People that won't drink your beer...

[jgln]

I won't eat or drink stuff from people I know who have dirty kitchens, bad habits like not washing their hands, think nothing of eating something they dropped on the floor, scratch their ass while they are cooking a meal, prepare a salad in a dirty sink (in a sink at all for that matter), stuff like that. Could this be a possibility? Just sayin.

True story: I knew this guy for many years, one day for some reason we went over his house. The kitchen was crawling with roaches dead and alive. Needless to say I made sure I NEVER ate anything he or his wife made, EVER.

Not saying you got roaches, just sayin' some people don't see themselves in the same light others may. I am very conscious of this myself so don't get me wrong. I never push someone to try something I made, I might not know the real reason why they say no and don't want to put them in an awkward situation.

 

[el_caro]

Unfortunately "homebrew" conjures up some negative thoughts for the vast majority of people. For many years a lot of inexperience home-brewers have been turning out some pretty damn ordinary brews and as a result the whole brand has been tarnished.
We are now seeing a new breed of home-brewer (aka Craft-beer brewers) who are using the internet to learn more about the science of brewing who are churning out some pretty spectacular beer. I think it will take years before much of the stigma is removed from homebrew and it becomes more widely accepted. Unfortunately there will always be cowboys around giving the hobby a bad name. I know a bloke who only brews $7 Homebrand extract kits using sugar as an adjunct, no temperature control, questionable sanitation and the beer tastes like sh%t. He loves it and cannot get enough and offers it to everyone. For everyone you win over he loses 10.
I do think that modern home brewers are becoming ever increasingly addicted to hops and high alcohol brews and that can turn off people who rarely drink any beers above about 5% ABV and that have relatively low hop footprints.
I think it is best to try and win them over with mildly hopped beers like extract kit beers and then if you get their confidence feed them some hard drugs.
In the meantime RDWHAHB .

 

[Brew_4iT]

Well this seems to be the stipulation for me, and ironically my brother the alcoholic (who loves my beer now) told me this point blank; "you just started this past year there is no way you can make a beer as good as ______ ."

I try to explain to him that I have been researching my ass off first and foremost months ahead of time before even my first batch. Granted I first learned from Craig on youtube and have since revised many of my brewing habits since joining this site and moving away from coopers cans (which aren't all that bad really love their stout actually).

Then when I try to explain to people my processes I loose them after "primary fermentation" they yawn and tune me out LOL.. frustrating to say the least!

 

[subliminalurge]

Then when I try to explain to people my processes I loose them after "primary fermentation" they yawn and tune me out LOL.. frustrating to say the least!

Dude. What would your reaction be if your grandma tried to tell you the nitty gritty detail of the scarf she's knitting, and everything that's involved with doing it?

People have their own things on their mind. It's a little bit arrogant to expect them to be fascinated by a subject just because it fascinates you.

Brew for yourself. Share with those who enjoy it. As for everyone else, get over it.

 

[BradleyBrew]

Just buy a commercial 12 pack and leave the labels on... Bottle your brew in it. Ask them if they would like a beer... when they say yes, pull the commercial bottle out and pour them a nice glass of your homebrew.. after they take a few sips ask them if it's good.. When they say yes then tell them it is your homebrew !

 

[Skarekrough]

My wife and I have a few gatherings at our house every year. It's a few couples, a few kids, etc.

The guys tend to get in the door and will immediately make a beeline for the keezer. Some of them homebrew, some don't. But all of them are enthusiastic and appreciative of having it available.

Now some of the women don't drink beer, which is fine. But the majority of them, sans one, just won't touch it.

My wife seems to think it's a perceptional issue. I've tended to favor heavy beers for my own consumption so they come to the conclusion that everything I make is going to be heavy, a quality they don't especially enjoy.

I've gone out of my way to make beers available that aren't heavy, and are actually quite light, but the perception still remains.

The "sans one" I was talking about is a major sport. It's rare she doesn't head down to the keezer and get a sampling of everything on tap!

 

[jfr1111]

I'm lucky to have family members who are not really beer drinkers, but will try homebrew because they are curious. I even had an uncle of my girlfriend who is 70 years old tell me the porter I brewed was better than the Labatt porter of his youth: no sheet, they still sell the stuff and it is bad. But as soon as I poured a glass for myself, he wanted one. I didn't have to press him to try it and I wouldn't do it. That's the trick: you offer your beer and if they don't want one, they don't want one.

On the other hand, I try to always have something yellow, light, fizzy and NON-CLOUDY for the guests to drink to increase my chances. You gotta do your part if you want people to try your beer ! Clarity is especially important. Even my friends who are into craft beers are not all that thrilled to be served a cloudy pint of something that calls for clarity. It's a fact that we eat and drink with our eyes.

 

[johnsopi]

Never had offered anyone my beer.

