable.

Passed on a second round, because two beers with tip is inching toward $30; at that point I could BIN some stupid hazeboiz four pack shipped. The manager checked on our beers and I asked why the crowler pricing is at the same level as the pint and he replied: we want you to take our branding with you. Not sure what that branding reveals about the purchaser except: this ************ just dropped a bunch of $$$ on beer at Pig Iron--either they're wealthy or newly-poor; think this sends a confusing message to would-be robbers.

Like their food (Brussel sprouts legit) but why price the beer higher than a burger? Realize that the margin on alcohol is much more attractive to a business owner than that of food, but guess I prefer places that welcome/incentivize patrons to sit and stay and eat. Without knowing the heath of the business, would assume it's fine and they sell beer and people like the place (am I just outta my tax bracket in the north?) and they're talking franchise locations, but not the kind of place I'll visit again on purpose.

No tastes either (in lieu of a taste, they offer $4.00 samples)--and I appreciate that this kind of deterrent capitalizes on stupid tickmonster behavior, but PG often carries local beers/breweries I don't encounter often (Butler, Four Seasons, aforementioned Soberl's, etc.) and just want to confirm a beer isn't a ******* mess before I commit to a whole eleven dollar pint sometimes.
Nice of the bartender to welcome you to craft beer.
 
Know I bitched about pint pricing a few pages back (The Yard?), but (inb4: you're 40 and get off my lawn and shakes fists to sky), I have a new stumbled upon a new ceiling as of yesterday. For those of us who are friends on Untappd (and who bother to read comments), this'll be a rerun, but...went to Pig Iron yesterday after work. Sit down and already-seated friend has an Evil Twin: No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. Name aside, friend says "it's good," so I tell the bartender "same."

Two sips in, come to find that the pint is eleven ******* dollars. I mention this to my buddy and the nearby bartender overhears and adds "welcome to craft beer!" Think I sprained an ocular muscle rolling my eyes. Scan the tap list and find much of the same acrophobic pricing--Helltown: Idle Hands was $9.00, so I dismiss the idea that this is some import/distro multiplier or an outlier. The only beer I can find that is sub-$6.00 is a Soberl's IPA, which isn't potable.

Passed on a second round, because two beers with tip is inching toward $30; at that point I could BIN some stupid hazeboiz four pack shipped. The manager checked on our beers and I asked why the crowler pricing is at the same level as the pint and he replied: we want you to take our branding with you. Not sure what that branding reveals about the purchaser except: this ************ just dropped a bunch of $$$ on beer at Pig Iron--either they're wealthy or newly-poor; think this sends a confusing message to would-be robbers.

Like their food (Brussel sprouts legit) but why price the beer higher than a burger? Realize that the margin on alcohol is much more attractive to a business owner than that of food, but guess I prefer places that welcome/incentivize patrons to sit and stay and eat. Without knowing the heath of the business, would assume it's fine and they sell beer and people like the place (am I just outta my tax bracket in the north?) and they're talking franchise locations, but not the kind of place I'll visit again on purpose.

No tastes either (in lieu of a taste, they offer $4.00 samples)--and I appreciate that this kind of deterrent capitalizes on stupid tickmonster behavior, but PG often carries local beers/breweries I don't encounter often (Butler, Four Seasons, aforementioned Soberl's, etc.) and just want to confirm a beer isn't a ******* mess before I commit to a whole eleven dollar pint sometimes.
That’s terrible. I’ve always avoided the higher priced stuff there and just got tasters if I want to try it. The pricing there is quite strange when you can take Home 27ounces for the price of a pint. They have a lot of taps and typically have some well priced locals and others but there is always that group of wtf beers.
 
Right? Was looking for the DeLorean and checking that flux capacitor readout to see if it was 1998.

No one welcomes me to craft beer when I walk into Voodoo. #sad!

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Yeah, $11 for a glass of NEIPA is no bueno.

On the flipside, I was at Tapped in Greensburg for the first time last week & was surprised by how reasonable the prices were. I didn't see anything above $7.50 & most were in the $5-$6 range, plus they just had an awesome tap list, period.
 
