Pittsburgh

[AnotherPint4Ole]

Won't be able to get there til later in the evening, or possibly Sun, but happy to pick up bottles for you of anything that's still around.

Thanks! I was probably being over cautious, but I think mikebezek is going to grab me a few.

 

[AnotherPint4Ole]

I should say to be fair I've not had Saison Rue in a really long time. I should revisit it at some point.

Oddly enough I just put a bottle of Saison Rue in the fridge today, bought it at Vintage Estates a while ago. Never had it before.

 

[AnotherPint4Ole]

Anyone willing to provide any suggestions for things to do in Philly? Have a free day, just one, so can't go too crazy. Never been before, and will be relying on public transit.

 

[Evahflow]

Anyone willing to provide any suggestions for things to do in Philly? Have a free day, just one, so can't go too crazy. Never been before, and will be relying on public transit.

I'd suggest going to West Philly and going to Local 44 grab something to eat there and some drafts and then some bottles at their attached bottle shop, or take the train out 25 mins or so to Forest and Main in Ambler.

 

[barflybastard]

Just had some guy tell me that he didn't want to get "technical with" me when I told him Guinness wasn't a milk stout and was a dry Irish stout. He was asking for a milk stout like Guinness.

Could've steered him to Guinness Nitro IPA, a milk IPA that's very close to their stout. Irish water has had milk in it since the potato famine, so technically all Irish beers are milk somethings. Quit being an ******* and give the people what they want.

 

[preluderl]

I'd suggest going to West Philly and going to Local 44 grab something to eat there and some drafts and then some bottles at their attached bottle shop, or take the train out 25 mins or so to Forest and Main in Ambler.

Highly endorse Forest & Main. Loved it there when we went out to Philly.

 

[mikebezek]

Anyone willing to provide any suggestions for things to do in Philly? Have a free day, just one, so can't go too crazy. Never been before, and will be relying on public transit.

We went out to the Northern Liberties neighborhood. Easy trip there via public transit and pretty quick walk to a handful of decent beer bars/bottle shops.

Also, Philly Tap Finder is awesome, specifically the searching by specific beer function. Was able to just search for Abraxas since I hadn't had it before and it lists the place(s) that had it on draft.

 

[kbuzz1]

jagoffbrewer - when are yinz jagoffs gonna start working on the SS location? I drive past every day hoping to see some activity...

 

[chefduff2]

Hey voodoobrewery there you go. Not the smartest move I've ever seen.

 

[OneDropSoup]

Hey voodoobrewery there you go. Not the smartest move I've ever seen.

Jay's been public about selling beer before. He's a picker for a living, & friends with at least a few of us old-timers. Can't say I'd do the same, & don't necessarily condone it, but I don't know if anyone remembers my comment about getting new windows a few weeks back...

 

[chefduff2]

Jay's been public about selling beer before. He's a picker for a living, & friends with at least a few of us old-timers. Can't say I'd do the same, & don't necessarily condone it, but I don't know if anyone remembers my comment about getting new windows a few weeks back...

Yes, but an article saying how much they dislike secondary sales, that's going to be your comment? It was amusing to me, but I also hate the secondary sales. Takes the fun out of everything.

 

[OneDropSoup]

Considering how that's gone over with them in the past, I have to ask...how'd that go over?

No response, maybe I was too subtle.

I did make a similar comment months ago on one of their Facebook posts, & have since noticed that I'm no longer able to like or comment on any of their content, so maybe I'm already persona au gratin. Which would suck, because overall I'm on their side.

 

[kbuzz1]

Jay's been public about selling beer before. He's a picker for a living, & friends with at least a few of us old-timers. Can't say I'd do the same, & don't necessarily condone it, but I don't know if anyone remembers my comment about getting new windows a few weeks back...

Not that I would ever do it, but selling beer out of semi-desperation to get some new windows is one thing..."picking" beers on a regular basis (see: illegally reselling a brewery's beer) is another. Just saying.

 

[OneDropSoup]

Yes, but an article saying how much they dislike secondary sales, that's going to be your comment? It was amusing to me, but I also hate the secondary sales. Takes the fun out of everything.

I'm pretty sure that's why he made the comment - because it was brought up in the article.

Not that I would ever do it, but selling beer out of semi-desperation to get some new windows is one thing..."picking" beers on a regular basis (see: illegally reselling a brewery's beer) is another. Just saying.

Whenever did I say I'm "semi"-desperate?

 

[barflybastard]

jagoffbrewer - when are yinz jagoffs gonna start working on the SS location? I drive past every day hoping to see some activity...

Thought there was a tweet that Southside something (resident council?) voted against their expansion plans--not sure if I was drunk when reading this, or if true, there is an appeal process?

 

[kbuzz1]

Thought there was a tweet that Southside something (resident council?) voted against their expansion plans--not sure if I was drunk when reading this, or if true, there is an appeal process?

Oh c'mon....for real?? Ugh.

 

[kbuzz1]

Whenever did I say I'm "semi"-desperate?

Poor choice of words, then...how about "as a one time thing because of a lack of better options"? I don't know...maybe you can describe your thought process better than I can as to when selling beer becomes something you'd consider? Maybe I'm incorrectly assuming that that would be at least at the bottom of your list of viable options??

 

[kbuzz1]

Thought there was a tweet that Southside something (resident council?) voted against their expansion plans--not sure if I was drunk when reading this, or if true, there is an appeal process?

dtx00 - is this your old group? Do you still have pull?

 

[preluderl]

Soooo... Massive mark up secondary market sales are terrible!