 

[badmajon]

I wouldn't get that pissed off. Here's the truth. Many people don't like beer. I didn't like it when I was a teenager, and I really didn't even drink it until well into my 20s.

Most people simply drink "beer" (BMC etc) because that is what people who they identify with drink... i.e., monkey see monkey do.

If it gets them kinda buzzed and nobody makes fun of them, then it's done its job.

I'm aging a porter for my mother in law when she comes to visit (it'll be two months old then, perfect!) not because I want to show off, but because she really liked the last porter I made. So only give homebrew to people who like beer. Don't just make it and expect people to appreciate it, because most people don't like beer.

 

[ozzy1038]

Kind of a rant.. I've been brewing beer for awhile now (not nearly as long as some people) and put a lot of time and effort into each of my batches. But immediately without even trying a sip most people are turned off like some drunken ugly chick on prom night hitting on them, some people might try it.. but they already have that preconceived notion that it's sub par to mainstream beer. I hate that feeling when people look at my beer as though it is a foreign substance of unknown origin because it's not commercial and having a flashy label covering most of the product.

It really seems this day in age most people respond to cosmetics over aesthetics and craftsmanship.

I brewed "Cream O' 3 grains" for my dad and my girlfriends mom that are bmc drinkers. They didn't want nothing' of it..

I brewed a great pumpkin ale using 4 different types of squash and because of a little sediment in it even though it is translucent and nearly transparent (which is tough for a pumpkin ale I used a whirfloc tablet irish moss and cold crashed for awhile).... still because of a little sediment my friends wife wont touch it.

All of this makes me want to focus most my attention of presentation than overall quality; filtration, filtration, whirlfloc, irish moss, gelatin, filtration, and screw the ingredients. I'll just make an IPA with 42 ibu's like Harpoon instead of my 88 IBU IPA with cascade and citra dryhopped.

Just to note I do like Harpoon IPA's but highly conservative on the IBU end of an IPA.

I say F 'EM! I brew for me first others second. I dont expect most people to like them since most people dont like beer that has any taste.

 

[Brew_4iT]

Dude. What would your reaction be if your grandma tried to tell you the nitty gritty detail of the scarf she's knitting, and everything that's involved with doing it?

People have their own things on their mind. It's a little bit arrogant to expect them to be fascinated by a subject just because it fascinates you.

Brew for yourself. Share with those who enjoy it. As for everyone else, get over it.

I understand the logic, but in this case its more like a group of people that like hand mittens bought from a store. You knit your own that may not look as nice first glance, but do a better job at keeping you warm. You try to explain to them why your hand made mittens do better at keeping their hands warm but they can't get over the look of it and that dictates their mode of reason.

I mean I brewed a great cream of 3 grain bmc type beer, and even though it was golden clear and tasty (even for me) they seem to trust more in their commercial brand.

I did do a strawberry blonde and my girlfriend who hates beer ended up loving it, she wants it a little more backsweetened next time though

 

[BasementBrewmistress]

Feeling the OPs pain.

We're always catching flak from the family for "brewing so much beer" -- I'm talking an average of one 5 gal batch every two weeks!! I understand the ones that don't drink alcohol, but it irritates me when it's someone who boozes up on wine and/or cheap ass BMC. Grrrrrrr. AND it's a hell of a lot cheaper than some of my previous "obsessions".

I like to make brews others will enjoy. Thank goodness my little sister and her SO love craft beer. If it wasn't for their enthusiasm. We'd have probably brewed our little APA and quit then and there. So what if the damn thing's got sediment in the bottle? Sure as hell beats thin-as-shiat light lager in the clear bottle....

/rant

 

[Rob_]

It's kind of like food. I refuse to tell people what's in my Sunday dinner until after they have eaten. You will always get buttheads that their momma didn't raise them right.

Eventually you will get to a point where people will trust your pallet and when you say hey try this, they will.

 

[CoalCreekBeer]

I think this is part of the problem. We all know someone who brewed a Mr.Beer kit once and called it homebrew and shared it with their friends. Those friends are the people we run into that "don't like homebrew". I guess my friends are generally polite, if they haven't tried my beer they'll give it a try even if they have that homebrew stigma from a previous experience. Then they say, "wow, this actually tastes good". There's also those that brewed a batch once in college or whatever and just assumed that because they made it themselves and followed some crappy instructions, that must be as good as homemade beer can be.

This was what I was going to say pretty much exactly. I was that guy who tried a friends "Mr. Beer" and it was awful, stayed away from home brew for a long time because of that original experience.

 

[Airborneguy]

And maybe some stems from jealousy I don't know?.

Your logic escapes me. I'd say this whole thread is more a result of your snobbery than their jealousy.

 

[Airborneguy]

I know a bloke who only brews $7 Homebrand extract kits using sugar as an adjunct, no temperature control, questionable sanitation and the beer tastes like sh%t. He loves it and cannot get enough and offers it to everyone. For everyone you win over he loses 10.