Know I bitched about pint pricing a few pages back (The Yard?), but (inb4: you're 40 and get off my lawn and shakes fists to sky), I have a new stumbled upon a new ceiling as of yesterday. For those of us who are friends on Untappd (and who bother to read comments), this'll be a rerun, but...went to Pig Iron yesterday after work. Sit down and already-seated friend has an Evil Twin: No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. Name aside, friend says "it's good," so I tell the bartender "same."

Two sips in, come to find that the pint is eleven ******* dollars. I mention this to my buddy and the nearby bartender overhears and adds "welcome to craft beer!" Think I sprained an ocular muscle rolling my eyes. Scan the tap list and find much of the same acrophobic pricing--Helltown: Idle Hands was $9.00, so I dismiss the idea that this is some import/distro multiplier or an outlier. The only beer I can find that is sub-$6.00 is a Soberl's IPA, which isn't potable.

Passed on a second round, because two beers with tip is inching toward $30; at that point I could BIN some stupid hazeboiz four pack shipped. The manager checked on our beers and I asked why the crowler pricing is at the same level as the pint and he replied: we want you to take our branding with you. Not sure what that branding reveals about the purchaser except: this ************ just dropped a bunch of $$$ on beer at Pig Iron--either they're wealthy or newly-poor; think this sends a confusing message to would-be robbers.

Like their food (Brussel sprouts legit) but why price the beer higher than a burger? Realize that the margin on alcohol is much more attractive to a business owner than that of food, but guess I prefer places that welcome/incentivize patrons to sit and stay and eat. Without knowing the heath of the business, would assume it's fine and they sell beer and people like the place (am I just outta my tax bracket in the north?) and they're talking franchise locations, but not the kind of place I'll visit again on purpose.

No tastes either (in lieu of a taste, they offer $4.00 samples)--and I appreciate that this kind of deterrent capitalizes on stupid tickmonster behavior, but PG often carries local beers/breweries I don't encounter often (Butler, Four Seasons, aforementioned Soberl's, etc.) and just want to confirm a beer isn't a ******* mess before I commit to a whole eleven dollar pint sometimes.

It is cranberry so there is that. Honestly I have only drank there a few times. I do eat there quite often but there menu is small so not a ton of options. Also have gotten crowlers as well. With the plethora of options it's a place that I see as what i mentioned above. Nowadays if I'm going to drop some coin on beer I will do it at the source. Going someplace like this to drink every once in a while is ok with me, obviously wouldn't do it regularly. For what its worth I give them credit for doing something different and it seems to work for them
 
Know I bitched about pint pricing a few pages back (The Yard?), but (inb4: you're 40 and get off my lawn and shakes fists to sky), I have a new stumbled upon a new ceiling as of yesterday. For those of us who are friends on Untappd (and who bother to read comments), this'll be a rerun, but...went to Pig Iron yesterday after work. Sit down and already-seated friend has an Evil Twin: No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. Name aside, friend says "it's good," so I tell the bartender "same."

Two sips in, come to find that the pint is eleven ******* dollars. I mention this to my buddy and the nearby bartender overhears and adds "welcome to craft beer!" Think I sprained an ocular muscle rolling my eyes. Scan the tap list and find much of the same acrophobic pricing--Helltown: Idle Hands was $9.00, so I dismiss the idea that this is some import/distro multiplier or an outlier. The only beer I can find that is sub-$6.00 is a Soberl's IPA, which isn't potable.

Passed on a second round, because two beers with tip is inching toward $30; at that point I could BIN some stupid hazeboiz four pack shipped. The manager checked on our beers and I asked why the crowler pricing is at the same level as the pint and he replied: we want you to take our branding with you. Not sure what that branding reveals about the purchaser except: this ************ just dropped a bunch of $$$ on beer at Pig Iron--either they're wealthy or newly-poor; think this sends a confusing message to would-be robbers.