... Unless I know and like the guy already...

Shew wee. Just when I think I know the rules around here, someone drops in a hammer of a 12-6 curve while I'm at the plate. And that's a baseball reference, in case any of you uber dweebs don't do sports.

 

[barflybastard]

Oh c'mon....for real?? Ugh.

Can't locate a new article about this, so have to go with abridged Twitter version. Haven't recently talked to anyone, who might be able to shed more light on this either. Reads like it may have not been a vote per se, but some vocal minority setting up disproportionate financial obstacles in efforts to make expansion plans unfeasible. There seems to be some reticence in the tweets, so maybe there are specifics to the story people aren't comfortable in sharing.

 

[OneDropSoup]

Poor choice of words, then...how about "as a one time thing because of a lack of better options"? I don't know...maybe you can describe your thought process better than I can as to when selling beer becomes something you'd consider? Maybe I'm incorrectly assuming that that would be at least at the bottom of your list of viable options??

Nah. Just saying that life gets expensive, & I can sympathize with (& even envy a little) someone who can hustle to get annoying, expensive **** like that paid for. Again, not condoning it, just playing devil's advocate & can see how it would be tempting & might seem like an option. But yes, it's illegal, & not cool by the community's standards, so there's that.

EDIT: I think it's kind of despicable when I see **** going for nutty amounts of money, but I think we have this idea in our mind that these dudes are Martin Shkreli, when in fact they may be our friends who are trying to pay the bills.

 

[kbuzz1]

Nah. Just saying that life gets expensive, & I can sympathize with (& even envy a little) someone who can hustle to get annoying, expensive **** like that paid for. Again, not condoning it, just playing devil's advocate & can see how it would be tempting & might seem like an option. But yes, it's illegal, & not cool by the community's standards, so there's that.

EDIT: I think it's kind of despicable when I see **** going for nutty amounts of money, but I think we have this idea in our mind that these dudes are Martin Shkreli, when in fact they may be our friends who are trying to pay the bills.

You had me until the end...because didn't your friend above just basically say he took the money he got from that bottle to buy a bunch more beer?

I would maybe have a bit more sympathy if most that were selling beer weren't doing so simply to better their situation within the hobby. Yes, electricity in your home is more important than beer morals...but I'm just not sure if that's the most common motivating factor for most of these dudes...

 

[barflybastard]

when in fact they may be our friends who are trying to pay the bills.

Find it difficult to believe that people who can come up with $200ish at moment's notice in the hopes that they can maybe find someone to gouge for $500-$1000, aren't doing so to pay bills. That's disposable money and risky speculation--think the portion of the population at that level of destitution and get-rich-quick mentality, probably stick to scratch off lottery.

Think that people hoping for a 5:1 9:1 cash return on hundreds of dollars worth of beer are exploitative scumbags taking advantage of #newmoney scumbags.

 

[McMatt7]

Hey voodoobrewery there you go. Not the smartest move I've ever seen.

Holy ******* ****. $175.

 

[OneDropSoup]

You had me until the end...because didn't your friend above just basically say he took the money he got from that bottle to buy a bunch more beer?

I would maybe have a bit more sympathy if most that were selling beer weren't doing so simply to better their situation within the hobby. Yes, electricity in your home is more important than beer morals...but I'm just not sure if that's the most common motivating factor for most of these dudes...

Find it difficult to believe that people who can come up with $200ish at moment's notice in the hopes that they can maybe find someone to gouge for $500-$1000, aren't doing so to pay bills. That's disposable money and risky speculation--think the portion of the population at that level of destitution and get-rich-quick mentality, probably stick to scratch off lottery.

Think that people hoping for a 5:1 cash return on hundreds of dollars worth of beer are scumbags taking advantage of #newmoney scumbags.

You guys are right.

 

[kbuzz1]

Holy ******* ****. $175.

And that's at the low end of potential return that we've seen

 

[kbuzz1]

You guys are right.

And on that note, we will allow you a one time pass to get windows with your voodoos...BUT, you have to barter the deal without a monetary exchange. Straight up beer for windows.

 

[OneDropSoup]

Okay, I found the comment Jay made a few weeks ago that gave me a little more perspective on this. It was in response to the dude who'd closed a sale on a set of the BRCIV for $400.

"As someone who makes a living buying and selling online, I see this as an opportunity. As a craft beer fan, I see this as an opportunity for someone who makes a living buying and selling online. It doesn't upset me and I understand that someone out there is willing to pay more than me for the chance to try some awesome beer."

 

[OneDropSoup]

And on that note, we will allow you a one time pass to get windows with your voodoos...BUT, you have to barter the deal without a monetary exchange. Straight up beer for windows.

No Voodoos here. I'm the dude barflybastard referred to who's trying to win at scratch-offs.

 

[kbuzz1]

Okay, I found the comment Jay made a few weeks ago that gave me a little more perspective on this. It was in response to the dude who'd closed a sale on a set of the BRCIV for $400.

"As someone who makes a living buying and selling online, I see this as an opportunity. As a craft beer fan, I see this as an opportunity for someone who makes a living buying and selling online. It doesn't upset me and I understand that someone out there is willing to pay more than me for the chance to try some awesome beer."

Sorry but doesn't make it any better in my view. Knowing the brewer's very clear stance on this practice, I think he should pursue other "opportunities". Else, he's basically just giving the community the middle finger, right? Breweries are part of this community too? It is whatever it is if he makes that decision...but I wouldn't call this guy a craft beer supporter if his desire to make money trumps all else.