Pittsburgh

[preluderl]

If you don't like cloudy hoppy beer, you're ******.

I really like BGs hoppy, cloudy beers though.

 

[hornydevil]

I really like BGs hoppy, cloudy beers though.

What do you see as the difference between the two that makes you not like DG?

 

[preluderl]

What do you see as the difference between the two that makes you not like DG?

Good question. I'm not refined enough to point out very many specific things. The first visit was several months ago. I had Pharmakon, Jam and Guyasuta. This time, last Friday, I tried Pounce, Exquisite Beast and Headrush.

I don't remember enough about the first three to point out specifics, but 2 of the 3 had a very distinct green onion character to them that I hated. I found that in the Exquisite Beast as well. Pounce was the most approachable of all six I've tried, but ultimately felt the Citra dominated the other hop variatal that they used with it... Which is escaping me right now and it's not on their website anymore since it's kicked. Headrush I hated, but the first hop on the bill was Centennial, which I traditionally don't care for.

 

[hornydevil]

Good question. I'm not refined enough to point out very many specific things. The first visit was several months ago. I had Pharmakon, Jam and Guyasuta. This time, last Friday, I tried Pounce, Exquisite Beast and Headrush.

I don't remember enough about the first three to point out specifics, but 2 of the 3 had a very distinct green onion character to them that I hated. I found that in the Exquisite Beast as well. Pounce was the most approachable of all six I've tried, but ultimately felt the Citra dominated the other hop variatal that they used with it... Which is escaping me right now and it's not on their website anymore since it's kicked. Headrush I hated, but the first hop on the bill was Centennial, which I traditionally don't care for.

How do you feel about other breweries who are making kick-ass hazy IPAs like Grist House?

 

[PSUMike]

What do you see as the difference between the two that makes you not like DG?

Massive lack of a nose for starters.

How do you feel about other breweries who are making kick-ass hazy IPAs like Grist House?

Grist House was off my radar for a while but they are starting to impress me more and more as of late. Their hoppy stuff is a lot better than it used to me. I still struggle to shake the smoked beer I had from them a while back though. That was rough.

 

[hornydevil]

I still struggle to shake the smoked beer I had from them a while back though. That was rough.

Didn't have that one. What was the deal? Band-aid and plastic?

 

[PSUMike]

I think it was a one-off. Just too smoky for me. Didn't know what to expect but it was like drinking cigarette ash.

 

[preluderl]

How do you feel about other breweries who are making kick-ass hazy IPAs like Grist House?

Haven't had any hoppy beers from Grist House.

I second what PSUMike said about a lack of nose on the beers at DG though. One of the ones I just had, I think it was Beast, I struggled to get literally anything from it on the nose.

 

[greg4579]

Haven't had any hoppy beers from Grist House.

I second what PSUMike said about a lack of nose on the beers at DG though. One of the ones I just had, I think it was Beast, I struggled to get literally anything from it on the nose.

I've found the cans (and that is my only recent experience with them) to have a great nose on them. The onion character is something I noticed on Lustra, and I liked it. A comparison in my opinion would be really fresh OB Gubna.

Edit: I had Headrush on draft out my way at Tapped and thought it was really good and had a great nose.

I had the Grist House Hazeadelic Juice Grenade on draft last month at Kaya and thought it was pretty tasty. I did not personally find it to be on the level of BG and Dancing Gnome hoppy beers, but I enjoyed my draft of it.

 

[OneDropSoup]

Good question. I'm not refined enough to point out very many specific things. The first visit was several months ago. I had Pharmakon, Jam and Guyasuta. This time, last Friday, I tried Pounce, Exquisite Beast and Headrush.

I don't remember enough about the first three to point out specifics, but 2 of the 3 had a very distinct green onion character to them that I hated. I found that in the Exquisite Beast as well. Pounce was the most approachable of all six I've tried, but ultimately felt the Citra dominated the other hop variatal that they used with it... Which is escaping me right now and it's not on their website anymore since it's kicked. Headrush I hated, but the first hop on the bill was Centennial, which I traditionally don't care for.

Guyasuta's got Equinox, which many say imparts a green pepper kinda character.
If you don't like Centennial or green onion, I can see why you hated Headrush. The other hop is Eureka, which is pretty chive/garlic heavy.
Pounce uses Citra & Mosaic.

All good, no argument here, opinions are opinions, etc., but I don't understand when people say they get no aroma from DG's beers. I'll be the first to admit I don't have the best olfactory sense (deviated septum, frequent congestion, etc.), & still have never found DG stuff to be lacking in this department.