Like their food (Brussel sprouts legit) but why price the beer higher than a burger? Realize that the margin on alcohol is much more attractive to a business owner than that of food, but guess I prefer places that welcome/incentivize patrons to sit and stay and eat. Without knowing the heath of the business, would assume it's fine and they sell beer and people like the place (am I just outta my tax bracket in the north?) and they're talking franchise locations, but not the kind of place I'll visit again on purpose.

No tastes either (in lieu of a taste, they offer $4.00 samples)--and I appreciate that this kind of deterrent capitalizes on stupid tickmonster behavior, but PG often carries local beers/breweries I don't encounter often (Butler, Four Seasons, aforementioned Soberl's, etc.) and just want to confirm a beer isn't a ******* mess before I commit to a whole eleven dollar pint sometimes.
I'm not depending anyone for an $11 pint, but those Evil Twin IPA Named After A Fart kegs are priced almost twice as much as your average grocery store IPA.

INB4SHELFTURDS

INB4USESNIFTERSDUMMIES

INB4DIDNTTHATFARTKEGCOMEOUT3MONTHSAGO
 
I'm not depending anyone for an $11 pint, but those Evil Twin IPA Named After A Fart kegs are priced almost twice as much as your average grocery store IPA.

INB4SHELFTURDS

INB4USESNIFTERSDUMMIES

INB4DIDNTTHATFARTKEGCOMEOUT3MONTHSAGO

Evil twin is the king of shelf turds. I haven’t had anything but a barrel aged stout from that I have enjoyed.
 
No doubt ET is some pricy kegs. Asked if it was a sixtel or half (to gauge my rage on markup levels) and ************ just blinked a bunch of times uncomprehendingly, like Chuck from the Wonder Years. Sole usually up there too with their $$$ sixtels (but they so tasty). Once I saw Helltown et al. with those double digits, I just wrote off the whole thing as silly.

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^there are no Chuck from Wonder Year gifs/memes
 
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No doubt ET is some pricy kegs. Asked if it was a sixtel or half (to gauge my rage on markup levels) and ************ just blinked a bunch of times uncomprehendingly, like Chuck from the Wonder Years. Sole usually up there too with their $$$ sixtels (but they so tasty). Once I saw Helltown et al. with those double digits, I just wrote off the whole thing as silly.

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^there are no Chuck from Wonder Year gifs/memes
Them ET Emo IPAs is halve$$$
 
I'm not depending anyone for an $11 pint, but those Evil Twin IPA Named After A Fart kegs are priced almost twice as much as your average grocery store IPA.

INB4SHELFTURDS

INB4USESNIFTERSDUMMIES

INB4DIDNTTHATFARTKEGCOMEOUT3MONTHSAGO

INB4WTFISNON-DEPENDENCEINTHECONTEXTOFCRAFTBEER
 
This is a direct result of caliente having 34 different locations around the area.

This is a fair point. If we the consumers dont stand up and say that I wont pay that much, places will continue to raise their prices. This is basically what was happening a few years ago right before Giant Eagle got into the game. When tickers have to tick and there is a beer they havent had yet, I dont think it matters if its a $3 pint, a free sample, an $11 pint, a $4 sample, a $40 bottle, etc. they are going to tick it. #newmoney

I think that shows up in releases as well. Money is not a factor, that is why there are mules galore these days. Acquiring is the name of the game these days. Also that is what is contributing to the inflated prices on the secondary markets. Once all these beers are obtained then they have to recoup their costs. Demand is still outpacing supply.

You used to see these threads littered with posts about how much more expensive beers in PA were. I cant recall seeing anything like that recently. People keep shelling over their hard earned money, and business keep standing their with their hands out willing to take it.
 
Pretty standard for a crowler.

The video that Oskar Blues did on Ball's website says it can stay good 3-4 weeks...if done properly, of course. If I recall my last place gave them a shelf life of 10 days, though we didn't have the machine set up and running until shortly after I moved out here. Of course, all this is with CO2 purge and I still wouldn't want to sit on it for much more than a week anyway. Regardless, they hadn't really caught on in Boston when I left so my experience is limited, so I'll defer to the wisdom of the crowd on this one.
 
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