The nerve of that guy for liking something you don't! Call the cops!

 

[Airborneguy]

I understand the logic, but in this case its more like a group of people that like hand mittens bought from a store. You knit your own that may not look as nice first glance, but do a better job at keeping you warm. You try to explain to them why your hand made mittens do better at keeping their hands warm but they can't get over the look of it and that dictates their mode of reason.

Again, flawed logic. Want to prove that one "hand mitten" (nice choice of analogy btw...) is better than the other? Stand outside in the cold. applying this logic to homebrew you are saying that you know what tastes better for them. That is the epitome of SNOBBERY, plain and simple. Who are you to tell someone what beer they will like better? To put it bluntly: I try to avoid people like you like the plague.

 

[Denny]

Brew for yourself. Share with those who enjoy it. As for everyone else, get over it.

 

[lou2row]

Again, flawed logic. Want to prove that one "hand mitten" (nice choice of analogy btw...) is better than the other? Stand outside in the cold. applying this logic to homebrew you are saying that you know what tastes better for them. That is the epitome of SNOBBERY, plain and simple. Who are you to tell someone what beer they will like better? To put it bluntly: I try to avoid people like you like the plague.

Your Yankees went home for the year. Get over it.

 

[Airborneguy]

I'm guessing you figured that you may as well keep up the theme of no logic in this thread, because that post made perfect sense.

 

[Brew_4iT]

Again, flawed logic. Want to prove that one "hand mitten" (nice choice of analogy btw...) is better than the other? Stand outside in the cold. applying this logic to homebrew you are saying that you know what tastes better for them. That is the epitome of SNOBBERY, plain and simple. Who are you to tell someone what beer they will like better? To put it bluntly: I try to avoid people like you like the plague.

Well by your logic then their is no point for your reason or expression because it doesn't really matter nor should hold any inclination of how others should feel or understand...right? Basically the conveyance of enlightenment by any origin by your understanding is a plague and diabolical? You should not pose your rhetoric of poorly perceived interpretations of a misread thread. You can interpret it however you like but don't go around spreading your snobbery of your own poor judgments on me or how others should feel because you just make yourself fall victim to your own unsound conceptions.

Just to note, no I don't feel as though my beer is the holy grail of beers... well some batches now and then

 

[Airborneguy]

My logic has nothing to do with your perceived perfection in your own beer. It is squarely precipitated upon your view that you know what other people should like. I dont avoid enjoyable products anymore than I run towards steaming piles of defecation. What I do keep a wary eye cocked for is people of grand snobbishness and boorish self-adulation. Your incessant use of embellished language and obscure vocabulary is further proof of that which you make plainly obvious through your posts: you sir are a snob I'd find more pleasure in a Bud procured for $1.99 from my local bodega than from the fine craft beer flowing from your taps merely because I'd enjoy the Bud sans your company.

 

[el_caro]

Basically the conveyance of enlightenment by any origin by your understanding is a plague and diabolical? You should not pose your rhetoric of poorly perceived interpretations of a misread thread.

Very well put. Now WTF does it all mean Alfie?

 

[Brew_4iT]

My logic has nothing to do with your perceived perfection in your own beer.

Then why are you trying to manifest your interpretations on a thread for other people to conceive your views and understanding....

 

[Airborneguy]

Then why are you trying to manifest your interpretations on a thread for other people to conceive your views and understanding....

While your sagacity is to be applauded, your flippant attempt at a brush-off speaks to a reluctance to accept that the words you voluntarily committed to examination earlier in this thread are open to derision.

While I find this pursuit of linguistic recreation tremendously, and increasingly, interesting, it only serves to reinforce my initial observation: you sir are a snob

 

[Airborneguy]

I must admit though, that the question for which I seek elucidation is what role the Yankees play in this highly educated battle of wit and philosophical wisdom.

 

[passedpawn]

I must admit though, that the question for which I seek elucidation is what role the Yankees play in this highly educated battle of wit and philosophical wisdom.

Turns out the Yanks won't play any role until the spring. [finally, this thread turns into something interesting]

 

[lumpher]

the funniest things i find about the arguments these 2 are using are the improper english and the misspellings

 

[Airborneguy]

the funniest things i find about the arguments these 2 are using are the improper english and the misspellings

I used a thesaurus for most of my posts. I needed some weaponry for my snob trap. I'm no scholar, my avatar just looks like one.

 

[Brew_4iT]

LOL.. I thought this thread would be dead long ago but apparently some people like to dig through crap to find chunks of spent corn to chew on.

I just find this comical now, I never used the word perfect through this entire thread or corrected misspelled words to exploit a fellow member... My rant was acknowledged and wrapped up the first 5 posts days ago, I've gotten over it... but I guess this is what you get when you feed a few dogs a bone.