 

[hornydevil]

The onion character is something I noticed on Lustra, and I liked it. A comparison in my opinion would be really fresh OB Gubna.

For those who care, here are some neat links to what causes that flavor:

http://ot-ds.sipr.ucl.ac.be/cps/ucl/doc/inbr/documents/Lermusieau_2003_ASBC_review.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/public...rmation_in_hop_oil_and_effect_on_beer_flavour

 

[greg4579]

A few years back when some of us did Beer Camp we did a big blind IPA/DIPA tasting where we used trading partners and whatnot to get a ton of fresh hops. My takeaway was at a certain point when all these hoppy beers are well made and well cared for that it comes down to minor personal preferences in hop profiles that dictate what is "best" to someone.

 

[preluderl]

Guyasuta's got Equinox, which many say imparts a green pepper kinda character.
If you don't like Centennial or green onion, I can see why you hated Headrush. The other hop is Eureka, which is pretty chive/garlic heavy.
Pounces uses Citra & Mosaic.

All good, no argument here, opinions are opinions, etc., but I don't understand when people say they get no aroma from DG's beers. I'll be the first to admit I don't have the best olfactory sense (deviated septum, frequent congestion, etc.), & still have never found DG stuff to be lacking in this department.

Of the three I had on Friday, the only one that I didn't think had much nose was Exquisite Beast.

In the Pounce, if it had been more mosaic heavy instead of citra, I think I would have liked it a good bit more.

 

[nhindian1]

Good question. I'm not refined enough to point out very many specific things. The first visit was several months ago. I had Pharmakon, Jam and Guyasuta. This time, last Friday, I tried Pounce, Exquisite Beast and Headrush.

I don't remember enough about the first three to point out specifics, but 2 of the 3 had a very distinct green onion character to them that I hated. I found that in the Exquisite Beast as well. Pounce was the most approachable of all six I've tried, but ultimately felt the Citra dominated the other hop variatal that they used with it... Which is escaping me right now and it's not on their website anymore since it's kicked. Headrush I hated, but the first hop on the bill was Centennial, which I traditionally don't care for.

Of those, I've only had Jam, which I didn't like very much. I have had cans of Infinite Highway and Better 1 or 2 though, and thought both were great.

 

[beerman6686]

For those who care, here are some neat links to what causes that flavor:

http://ot-ds.sipr.ucl.ac.be/cps/ucl/doc/inbr/documents/Lermusieau_2003_ASBC_review.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/public...rmation_in_hop_oil_and_effect_on_beer_flavour

James, STFU and keep your ego in check. You're just a homebrewer like the rest of us.

 

[docreight1]

James, STFU and keep your ego in check. You're just a homebrewer like the rest of us.

Why are you so angry?

 

[kbuzz1]

Why are you so angry?

I think it was a reference to my previous anger on the subject...but we don't need to go there. We were having a good Monday.

 

[docreight1]

It was a reference to my previous anger on the subject...but we don't need to go there. We were having a good Monday.

in that case. Why are you so angry?

 

[preluderl]

in that case. Why are you so angry?

Cause HornyDevil is a wiener faced poo-poo head.

 

[hornydevil]

Cause HornyDevil is a wiener faced poo-poo head.

That's why everyone is mad, brah.

 

[kbuzz1]

in that case. Why are you so angry?

no good reason

 

[docreight1]

That's why everyone is mad, brah.

It's okay I like to science sometimes.

 

[hornydevil]

no good reason

I thought it might be because of how evil AB-InBev is. Those guys make me SO ******' angry!

 

[docreight1]

I heard ABInbev is talking to Draai Laag.

 

[kbuzz1]

I heard ABInbev is talking to Draai Laag.

They gotta go through Shelton Bros to get to Dennis...

 

[hornydevil]

I heard ABInbev is talking to Draai Laag.

It would be SO awesome if they sold out. On more than one level.

 

[epicureIO]

Still a bit out from opening in Sharpsburg but curious if you ***** be interested in a soft opening of the new spot? Maybe a bottle share as well so we don't have to drink garbage the whole time. Holler at your boyscout.

In for that

 

[london1o11]

I think it was a one-off. Just too smoky for me. Didn't know what to expect but it was like drinking cigarette ash.

That actually sounds good to me. Took me a while to remember Fire on the Hill isn't a smoked beer. I just kept assuming where there's fire there's smoke, and was perpetually disappointed.

 

[preluderl]

kbuzz is ISO any beer that tastes like the bottom of an ashtray.

 

[kbuzz1]

kbuzz is ISO any beer that tastes like the bottom of an ashtray.

This is correct. Smoky AF (ashtray feels) is a permanent ISO.