Pale Ale

[XELA]

does anyone no a good recipe for a pale ale?

if not how is this one (from howtobrew.com)

* 3-4 lb. Pale malt extract syrup, unhopped
* 2 lb. Amber dry malt extract
* 12 AAU of bittering hops (any variety) For example, 1 oz. of 12% AA Nugget, or 1.5 oz. of 8% AA Perle
* 5 AAU of finishing hops (Cascade or other) For example, 1 oz. of 5% Cascade or 1.25 oz. of 4% Liberty
* 2 packets of dried ale yeast


should i make any changes to it or is it fine like that?

im also wondering how i might achive a "fruity finish" to it..
bit like pedigree has when you pour it into jugs an de gass it

thanks

 

[Orfy]

Not sure but I'd question any recipe that says you need two packs of dried yeast for a normal 5 gallon batch.

Also an amber malt is going to darken the wort.
As for a fruity finish then it's the yeast that does that along with a citrus taste from some hops.
Nottingham should work fine.

There's loads of IPA recipes about, just a case of searching. I bet there's some in the database.

 

[XELA]

i dno why it would be wrong, taken from howtobrew an all

so nottingham will make it slightly fruity?

 

[Orfy]

i dno why it would be wrong, taken from howtobrew an all

so nottingham will make it slightly fruity?

I'm not saying it would be wrong. It's just my initial thoughts on the recipe.


If you want to use a liquid use you can find one deal for IPA but Nottingham is just a good all rounder, cheap and easy to get.

 

[XELA]

kool, does a fruity flavour accually go with a pale ale?

im gonna have a look for IPA now, maybe just follow that then change recipe to taste once iv tasted it

im a bit confused about hops and AAU too

 

[cweston]

I think it's a good beginner's recipe. I agree about questioning the 2 packets of yeast: if it's a good dried yeast like Nottingham or Safale, one packet is perfect.

The Amber DME is in there becasue this is an extract-only recipe with no steeping grains. If you used all pale ME, which is mashed with just base 2-row, you'd get a boring beer that would probably finish too dry. The amber DME is doing for this recipe what a little steeped crystal malt would do for an extract+steep recipe.

So, if you're a beginner, yes, I'd recommend this.

If not, then I'd go with all pale ME and steep half a pound of crystal 40L.

 

[cweston]

I'm a bit confused about hops and AAU too

Weight X alpha-acid percentage = AAUs

So if one variety of hops has a higher AA%, it will take a smaller amount to achieve the same bittering level.

 

[XELA]

yea im a beginer, thanks!

ill change to nottingham,

is it just notingham ale yeast or somethin?

 

[XELA]

Weight X alpha-acid percentage = AAUs

So if one variety of hops has a higher AA%, it will take a smaller amount to achieve the same bittering level.

i think i understand.. will probly get someone else to work it out for me tho, cannot do math

 

[Orfy]

I'd trust Cweston on this one, I'm not an extract brewer.

But if you are going to do a boil for the hops then I'd think about steeping some grains instead of using the amber. But that's just me.

 

[freyguy]

Here's a recipe that I enjoy alot. It's an Amarillo Pale Ale made to show off the Amarillo hop as it's the only one used in it. I have it scaled down for a 2.5 gallon boil. If you are doing something else, let me know and I can adjust

5lbs 8oz Extra Light Dry Extract
1lb Crystal 10L
8oz Crystal 40L
1.85oz Amarillo 60min
1.85oz Amarillo 15min to 0min (Just throw in a little at a time)
1oz Amarillo Dry Hop in secondary for 2 weeks
WLP051 - California Ale V

Steep grains at 155 for 30min.
Boil for 15 min before first hop addition, then start the 60min countdown.
Ferment warm (70-74) to bring out fruity character in the yeast.

OG: 1.050
FG: 1.013
4.7% ABV
49 IBU's

 

[RoaringBrewer]

There is a recipe/ingredient forum here with tried and true pale ale recipes, clones, etc.

