Oxidized beer?

[VikeMan]

Any cage or bag ideas for dry hopping in a glass carboy? I have some fine mesh bags I've used in the past that would work... I just fear that the hops are not getting the proper exposure from bags or cages vs loose

Well, I don't know of any cages that will fit into a carboy. Bags can, though they are a PITA to put in and worse to take out. (Have to cut the bag open and spill the contents (right before cleaning).)

It's true that if a cage/bag is tightly packed (by hops that have absorbed wort), that will effectively reduce contact. But if the hops remain more or less loose in the cage/bag, I don't think the cage/bag itself really hurts much.

 

[alexipas]

Update,
I went with a urine drainage bag. It feels like it was designed for this purpose. It even has a hose clamp built on the bottom hose! I'm excited for cold crash day!!!

 

[marc1]

Update,
I went with a urine drainage bag. It feels like it was designed for this purpose. It even has a hose clamp built on the bottom hose! I'm excited for cold crash day!!!

Just don't use that carboy handle while it's full.

 

[alexipas]

Just don't use that carboy handle while it's full.

Uh oh.....dare I say I already have??!! Are they only for only empty ones?

 

[VikeMan]

Uh oh.....dare I say I already have??!! Are they only for only empty ones?

IMO they are not even really safe for empty ones. A Brew Hauler type carrier is the way to go, IMO.

 

[marc1]

Milk crates work well, too.

 

[deuc224]

no lie I did a NEIPA and it was dull orange and green tint but because I used a hop tea instead of dry hopping, damn its really good but it isnt the prettiest beer lol.

 

[BucksIPA]

What was your dry hoping technique? Are you introducing oxygen at this stage? Find yourself a tube type filter that fits through the carboy top.

Try a really large amount of hops at wirlpool/hopstand and something like a hop extract after fermentation. You can make up alot of the taste your after initially, put in way more than you think in the hop stand. Commercial brewers are putting a a large amount in these stands. Really have to filter out the veg particles before fermentation without removing aromas/oils

With more hop content, there is alot more that can become oxidized, could be from any process. How is your keg cleaning process?

I dont think you need to cold crash this style of beer, you may have better luck at filtering, before and after fermentation.


You have an opportunity to look at your process and figure out how you can get the hop flavor you are looking for without oxidizing your beer. Come up with a secondary process. Luckily, you dont really have to brew beer to do these experiements, you can just use commercial bottled 12 pak as a good sample to see all the effects. Add oxygen, decarb some, cold crash with and without a mylar bag. Its pretty cheap to do.

 

[polica]

OP, we look forward to hearing how the C02 bladder works for you. To VikeMan, instead of on the counter and in the light, I suggest putting that glass of beer in a refrigerator near freezing and in the dark. You'll be waiting awhile for the color change, which was my point. Instead of studying Henry's law it might be worthwhile to revisit the Gibbs free energy equation and something called singlet oxygen, which forms from triplet oxygen in the presence of light and is a very powerful oxidant that reacts with carbon carbon double bonds and will definitely cause color changes. Cheers!

 

[Ogilthorpe2]

Update,
I went with a urine drainage bag. It feels like it was designed for this purpose. It even has a hose clamp built on the bottom hose! I'm excited for cold crash day!!!

FTR, there is a ready made device out there to accomplish the same thing....

https://www.brewhardware.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CCguardianV3

 

[VikeMan]

To VikeMan, instead of on the counter and in the light, I suggest putting that glass of beer in a refrigerator near freezing and in the dark. You'll be waiting awhile for the color change, which was my point.

I've placed open beer in the fridge before, as part of test to watch sediment drop. Overnight was plenty long enough to also see a distinct darkening.

Do you actually brew and then leave your cold, acidic, CO2 "saturated" beers exposed to air "for a few days?" If not, maybe it's not a good idea to tell people that's ok.