Al, I am hoping that you see this. I see that you live in Evart so I thought you might be able to direct me. It looks like you are pretty active on this site, so I am posting with the hope that you or somebody in West Michigan has info. I am new to this forum, new-ish to cider making. I have made apple and I want to try pear cider. I see that you ground your own pears and I am just not ready for that much work, just yet. I am trying to find some pear cider/juice somewhere in West Michigan. In fact, I would prefer to find organic pear and apple cider and would be willing to pay more for it. Currently, I drive about 40 miles in the wrong direction to get it! I live in Whitehall, Michigan which is just North of Muskegon. My last batch came from Conklin/Coopersville area and it wasn't organic. I can get it from Lewis Farms to the North but they sell it pasteurized by the gallon. That is so expensive that it might be cheaper to buy Strongbow in bottles or cans. We have all kinds of orchards just to our North, but I am not aware of any pressing cider/juice for sale in bulk, let alone organic. Do you have any leads for me? I am willing to drive up to an hour to get some good stuff. Please let me know if you can help or if anybody reading this has any leads. This looks like a great forum for home brewers. Thanks, in advance, for any leads anybody might have.