There is also now a recipe 'board' in the middle of the forums as well. Click on pale ale and find even more tried and true recipes...

Amazing huh?

 

[AleHole]

This is a bad ass recipe. Tastes like the real thing.

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale Clone
3 gallon boil
5 gallon Batch
target og 1.053

Yeast: White Labs WLP001 California Ale ( I used Wyeast american ale)

1LB. Crystal Malt 60L steeped at 153deg for 30 minutes
5.5 lbs. Extra light DME

.5 oz. Yakima Magnum Pellets @ 60 minutes
.5 oz. Perle pellets @ 30minutes
1 oz. Cascade pellets @ 10 minutes
2 oz. Cascade pellets @ 0 minutes

1 week primary
2 weeks secondary
2-3 weeks bottle

 

[XELA]

im not planning on steeping anything btw freyguy

i dnt think my brain will be able to cope with that just yet!

thanks for all the recipes!

and alehole, iv never had a Nevada Pale Ale, any good?

 

[Orfy]

Asda used to sell it.

 

[AleHole]

im not planning on steeping anything btw freyguy

i dnt think my brain will be able to cope with that just yet!

thanks for all the recipes!

and alehole, iv never had a Nevada Pale Ale, any good?

Thats one one my favorite beers.
As far as steeping goes if you can make tea you can steep grains. Same exact thing. Its just one big tea bag.

 

[XELA]

I'd trust Cweston on this one, I'm not an extract brewer.

But if you are going to do a boil for the hops then I'd think about steeping some grains instead of using the amber. But that's just me.

i am boiling some hops but im just following the directions from howtobrew as closly as possibe, tryin not to get confused!

Thats one one my favorite beers.
As far as steeping goes if you can make tea you can steep grains. Same exact thing. Its just one big tea bag.

but its not as simple as makin tea, id have to worry bout timing and everything wouldnt i?

 

[Orfy]

Do what your happy with.
Baby steps.

 

[RoaringBrewer]

Steeping grains is as simple as making tea.

Making Tea:
1) Put teabag into hot water
2) Let sit in the hot water for a few minute period
3) Remove and continue with sugar, lemon, milk, whatever additions

Steeping Grains:
1) Put grains into a nylon/muslin grain bag.
2) Put into water at 150-155 degrees.
3) Let sit 30 minutes in that temp range.
4) Remove and proceed with extract, hop additions, etc.

Only difference between the two is 1) you will need to fill the grain bag yourself 2) make sure you don't boil the water in which the grains sit (150-155 temp range is not that hard to hold on any stovetop or heatsource; get to that temp on high, turn down to medium and it should pretty well remain there), and 3) the time period is 30 minutes instead of 2 minutes with the tea. None of these differences require a rocket scientist to master.

Very simple and recommended to take your brewing to the next step...

EDIT: The SN Pale Ale alone should be worth the hassle of steeping grains. This is a very good beer if you haven't had one...

 

[XELA]

so i just boil the for 30 mins instead of adding extract when boiling

i think i might steep if it really makes a difference

 

[AGBrewer]

Do not boil the grains, fill your brewpot 2/3 full or so. Using your thermometer get the water temperature up to 155 degrees F. Put the steeping grains in a nylon bag and place in the water. Keeping the temperature at 155 let the grains sit for half an hour. After half an hour take the grains out of the pot and put them in your compost pile. Then bring the water to a boil and add your bittering hops and malt extract just as you would had you not steeped grains. It is a lot simpler than it sounds, try it, you'll see.

 

[XELA]

think ill just do this one and stop worrying!

5lbs 8oz Extra Light Dry Extract
1lb Crystal 10L
8oz Crystal 40L
1.85oz Amarillo 60min
1.85oz Amarillo 15min to 0min (Just throw in a little at a time)
1oz Amarillo Dry Hop in secondary for 2 weeks
WLP051 - California Ale V

Steep grains at 155 for 30min.
Boil for 15 min before first hop addition, then start the 60min countdown.
Ferment warm (70-74) to bring out fruity character in the yeast.

OG: 1.050
FG: 1.013
4.7% ABV
49 IBU's

do i steep these two?
1lb Crystal 10L
8oz Crystal 40L

i need to add someone who knows what there doin on msn

 

[Orfy]

There is an easier way to steep the grains. Holding the water at 155f 68C is a pain.

I don't have it to hand but I'm sure you can put the grain bag in cool water and just slowly raise the temp to 170F 77C then remove and continue as normal.

Some one will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[XELA]

Sorry for being stupid but could someone
Please check this for me and answer the bits in brackets

.Steep grains at 68c for 30min.
Boil the water for 15 min
(Turn off the heat?)
Start 60 min count down
Add 1.85oz Amarillo 60min
1.85oz Amarillo 15min to 0min, Just throw in a little at a time
Cool down, pour into carboy
Add WLP051 - California Ale V
1oz Amarillo Dry Hop in secondary for 2 weeks (optional? May not have secondary carboy. add in a steeping bag or on its own??)


I really need detail and easy to follow instructions, I think I may have learning problems, that or drink has killed one to many brain cells

thanks

 

[Orfy]

This may be clearer

Steep grains at 68c for 30min. (Remove the grain before boiling)
Boil the water(wort) for 15min (Leave on heat and continue to boil)
Add 1.85oz Amarillo
Boil for a further 45 minute
Add 1.85oz Amarillo in bits over the next 15mins, Just throw in a little at a time
Cool down, pour into carboy
Add WLP051 - California Ale V
1oz Amarillo Dry Hop in secondary for 2 weeks (If you add to primary after 1 week then leave in for 2 weeks and rack t a bottling bucket)

If you have a bottling bucket rack from primary to bucket after 1 week. Clean the primary then use it as a secondary.


Don't forget to add the malt extract at around 50 minutes into the boil and don't burn them.
If you are doing a partial boil then you need to obviously need to top off with water as well.

 

[RickWG]

There is an easier way to steep the grains. Holding the water at 155f 68C is a pain.

I don't have it to hand but I'm sure you can put the grain bag in cool water and just slowly raise the temp to 170F 77C then remove and continue as normal.

Some one will correct me if I'm wrong.

This is the way Ballast Point/homebrewstore in the area says to do it. I found it really easy last time I did it.

 

[XELA]

yes thats awesome, thanks orfy!

may you stay forever young!
lol, gotta love bob dylan lyrics

thanks everyone!
.

 

[Jim Karr]

XELA, my signature pale ale recipe is very, very easy.

You may want to try this next time:

6.6 # Munton's Light LME
Start with 2 1/2 gallons (US) of water
Bring to boil, then shut off heat.
Add LME, Stirring like a madman all the time
At this point, add 1 oz of Centennial pellet hops
Resume heat. Bring back to boil.
After boiling 20 minutes or so, add 1/4 oz of Chinook pellet hops
Boil for 15 to 20 minutes more, add 1/4 oz of Chinook pellet hops and turn off heat.

Follow previous instructions on chilling, (after adding enough additional cold water to make a total of five gallons), then at 80 degrees F, pitch a packet of Munton's dry yeast. This is the one in the tan packet.


Let ferment, bottle with priming sugar, condition in bottle. Drink.

Good luck!

 

[XELA]

jim karr (why the name of a comedian lol)

thanks for the recipe, an ill certainly try it at some point!

cheers
.

 

[XELA]

oh yea, bout the Amarillo recipe

"I have it scaled down for a 2.5 gallon boil."

does this mean its enuf to make a 2.5 gal batch ? im confused

id prefer 5 gal if possible

 

[RoaringBrewer]

Steeping Grains:
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2) make sure you don't boil the water in which the grains sit (150-155 temp range is not that hard to hold on any stovetop or heatsource; get to that temp on high, turn down to medium and it should pretty well remain there)

Do not boil the grains. Steep at 150-155...